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11-06-2009, 01:08 PM
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RIP Tom Tresh. Detroiter. Chippewa. Yankee. Good man. RIP George Kell. Batting Champ. Champ Broadcaster. HOFer. Good man. RIP Mark Fidrych. The first player I actively followed. Pigskin Fever, though, lives. http://www.pigskin-fever.com/ Come help make it as good as its sister site. 
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#27
11-06-2009, 01:12 PM
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Roy doesnt know anything about sports apparently.
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11-06-2009, 01:33 PM
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RIP Tom Tresh. Detroiter. Chippewa. Yankee. Good man. RIP George Kell. Batting Champ. Champ Broadcaster. HOFer. Good man. RIP Mark Fidrych. The first player I actively followed. Pigskin Fever, though, lives. http://www.pigskin-fever.com/ Come help make it as good as its sister site.
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11-06-2009, 01:58 PM
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I repeat: Real Madrid
30 La Liga titles, 17 Copa del Reys, 9 UEFA Champions League titles, 8 Supercopa's, 2 UEFA Cups.
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11-06-2009, 02:01 PM
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giambi clemens rodriguez, pettite and who knows how many more and I dont know anything about sports?
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11-06-2009, 02:02 PM
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I was responding to the "point" that every city has yankee fans yes those are truly frontrunners it is is easy to follow if you read the thread especially post #21
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#32
11-06-2009, 02:04 PM
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you could have put the yankees in that same category until they became the spendkees in 2009
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#33
11-06-2009, 08:07 PM
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Roy was using the Fighting Irish and Cowboys as past examples of fans of winning franchises "knowing it" and not being afraid to let others know it too. You could have filled in the Celtics, Lakers, UCLA Bruins, Tar Heels, KU Wildcats, Canadians, Cardinals, Packers, Steelers, Cornhuskers, etc. etc. etc. into that same idea. He never gave any impression that he thought the Cowboys or Irish were currently dominant.
The big picture is - to the victors go the spoils (and bragging rights). Fair or not, that is the case for the Yankees, Celtics, or any other perenial winners. Most of us would brag if our teams were the "Yankees" or "Celtics" too. Nobody likes a winner, unless you are the winner!
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11-06-2009, 08:38 PM
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And who here gives a rats-butt about Real Madrid????? They need to learn to play a sport where you can use ALL your limbs. 
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I AM SO THANKFULL FOR BEING BORN IN NEW YORK AND FOR BEING A FAN OF ALL NEW YORK SPORTS TEAMS
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11-06-2009, 10:23 PM
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But it seems it would be easier to dominate with only two leagues and only 6 teams in both leagues. Correct me if wrong. Central 6 teams Pacific 6 teams World Series 7 games True the Yanks did lots of winning with the 8 team AL and NL before the expansion, but then also playoffs on the road to getting to the WS. Certainly more wins in less years than the Yanks and a much higher yearly winning percentage, thats one way to look at it. The other way, Yanks 40 pennants and 27 World Series.
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#36
11-06-2009, 11:06 PM
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a yankee fan from the Bronx is one thing a yankee fan who happens to live in say ohio, and disregards the indians and reds but roots for the yankees because they are a premier franchise is what I was refering to the old school cowboys and notre dame fans were typical of this example of front running fans who really have no connection to the team/school a good example is an old friend who moved from dallas to california when he was like 8-9, hardly a knowledgable sports fan when the cowbiys started to become america's team he was all over them, could not talk enough about them i asked him why and he said "I am from texas" so I considered the next question carefully and said why do you root for the san francisco giants and not the texas rangers or houston astros because they are from texas too and you said the reason you are a big cowboys fan is you are from texas and not becasue they are a glamour team he said "that is different" the only difference i see is the cowboys were big winners the astros and rangers were not so to be back to square 1 I have no problem with yankee fans FROM NEW YORK or with a connection to the team athough I do laugh at the we are great and we dont care how we win (or outspend everyone by 80-120 million) I do have "problems" with front running fans who have no connection to the team they are trying to jump onto and have no geographical connection or other connection other than trying to attach themselves to a winner yankees, cowboys, notre dame, celtics etc have always been prime examples of teams that create front running fans in other cities it may be true they have fans in many cities but that is not cause the teams are great, it is because these type of fans are weak individuals trying to attach themselves to something successful that was my original point back around post 22
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11-06-2009, 11:13 PM
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Sorry, misinterpreted the original post.
