Northbound stairs in.
Northbound stairs in.
After putting stairway in I noticed tressles and rivets were too big so I scaled them down.
You are doing an amazing job bk
Thanks Shaneslatts-------------scaled down the railroad ties---think the railroad scale is a lot better and put in southbound stairs.
Any definitive info on what color the train cars were?
We're lucky that in the eariest (1942) color pic of YS that we have that shows an appreciable portion of the Stadium that a train happened to be passing by when the photo was taken. The cars look to be dark green:
That's almost 20 years after OD 1923, of course, so it's not definitive.
Here are some other color pics of the old Hi-V / Lo-V train cars:
Maybe that olive green would be cool:
This is a different type of train car from a different line (Brooklyn Rapid Transit), but it's a nice burgundy color:
Last edited by SultanOfWhat; 12-18-2010 at 03:56 PM.
I keep noticing more details in the billboards:
Here is the Chiclets billboard. You can dimly see that there is additional text on the Chiclets box at the lower right:
bk, you could add the two elements with red arrows below:
There also seems to be something on the bottom of the box. You could ether go with MADE IN CANADA or:
That says PEPPERMINT FLAVOR
The train station and staircase look great. I doubt anyone has ever attempted a project of this size for a baseball stadium. It's amazing to see it come together piece by piece.
EDIT: might as well put a few other billboard items here:
The Edison Cement text should be all on one line. That might be hard, because I think the the digital version version is less elongated than the the billboard in the reference photos. I tried uppercase letters, and it does seem to match the shadowy text in the photo:
The Duke website has very literal versions of the text order in the billboard citations (case in point being the B.V.D. ad), so the "Always in the Lead" should be moved to the bottom of the Young's Hats ad, and the "Young's Hats" moved up slightly. There does not seem to be any text above the co. name in the 1923 reference pic.
Last edited by SultanOfWhat; 12-18-2010 at 05:31 PM.
Don't know if you've heard, Modo 501 is out and it seems to have some nice new features. The render engine is now faster and cleaner. It would be fun to see what could happen with your new computer, that software and your heavy duty skills on this project. Upgrades are pretty reasonably priced until the end of the year but most people aren't blessed with extra money right now.
If you haven't seen it, the Luxology site has a tour that should make you want to own it.
gurniewoo--------------I saw it just came out and will have to wait till they upgrade for me at work. Haven't checked out all the features, but am sure there's a boatload of improvements. My new computer may be delayed due to the processor on back order, but hopefully won't be delayed too long.
Sultan---would guess the train is either a red or a steely gray color----love the detail you're finding on the billboards.
Spent some time today raising the slope of the outfield grass.
Changd the circle color of the edison ad.
Before I get back to a few more billboard details, I'll bring up a few other items.
BSmile posted this letter in the pre-renovation thread. It mentions the "Meeting and Lounge Rooms" in the grand stand. Do we have an idea of where these rooms were, and are there any pictures? I have posted a few pics of the 25th anniversary reunion of the 1923 team, which took place in 1948. But I'm not sure if the location (which was not specified in the images) was Yankee Stadium. I'll post those pics later.
Here's the letter:
Here's an item that has sort of slipped through the cracks, even though we did discuss it a few months ago. The pic below is a zoom of the main 1923 OD aerial pic. The red arrow indicates the banner along the first base side, starting just on the other side of the column across from the SEC 7 number on the facing of the mezzanine. I thought it might have been a Let White build it of CONCRETE sign, one of which was indeed hung on the mezzanine during construction, but the aspect ratio and length are off.
