It looks like something is missing........
It looks like something is missing........
Well, there are plenty of differences, although they are all big, spooky Victorian houses:
Maybe the Addams Family front door would work for the Victorians in the 3D model, as we don't really have a good photo reference for front doors:
Last edited by SultanOfWhat; 02-23-2012 at 02:25 PM.
If you really want to keep doing neighborhood renders, the neighborhood around the PG (not saying go after the PG again because that place's geometry is mind-boggling) is mostly intact and was really busy circa 1923.
Not to sound like a know it all, but technically, there is no architectural style known as "Victorian". "Victorian" refers to the time period of construction, but not the particular style. The Boy Scout house, the Simpson Mansion, and the Addams Family houses are all examples of French Second Empire architecture. They all share the same basic Mansard roof style, and the Boy Scout house even has a tower, another common trait. The Munster's house is closer to a Queen Anne or Shingle style. It is actually on the Universal lot in California, on the same street where they film Desperate Housewives now, but it has been heavily altered.
Swoboda4----don't know what all you guys do for a living, but by chance, are you an architect or an engineer? Whatever style, this cas is really looking scary! Still more to do to it.
Looking to wrap this up this weekend and move on to that building behind the Beech Nut building.
Why is that house such a gloomy grey? The quoins on the corners suggest to me that it's likely a masonry structure, so a red brick might be more apt than the weathered wood look.
It's not still standing, is it?
The closeups of the building suggest narrow wooden boards (two images are below). In addition, quoins were often used simply as a decorative element, and were often made of wood, even in the mid-19th century.
In this closeup, it appears that a few of the wooden boards are warping and coming loose:
This structure (which was probably constructed as an elaborate private home, and which was used as the Bronx HQ of the Boy Scouts of America in the 1920s) was gone a few years after the reference photos were taken. By July 1930, the area was cleared to allow the construction of the Bronx County courthouse to begin:
We already know the contents of F.C. Lane's article for the May 1923 edition of Baseball magazine, as his article, "New York's World-Beating New Stadium" was also published in The Literary Digest on April 28, 1923. The article in the latter seems to be complete, but it would be nice to see the version in Baseball, as it might offer some additional content. Unfortunately, vintage copies of Baseball magazine are a lot more expensive than those of The Literary Digest. A current auction from Legendary Auctions offers the May 1923 issue as part of a set. Here is the cover:
Probably not a good idea to take the exact seat color (or steel column color) on that cover image literally, as the limitations of the 1923 printing process must be considered. Still, the magazine graphics department chose a green-yellow color for the seats, which is generally the color currently in the model. Also, we have that darkish green-yellow from the surviving seats, which is a direct reference.
Legendary Auctions listing:
There is a straight-back Yankee Stadium seat also being auctioned at Legendary that has been re-painted in an interesting color. The shade seems pretty chose to the surviving paint undercoat on vintage seats (although the original paint seems to be more of a vivid green-yellow).
Here is the seat:
Here is the seat next to original paint examples:
Last edited by SultanOfWhat; 02-25-2012 at 01:59 PM.
A photo from 1923 (that was the only year Frank Chance managed the Red Sox) that was probably taken on opening day. Once again, the little Kelly boy is seen at the dugout entrance:
Found out the identity of the building that we've been calling the "Old House on 159th Street":
Now, did I use super-vision to decipher those dim letters? No, I realized that the NYPL photos often have captions on the back!:
Once you know what to expect, it's easy to go back to the same ambiguous or indecipherable text and confirm that it says what it's supposed to (same deal with the Beech-Nut Sliced Bacon ad on the side of the apartment building).
BTW, used Sylfaen bold for the text. Looks pretty close.
Here's a connection between the Pastime A.C. and today's marathon:
Last edited by SultanOfWhat; 02-26-2012 at 02:50 PM.
JE---am open to suggestion on the color of Boy Scout house---didn't go with red or brown cause BxW would've probably have been much darker.
Sultan--think that seat color is pretty close to the Inverness color that YS1923 matched to his seat--will sample your image color and compare.
Atletic club well underway.
That color looks real good. In general, most houses (meaning their primary surfaces, not the tiles or brick chimneys, etc.) should be white, brown, cream or gray. Red should be used sparingly. When we see a house like the Boy Scouts HQ that appears somewhat dark, brown or gray is probably best.
Last edited by SultanOfWhat; 02-26-2012 at 02:49 PM.
Interesting---just noticed that seat metal is unpainted!
Last edited by SultanOfWhat; 02-26-2012 at 04:29 PM.
Will put building name in, but think there's more to this building in yjr back.
Seat that Sultan posted I think confirms that we're pretty close on the seat color.
Bouncing about a bit----Back to lots 1-4 to refine buildings--good thing about re doing sh!t is you find details you may have forgotten---notice that alien landing pad in Hans Siegel park.
More evidence that F.C. Lane's description of Yankee Stadium published in Baseball magazine from May 1923 was based on a visit well before OD 1923 (in addition to other info and images posted earlier) includes the image below. The cover of the May 1923 edition uses an illustration based on the photo below at right. The shed, barrels, ladder, etc. have been removed in the illustration, but the men (those that were retained in the illustration) and certain other features are identical. The photo is from mid-March 1923. This matches the date of the other photo from the article inside the magazine. The fact that baseball was HQ'ed in Manhattan (and could have easily gotten a current photo at any time) means that the Mid-march date of these photos indicates that Lane saw the Stadium about mid-March, and went to press with the May issue shortly thereafter.
Here is the image inside the magazine:
Last edited by SultanOfWhat; 02-28-2012 at 09:27 PM.
I like when two elements of this project unexpectedly converge. Here is an image of Jacob Ruppert's house on the corner of East 93rd street. Right across the street: a Beech-Nut Sliced Bacon ad.
Don't know why, but really like seeing old billboards!
Last night asked Sultan for reference for the roads in Fritz Spiegel Park---5 mins. later I got this image, which reminded me of something---could it be? That mysterious rectangular shape---could it have been an alien landing platform---could the roads in the park have been a map to galactic travelers? Always wondered how stadium was built in only 10 months. I know this may be a stretch, but maybe Babe Ruth was an extra-terrestrial.
Anyway, built the roads!
Latest neighborhood behind YS---brought in Boy Scout House.