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#38
11-06-2009, 11:15 PM
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I would gladly take support, just in this case it was not what i was referring to
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11-07-2009, 02:13 AM
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11-07-2009, 05:37 AM
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Basketball has slipped, its interest is definetely down since the days of Magic, Bird, Michael, etc. But at least they could use their hands.
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11-07-2009, 07:05 AM
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Anyway, I think ratings have been pretty stable since the inevitable drop after Jordan "retired" in 1998. I could be wrong. Either way the NBA still gets a lot better ratings in the U.S. than soccer. Do we have any reason to believe that BBF has a disproportionate soccer fan : NBA fan ratio? Demographicaly speaking, I don't see why that would be the case.
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11-07-2009, 07:10 AM
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But I have to admit - I have been an avid Steelers, Tar Heel, and Celtic fan since childhood. With no NBA team, I loved the Celtics because I loved Bird. My enormous hatred for Duke sparked an obsession with Carolina, and when STL. did not have a NFL team, I rooted for the Steelers. But before anybody can call me a bandwagon fan - they were horrible when I started following them in the mid 80's. I am also terribly loyal, so I keep liking these 3 teams regardless of their record each year. That separates me from most of the fans you are referring too. I can guarantee that 50 years from know, I will stil be rooting for these teams. There are some teams I root for over others because there may be a player I root for, but when they leave, I am completely indifferent on that team. I bet most are like that.
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11-07-2009, 08:07 AM
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Throw in Yankees Mouthpiece Suzann Waldman coming from a family of Yankee fans, growing up in the Boston area. (Now that's really traitorous). If these people want to be front-runners and traitors to their local teams that's their business. The Yankees do have some support outside of New York, but most people still support their local team - and despite getting some fan suport nationwide, the Yankees are also the most hated team in baseball and all of sports as well. Philly-brownsfan P.S.: To dabigyankeeman: Learn how to spell Thankful will 'Ya. (One L, Not 2). Last edited by Philly-brownsfan; 11-07-2009 at 08:21 AM.
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11-07-2009, 08:17 AM
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It's interesting that Charlie Weiss, coach of elitest Notre Dame, has been up in the broadcast booth during Yankees games with Michael Kay et al. Kay also had him on a separate interview show on YES. He is an unabashed Yankees fan. Elitest university football coach being a fan of an elitest baseball organization - Not Surprising In The Least.
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11-07-2009, 08:34 AM
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And nobody really cares about spelling on the net. Spelling is antiquated. Anyway, i am very thankfullllllllll that i am a Yankee fan.
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11-07-2009, 09:08 AM
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While the Reds would never replace the local Giants as my top team, having a young catcher who hit .275 with 15 HR in that year with every starter hitting at least .271. except the SS, it was a very good hitting team in a horrible offensive year. I followed them in 1969 and more becasue of Bench's explosive year in 1970 really started liking htem, who knew in 1968 when I started liking them they would be such a power in the 1970s. My friends accused me of being a front runner. And all I could do was give my explanation of how and why I started liking them. It also helped that I met Joe Morgan in 1975 and Johnny Bench in 1976. They are still one of my favorite teams (the 70s reds) and when I choose to play a Strat-O-Matic tourney / league / game my top two Reds choices are not 1975 and 1976, but 1970 and 1977 for the great offense and awesome power cards (1970 bench, 1970 Perez, 1977 Foster).
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11-07-2009, 09:20 AM
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11-07-2009, 10:22 AM
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There's a certain lack of imagination in defining and measuring "greatness" simply in terms of percentage of championships won over certain time periods, and such.
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11-07-2009, 12:24 PM
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The joy of owning a large collection of Yankees baseball cards is priceless, to have cards of all these guys is so fantastic, and gee, the Yankee cards are more expensive than other teams cards, even for commons. I wonder why?
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11-07-2009, 12:30 PM
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