Single Ballot BBF Hall of Fame

[DJC]

Remove
Bonds, Barry - I had him in based on pre-roids but have decided on taking him out.

Add
Arlett, Buzz
Quinn, Jack

Add to Contributors
Dunn, Jack
Kelley, Michael Joseph
Ripken, Cal Sr.
Schoendienst, Red
Stanky, Eddie
Wrigley, William

Sorry for so many changes recently DJC.

I added Adrian Beltre to my Future Contenders list.

I removed the following from my Single Ballot Hall of Fame:

Charlie Bennett - I fell into the Charlie Bennett groupthink that has permeated this site before. I really don't see a huge case for the guy.

Vida Blue - He was one of the early non-Hall of Fame pitchers I supported, so I kept him on my ballot because I didn't want to second-guess my initial intuition. But if I don't have Orel Hershiser, Bob Welch or Milt Pappas in my Hall - which I don't - then I don't think I should have Blue in.

Changes made. No one went in or out of either Hall.

Fun fact: There are currently four players who are one vote shy of reaching 75% (Carey, Grich, Hernandez, and Torre) and five players who are one vote shy of falling below 75% (Hill, Kelley, Puckett, Rose, Wallace).

[jjpm74]

Added:

Tom Henke
Firpo Marberry

Removed:

Larry Corcoran
Bill Foster
Pete Hill
Grant Johnson
Johnny Kling
Rabbit Maranville
Jose Mendez

[Los Bravos]

Add Vida Blue and Dennis Martinez to my list.

I've been mulling them both over for a few months and I think they each pass muster.

[Herr28]

Here is what I have so far. No Negro Leaguers or contributors yet. I'll have to get on that part next. This took long enough!

Aaron, Henry
Alexander, Pete
Alomar, Roberto
Anson, Cap
Aparicio, Luis
Appling, Luke
Ashburn, Richie
Averill, Earl
Bagwell, Jeff
Baker, Frank
Bancroft, Dave
Banks, Ernie
Beckley, Jake
Bench, Johnny
Bender, Chief
Berra, Yogi
Biggio, Craig
Blyleven, Bert
Boggs, Wade
Bottomley, Jim
Boudreau, Lou
Boyer, Ken
Brett, George
Brock, Lou
Brouthers, Dan
Brown, Mordecai
Bunning, Jim
Burkett, Jesse
Campanella, Roy
Carew, Rod
Carey, Max
Carlton, Steve
Carter, Gary
Caruthers, Bob
Cepeda, Orlando
Chance, Frank
Cicotte, Eddie
Clark, Will
Clarke, Fred
Clarkson, John
Clemens, Roger
Clemente, Roberto
Cobb, Ty
Cochrane, Mickey
Collins, Eddie
Collins, Jimmy
Cone, David
Connor, Roger
Coveleski, Stan
Crawford, Sam
Cronin, Joe
Cuyler, Kiki
Dahlen, Bill
Davis, George
Dawson, Andre
Dean, Dizzy
Delahanty, Ed
Dickey, Bill
DiMaggio, Joe
Doby, Larry
Doerr, Bobby
Drysdale, Don
Duffy, Hugh
Eckersley, Dennis
Evans, Darrell
Evans, Dwight
Evers, Johnny
Ewing, Buck
Faber, Red
Feller, Bob
Fingers, Rollie
Fisk, Carlton
Flick, Elmer
Ford, Whitey
Fox, Nellie
Foxx, Jimmie
Frisch, Frankie
Galvin, Pud
Garvey, Steve
Gehrig, Lou
Gehringer, Charlie
Gibson, Bob
Glasscock, Jack
Gomez, Lefty
Gordon, Joe
Goslin, Goose
Gossage, Goose
Greenberg, Hank
Grich, Bobby
Griffith, Clark
Grimes, Burleigh
Grove, Lefty
Gwynn, Tony
Hamilton, Billy
Hartnett, Gabby
Heilmann, Harry
Henderson, Rickey
Henke, Tom
Herman, Billy
Hernandez, Keith
Hooper, Harry
Hornsby, Rogers
Hubbell, Carl
Irvin, Monte
Jackson, Joe
Jackson, Reggie
Jackson, Travis
Jenkins, Fergie
Jennings, Hughie
John, Tommy
Johnson, Walter
Joss, Addie
Kaat, Jim
Kaline, Al
Keefe, Tim
Keeler, Willie
Kelley, Joe
Kelly, King
Killebrew, Harmon
Kiner, Ralph
Koufax, Sandy
Lajoie, Napoleon
Larkin, Barry
Lazzeri, Tony
Lemon, Bob
Lombardi, Ernie
Lyons, Ted
Mantle, Mickey
Manush, Heine
Maranville, Rabbit
Marichal, Juan
Maris, Roger
Mathewson, Christy
Mathews, Eddie
Mattingly, Don
Mays, Willie
Mazeroski, Bill
McCovey, Willie
McGinnity, Joe
McGraw, John
McGriff, Fred
McGwire, Mark
McPhee, Bid
Medwick, Joe
Mize, Johnny
Molitor, Paul
Morgan, Joe
Murray, Eddie
Musial, Stan
Nettles, Graig
Newhouser, Hal
Nichols, Kid
Niekro, Phil
Oliva, Tony
O'Neill, Tip
O'Rourke, Jim
Ott, Mel
Paige, Satchel
Palmer, Jim
Perez, Tony
Perry, Gaylord
Piazza, Mike
Plank, Eddie
Puckett, Kirby
Radbourn, Charles
Raines, Tim
Randolph, Willie
Reese, Pee Wee
Rice, Jim
Rice, Sam
Ripken, Cal
Rixey, Eppa
Roberts, Robin
Robinson, Brooks
Robinson, Frank
Robinson, Jackie
Rose, Pete
Roush, Edd
Ruffing, Red
Rusie, Amos
Ruth, Babe
Ryan, Nolan
Saberhagen, Bret
Sandberg, Ryne
Santo, Ron
Schalk, Ray
Schilling, Curt
Schmidt, Mike
Schoendienst, Red
Seaver, Tom
Sewell, Joe
Simmons, Al
Simmons, Ted
Sisler, George
Slaughter, Enos
Smith, Ozzie
Snider, Duke
Spahn, Warren
Spalding, Al
Speaker, Tris
Stargell, Willie
Stephens, Vern
Stieb, Dave
Sutter, Bruce
Sutton, Don
Terry, Bill
Thompson, Sam
Tinker, Joe
Torre, Joe
Trammell, Alan
Traynor, Pie
Vance, Dazzy
Vaughan, Arky
Waddell, Rube
Wagner, Honus
Walker, Larry
Wallace, Bobby
Walsh, Ed
Waner, Paul
Ward, Mote
Welch, Mickey
Wheat, Zack
Whitaker, Lou
White, Deacon
Wilhelm, Hoyt
Williams, Billy
Williams, Ted
Willis, Vick
Winfield, Dave
Wynn, Early
Yastrzemski, carl
Young, Cy
Youngs, Ross
Yount, Robin

