Red Sox Retired Numbers?

[Mike D.]

Let me guess...you want Roger Clemens' number retired, right? That said, I think number 3 is a tad silly.

I agree #3 is silly, too...it keeps Clemens, Boggs, and Evans from ever getting their numbers retired (not that I think Evans will make the HOF, but still).

[SoxSon]

Just looking for a few opinons on this:

What do you think of the Red Sox retired number policy? The policy states that the player:

1. Must be a Hall of Famer
2. Must have played at least 10 seasons with the Red Sox
Here is the kicker, and the part that I feel is just ridiculous...
3.Must finish their career with the team.

Looking for everyones opinion.

Scott

My general response to this is that I think it should be extremely difficult to retire a number. Taking a look at a certain other organization, Ron Guidry is an example of what shouldn't happen when looking at numbers to retire, IMO.

That being said, I also think a player can have a value to a certain ballclub that might not be fully understood by other teams, so...h

[Dalkowski110]

Let me guess...you want Roger Clemens' number retired, right? That said, I think number 3 is a tad silly.

[CurseReversed04]

Just looking for a few opinons on this:

What do you think of the Red Sox retired number policy? The policy states that the player:

1. Must be a Hall of Famer
2. Must have played at least 10 seasons with the Red Sox
Here is the kicker, and the part that I feel is just ridiculous...
3.Must finish their career with the team.

Looking for everyones opinion.

Scott

[SDL]

I think so, though I'm not positive. He was much celebrated by the Devil Rays, like a returning hero, so I got the impression that he was a hometown guy (though baseball-reference lists his birthplace as Nebraska). If the Hall hadn't changed his rules, he probably would be wearing a Devil Rays hat if that rumor was true.

Boggs grew up in Tampa, so he's regarded as a native down here.

Supposedly if and when Andre Dawson gets in the HOF, he'll be wearing a Marlins cap.

[soberdennis]

So? Bobby Thompson's number isn't retired by the Giants. Joe Carter's number is not retired by the Blue Jays.

As for Cy Young award winners - most don't have their numbers retired by any team.

I am just stating the probable reasons. Personally I find it hard to imagine any team retiring as many #s as the Yanks have. Nor should they. I am not 100% sure the Yanks should have , even though I am not sure whose # I wouldn't have retired.

[EvanAparra]

Theres a place for people this that... The Boston Red Sox Hall of Fame.

Charlie Wagner was in the Sox organization for 70 years, no one is retiring his number.

[DoubleX]

Garvey het probably the most famous homer in Padre history. I can see the Pads retiring his number. Fingers won a CYA with the Brewers.
But the others I agree with you on.
Garvey should have his number retired by the bums.

So? Bobby Thompson's number isn't retired by the Giants. Joe Carter's number is not retired by the Blue Jays.

As for Cy Young award winners - most don't have their numbers retired by any team.

[SDL]

Fisk was in the Sox organization for 11 years. Pesky for 7, Tony C for 6.

But i wouldnt be mad if they put Peskys number up, but i just wouldnt want it.

Conigliaro will not/should not have his number retired. 6 years is way too short, no matter how you look at it.

I like it being very exclusive. I dont want to retire every good players number.

Pesky has been with the organization for more than seven years...

And for Tony C, ..it is RESPECT if they hang it up. Hey, as you can tell, I'm a die-hard Bill Lee fan, but I know #37 will never be retired.

[soberdennis]

Wasnt he a player/manager for over 10 years? Then only a manager for a couple? I wouldnt exactly say this means its mainly management.

Cronin had his best years as a player in Washington. I would have to look at his entire career to know exactly how it broke down.
I looked it up and you are correct in that he was a player manager for all that time. In fact 46 was his first year as just manager. But many of those years he played less than 100 games. The breakdown between games as a Senator and games as a RedSox is close.
And correct me if I'm wrong, but I think he was GM before becoming AL Pres.

[soberdennis]

Boggs being retired as a Red Sox is certainly justified. The Devil Rays retiring his number was just silly and another example of an expansion team trying to create tradition from nothing (the Brewers retiring Aaron and Fingers are the best example of this; the Padres and Steve Garvey are another).

Boggs is apparently the reason why players can no longer pick what cap they wear on their Hall of Fame plaque. The rumor was that Boggs entered into some secret agreement with the Devil Rays in which he agreed to be a Devil Ray in the Hall of Fame.

Garvey het probably the most famous homer in Padre history. I can see the Pads retiring his number. Fingers won a CYA with the Brewers.
But the others I agree with you on.
Garvey should have his number retired by the bums.

[EvanAparra]

Wasnt he a player/manager for over 10 years? Then only a manager for a couple? I wouldnt exactly say this means its mainly management.

[DoubleX]

Did Boggs grow up in Tampa? Here's his HoF Plaque (wearing a Boston Cap):
http://www.baseballhalloffame.org/ho...Boggs_Wade.htm

I think so, though I'm not positive. He was much celebrated by the Devil Rays, like a returning hero, so I got the impression that he was a hometown guy (though baseball-reference lists his birthplace as Nebraska). If the Hall hadn't changed his rules, he probably would be wearing a Devil Rays hat if that rumor was true.

[The Kid]

Pesky and Tony C. didn't play long enough for the sox.

Only Foxx, Boggs and Clemens # should be retired.

[soberdennis]

I was just digging through an old box of baseball cards I had stored in my closet. I was never really a serious collector, but while I was still playing in the youth leagues I kept up with it somewhat. I digress. Anyway, I found this short stack of cards labeled "Baseball's All-Time Greats." It seems to be a complete set of 50 cards. They have no brand name on them, nor do they have any sort of date on them. I don't remember buying them, but I haven't bought a baseball card since 1985 or so. Interestingly, Jimmie Foxx is featured in a Red Sox uniform. Lefty Grove, however, is wearing his Philidelphia attire. The only other Red Sox: Ted, Tris, & Joe Cronin.

Of those three the only one who is always associated with the Sox is Ted. Speaker is just as much an Indian. Cronin's association with the Sox is mainly in management.