Here are the pics of the White sign. I'm not sure of the widths between columns are the same for the two areas, but in any event, the White sign looks to be too long and narrow to be the sign/banner we see hung on OD 1923:
So if it's not a White sign, what is it? After looking through pictures, here is one candidate. In this pic of 1925 OD, there is only one thing hung in the entire Stadium, as far as I can see (including three other pics that together show almost the entire grandstand). No bunting, no other signs or banners. Just a Bronx Board of Trade banner:
Why would Jacob Ruppert see to it that such a banner was hung in the Stadium? Well, not surprisingly, he owned stock in the Bronx Board of Trade, and apparently felt it was worth promoting. The text below is from an ebay sale of an actual stock certificate; see the note underlined in red:
I'm not sure what the Bronx Board of Trade did, but Ruppert did own stock in it, and saw that a banner promoting it adorned the facing of the mezzanine, when nothing else was hung. So maybe another such banner (probably bearing reverse coloration of white letters on a dark background) is what we see in the 1923 OD aerial pic.
In the pic below, the red line indicates where the mystery banner is hung in the 1923 OD pic:
Last edited by SultanOfWhat; 12-19-2010 at 06:10 PM.
Sultan----could the lounge and meeting rooms be the club level?
Know it may be hard to see, but have added a slope to the field---still tweaking it a bit.
Here are the pics I have that show the field grade. The first one (and the next two zooms) show a nice side view of the rise in the ground level towards the RF bleacher fence. This pic seems to show the wooden framing for the cinder track, which has yet to be laid down.
Other pics that show the field grade:
There was also a pronounced upslope to the LF bleachers:
Last edited by SultanOfWhat; 12-21-2010 at 10:01 PM.
Thanks Sultan--will try and get that sharp bend in the outfied. Starting to lay in the neighborhood.
Photobucket is having problems, so I can only post an 800 pix view of this image. It shows the slope of ground in a portion of LF:
I'm still trying to find a more definitive pic of the southbound staircase from the train station.
I think the northbound staircase is a bit "busy" design-wise, compared to the reference pics (one of which and two zooms are added, below). The pic of fans descending the stairs on OD 1923 shows 3 of the cross-bar sign elements, while the model has 5. The digital model also has 5 horizontal segments and 4 diagonal segments. The actual staircase was probably simpler. It's hard to tell if there was a horizontal segment extended outward from the existing platform level, or if the first descending segment was just tacked on to the platform. In any event, it seems that there should be no more than 3 horizontal and 3 diagonal segments to the staircase. If there was no initial horizontal segment at the top, there may have been two horizontal and 3 diagonal segments in the staircase (see 3rd pic below).
Here is another pic (the April 22, 1923 image) that shows the northbound staircase. The second zoom seems to show a fairly simple structure. It's hard to tell, but the first descending segment might be attached directly to the platform:
Last edited by SultanOfWhat; 12-22-2010 at 12:08 AM.
Sultan--took a measurement of the outfield slope from your last post and it was about 7 degrees. My slope is actually about 9 degrees--am gonna keep it a little steeper so it will show better in the renderings. Will fix those sign bars on the stairways----wanna check one image posted a liitle while ago for the stairway configurations.
Simplified the northbound stairs--southbound next. Reworked the field slope, but hard to see. May need toadjust the grass image map to show it better.
Philmore advised me that the hotel commodore colors were probably blu and orange so I've changed it up.
It's a beautiful day in the neighborhood.
the neighborhood the neighborhood.
Looks like bk's GM car broke down!
BTW, I think the Hotel Commodore looks better in dark blue, so if you have a tip to that effect, so much the better.
bk, if you are starting to create the neighborhood, don't forget the:
On the Brill ad (which has the text get the habit! go to I think the red arrow shows the descending part of a script "g", the yellow arrow the ascending part of a lowercase "b", and the purple arrow points to the "go to".
The train staircases look excellent, and the neighborhood is shaping up nicely.
It's too bad that this pic doesn't show a bit more to the right, or we would have more staircase info. Still, the second pic shows what might be two kiosks near the CF bleacher entrance. Of course, they might be something else entirely:
A view of the houses just across the street on OD 1923:
Last edited by SultanOfWhat; 12-22-2010 at 05:25 PM.