2009 Yankees one of the best teams ever?

[SHOELESSJOE3]

Originally Posted by Paul Wendt

Does winning one pennant in seven seasons 1929-1935 "take anything away" from the greatness of the Gehrig Yankees?


138-114,
according to wikipedia, "Interleague Play" (section 2.1)

The five-year average is now 143-109, or
10.2 wins, 7.8 losses for each AL team,
6.8 wins, 8.8 losses for each NL team.

Don't know if thats in reference to my earlier post, post #48. My post # 48 was in reference to another post that stated the Yankees did not even win the pennant even though they went the 1931 season with out being shut out.
My point was, even though they won only one WS in that time I still consider them one of the greatest Yankee teams, not the best but among the best, or greatest.

The teams of 1930-31-32 were power house teams near the top in team batting, in two of those seasons scoring 1067 runs and 1065 runs.
They got beat by some great Athletic teams, better than the Yanks overall, those Athletic teams were some of the best in the history of the game.

[Badge714]

Originally Posted by SHOELESSJOE3

I believe what the poster meant was they went the equivalent of two 154 game seasons, 308 games without being shut out.
You are correct, in seasons it was only one season without being shut out.

Did not even win the pennant you say, this takes nothing away from the greatness of those Yankee teams in the early 1930s. In 1931 they were beat out by one the great teams from the late 1920s-early 1930s, Philadelphia Athletics who won 107 game in 1931.

You are correct sir! Those 308 games without being shut out were the equivalent of two full seasons. It would be interesting to know if any other team approached this. The same pitcher shut them out on both ends of the streak - Lefty Grove.

[RyanExpress30]

Of the last 40 years . . .

1) '98 Yanks
2/3) '75/'76 Reds
4) '70 Orioles
5) '86 Mets
6) '84 Tiggers
7) '09 Yanks
8/9) '77/'78 Yanks
10) '05 White Sox

[bob]

Originally Posted by RyanExpress30

Of the last 40 years . . .

10) '05 White Sox

Interesting choice. I went back and had a look at that team and their pitching was fantastic but their hitting was poor. For me a really great team needs both.

[RyanExpress30]

Originally Posted by bob

Interesting choice. I went back and had a look at that team and their pitching was fantastic but their hitting was poor. For me a really great team needs both.

That team really gelled at the end . . . 11-1 postseason run - a sign of a great team for me . . . not to mention a 99 win regular season in a tough American League . . .

[Sultan_1895-1948]

Originally Posted by Blackout

1-there is NOT a salary cap. any team can put it's profits into it's lineup if they wanted to but most owners (many richer than the Steinbrenners) choose to pocket their $$$. blame your teams owner for not winning.

For sure there are richer owners out there but if they really wanted to sign star free agents, they would have to outbid the Yanks which would have them paying even more than the Yanks did. And then on the back end, they don't have the revenue the Yanks do to make up for it. New York has its advantages over other markets. The huge TV contract, passionate fans in their own massive market and across the U.S., and really just the intrigue of wearing the pinstripes. Credit the Steinbrenners for building what they have but lets not pretend everyone is playing on the same level. There are a few big boys and a bunch of farm teams that are nothing but revolving development programs. All in the eye of the beholder though, cause being in Portland, I'd take any of those AAAA clubs.