[DJC]

Added:

Tom Henke
Firpo Marberry

Removed:

Larry Corcoran
Bill Foster
Pete Hill
Grant Johnson
Johnny Kling
Rabbit Maranville
Jose Mendez

Add Vida Blue and Dennis Martinez to my list.

I've been mulling them both over for a few months and I think they each pass muster.

Got it.

Thanks for the ballot, Herr! That brings us up to 32.

After the latest update, four players have joined the Hall of Fame here (or rejoined, since all of them have been in before): Max Carey, Bobby Grich, Keith Hernandez, and Joe Torre. One player has dropped out: poor Pete Hill.

[Herr28]

Got it.

Thanks for the ballot, Herr! That brings us up to 32.

After the latest update, four players have joined the Hall of Fame here (or rejoined, since all of them have been in before): Max Carey, Bobby Grich, Keith Hernandez, and Joe Torre. One player has dropped out: poor Pete Hill.

Sorry it took so long! Got backed up a bit. That sounded like a laxative commercial...

Sorry to you too, Pete. My bad.

[DJC]

Sorry it took so long! Got backed up a bit. That sounded like a laxative commercial...

Sorry to you too, Pete. My bad.

No, you haven't voted on Negro Leaguers, so you don't yet have a vote either for or against Hill. In any case, no single voter can put a player in or out of the Hall here.

[Herr28]

No, you haven't voted on Negro Leaguers, so you don't yet have a vote either for or against Hill. In any case, no single voter can put a player in or out of the Hall here.

I got your PM about my idiot arse forgetting both Hubbell and Lyons! Please add them to my totals. I went back up to my list and added them to the group. I am also working on my Negro League and contributors sections. Any advice on how to tackle these numerous behind the scenes contributors? I have a good idea about the famous and/or Cardinal guys, it is just all the others that worked behind the scenes for all the other teams I am lacking in. Also, I am planning a trip to the Negro League Hall of Fame in KC this summer, so that may help, but I was wondering on the NL contributors as well. Any advice there, or is that usually omitted?

Thanks for your work putting this together! Sorry about that oversight! I spent far too long on the hitters, and kinda blew through my pitchers so I could finally get you this list!

[DJC]

I got your PM about my idiot arse forgetting both Hubbell and Lyons! Please add them to my totals. I went back up to my list and added them to the group. I am also working on my Negro League and contributors sections. Any advice on how to tackle these numerous behind the scenes contributors? I have a good idea about the famous and/or Cardinal guys, it is just all the others that worked behind the scenes for all the other teams I am lacking in. Also, I am planning a trip to the Negro League Hall of Fame in KC this summer, so that may help, but I was wondering on the NL contributors as well. Any advice there, or is that usually omitted?

Thanks for your work putting this together! Sorry about that oversight! I spent far too long on the hitters, and kinda blew through my pitchers so I could finally get you this list!

I answered your PM and will include Hubbell and Lyons. As for Negro Leaguers, my solution was simply to vote for any who had already been elected to the actual HOF, since there is little data to rank them by. Negro League contributors are included on most contributor ballots so far.

[jalbright]

I got your PM about my idiot arse forgetting both Hubbell and Lyons! Please add them to my totals. I went back up to my list and added them to the group. I am also working on my Negro League and contributors sections. Any advice on how to tackle these numerous behind the scenes contributors? I have a good idea about the famous and/or Cardinal guys, it is just all the others that worked behind the scenes for all the other teams I am lacking in. Also, I am planning a trip to the Negro League Hall of Fame in KC this summer, so that may help, but I was wondering on the NL contributors as well. Any advice there, or is that usually omitted?

Thanks for your work putting this together! Sorry about that oversight! I spent far too long on the hitters, and kinda blew through my pitchers so I could finally get you this list!

My musings thread, http://www.baseball-fever.com/showth...ight-s-musings has lots of pieces on contributors, Negro League and otherwise, and on Negro Leaguers.