It would've been so more fun if you hadn't wasted two people's turns, but I for one don't hate you. I'll let BlueBlood speak for himself.
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1. Babe Ruth
2. Ty Cobb
3. Willie Mays
4. Honus Wagner (I actually think he should be ahead of Mays and Cobb)
John Shoemaker is on the clock
I suggest we have a thread just for the list and a thread for discussion. The back and forth over Ruth and Cobb had me completely lost.
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Originally posted by Erik Bedard View PostIt would've been so more fun if you hadn't wasted two people's turns, but I for one don't hate you. I'll let BlueBlood speak for himself."It is a simple matter to erect a Hall of Fame, but difficult to select the tenants." -- Ken Smith
"I am led to suspect that some of the electorate is very dumb." -- Henry P. Edwards
"You have a Hall of Fame to put people in, not keep people out." -- Brian Kenny
"There's no such thing as a perfect ballot." -- Jay Jaffe
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Originally posted by jjpm74 View PostI suggest we have a thread just for the list and a thread for discussion. The back and forth over Ruth and Cobb had me completely lost.
The discussion will ebb and flow, sometimes a lot, sometimes very little. Soon, the official turns will be very obvious as the list increases in length. For now, if posters make sure to end their turn with the "on the clock" statement at the very bottom, it will be easy to see which posts are official turns when scanning over the thread.Si quaeris peninsulam amoenam, circumspice.
Comprehensive Reform for the Veterans Committee -- Fixing the Hall continued.
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Originally posted by jjpm74 View Post4. Honus Wagner (I actually think he should be ahead of Mays and Cobb)1955 1959 1963 1965 1981 1988
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Originally posted by BlueBlood View PostWhy not pull a re-rank? This is the top of the list for cryin' out loud. We might as well get the Top Ten that best passes through this game's format, then start giving more leeway after. I really don't care if Joe Morgan's at #25 instead of #21 or #30....as long as it's reasonable. I just do really care about the top.
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Originally posted by jjpm74 View PostBecause I don't feel that strongly about strict ranking when I think we have our top 4. Ruth, Cobb, Wagner and Mays are my top 4. The only difference for me is that I would rank them Ruth, Wagner, Mays, Cobb.
I can see myself getting more concerned as we near various milestones, top 25, 50, 100, 150, 200. Does he really belong in the Top 50, something along those lines. And I'd like to have really good Top 200, Top 300, Top 500, Top 1000 lists to reference in the future.Si quaeris peninsulam amoenam, circumspice.
Comprehensive Reform for the Veterans Committee -- Fixing the Hall continued.
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Originally posted by Freakshow View PostI can see myself getting more concerned as we near various milestones, top 25, 50, 100, 150, 200. Does he really belong in the Top 50, something along those lines. And I'd like to have really good Top 200, Top 300, Top 500, Top 1000 lists to reference in the future.
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Originally posted by jjpm74 View Post#234 will also be significant."It is a simple matter to erect a Hall of Fame, but difficult to select the tenants." -- Ken Smith
"I am led to suspect that some of the electorate is very dumb." -- Henry P. Edwards
"You have a Hall of Fame to put people in, not keep people out." -- Brian Kenny
"There's no such thing as a perfect ballot." -- Jay Jaffe
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Originally posted by jjpm74 View Post#234 will also be significant.Last edited by Freakshow; 09-19-2008, 09:55 AM.Si quaeris peninsulam amoenam, circumspice.
Comprehensive Reform for the Veterans Committee -- Fixing the Hall continued.
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--I don't know that there is an exact umber of Hall of Famers anyway. There are probably a 100 or so guys that virtually everyone agrees belong. Then maybe 75 more who would be rejected only by small hall advocates and a few people with unusual evaluation techniques. Then probably as many more who have their advocates - be that a majority or a super majority (in which case they are probably in) or just a handfull of vocal advocates. There is a huge gray area on the margins of the Hall. The real problem is that they are a few players in that top 175 who have not been inducted and a few outside that 350 who have.
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Originally posted by Freakshow View PostYes, but not really. While that is literally the number of players currently in the HOF, by one way of counting, inorder to make an apples to apples comparison we'll have to deduct from our list the active players and ineligible players. So at the point we "match" the HOF we'll probably by somewhere in the 260's.
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