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    The Boston Globe is reporting that 38-year-old J.T. Snow is on the verge of signing with the Sox.

    Snow in Forecast?

    Well? What does the Nation think of this move? Of course, all along I thought we stood in desperate need of an aged first-baseman, so we could have a three-man platoon there -- perhaps four men, just to be on the safe side (Snow, Youk, Lowell, Graff).

    Sorry for the sarcasm. I thought we might be in the hunt for a center-fielder or something.
    Last edited by VTSoxFan; 01-01-2006, 04:08 PM.
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  • #2
    as a Yankees fan, I welcome this trade

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    • #3
      I am sure you do Black:grouchy

      I think our front office is totally ruining this team and it is a disgrace!

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      • #4
        Originally posted by VTSoxFan
        The Boston Globe is reporting that 38-year-old J.T. Snow is on the verge of signing with the Sox.
        ...
        Sorry for the sarcasm. I thought we might be in the hunt for a center-fielder or something.
        If this is true, I would assume that they're just looking for a glove man to play late innings and provide a LH bat off the bench. It doesn't look like there will be an experienced 1B on the team by opening day, so this kind of makes sense to me. 1B always seems like an odd position to carry a glove on the bench for to me, but Minty didn't wreck the team's chances in '04, did he?

        I think that all Bosox fans need to chill a little and see how the holes get filled...jeez, doesn't having Beckett around mean anything to you guys? Did you all want to kill Theo for losing Pedro, like you want to kill Lucchino for losing Damon? I think that the front office made the exact same determination for both of these players...and we won't know if it was the right call for a few years. But, hey, isn't Pedro's toe still killing him?
        "I throw him four wide ones, then try to pick him off first base." - Preacher Roe on pitching to Musial

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        • #5
          Originally posted by hellborn
          If this is true, I would assume that they're just looking for a glove man to play late innings and provide a LH bat off the bench. It doesn't look like there will be an experienced 1B on the team by opening day, so this kind of makes sense to me. 1B always seems like an odd position to carry a glove on the bench for to me, but Minty didn't wreck the team's chances in '04, did he?

          I think that all Bosox fans need to chill a little and see how the holes get filled...jeez, doesn't having Beckett around mean anything to you guys? Did you all want to kill Theo for losing Pedro, like you want to kill Lucchino for losing Damon? I think that the front office made the exact same determination for both of these players...and we won't know if it was the right call for a few years. But, hey, isn't Pedro's toe still killing him?
          It just seemed a bit odd to me. Here we are waiting to see who in the devil they're going to snag to play two vital positions -- SS and CF -- and they come out and say "Hey look what we got! A first-baseman!" I know it's an important postion, but... not what I was expecting to see. (BTW, I woudn't mind seeing Mientky back again.)

          And, um, yeah, I did want to strangle Theo for losing Pedro. I don't believe he ever seriously intended to keep him, and there's no replacing Pedro. If Beckett can pitch more than 150 innings, and pitch them halfway well, I'll be happy.

          Red Sox fans -- chill? What's that mean?
          Last edited by VTSoxFan; 01-01-2006, 08:08 PM.
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          • #6
            Originally posted by hellborn
            If this is true, I would assume that they're just looking for a glove man to play late innings and provide a LH bat off the bench. It doesn't look like there will be an experienced 1B on the team by opening day, so this kind of makes sense to me. 1B always seems like an odd position to carry a glove on the bench for to me, but Minty didn't wreck the team's chances in '04, did he?

            I think that all Bosox fans need to chill a little and see how the holes get filled...jeez, doesn't having Beckett around mean anything to you guys? Did you all want to kill Theo for losing Pedro, like you want to kill Lucchino for losing Damon? I think that the front office made the exact same determination for both of these players...and we won't know if it was the right call for a few years. But, hey, isn't Pedro's toe still killing him?
            pedro with a bad toe > josh beckett

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            • #7
              Yes and heres what fenway looks like.

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              • #8
                You are all aware that Snow has won six Gold Glove awards, correct? Most recent being in 2000. While his offense is not much to speak of, we do need a defensive 1B to platoon with Youkillis at 1B. So, I have no problem with this move. J.T. Snow will replace John Olerud's role on the team.

                We just have to hope that with more playing time, Youkillis can come up and be the offesive player we hope he will be.
                BTW, I woudn't mind seeing Mientky back again.
                You know Doug signed with the Royals, correct? Regardless, I don't want Doug back for the main reason he want to be a starter, not a part-time player, which he would be since he can't hit. I won't mind Doug back, but he has a very poor attitude. You should do what's best for the team, whether you're starting or not.

                The Royals were the only team willing to give Doug a starting job at 1B.

                Looking at what we can do about CF and SS, it will be some time until before position are address, unless the Tejada deal happen, but I've express my dislike for that deal, especially that proposed four team deal. Like I have said, Red Sox fans should not worry about SS as much. We have Tony as the last resort, but I doubt it would have to down to him being the SS, because I'm sure the club will sign Alex Gonzalez when they know where they stand with Tejada. If you sign Gonzalez, then get Tejada, then you have two SS. So, the club wait to see where it stand on Tejada before pulling the trigger on bring Gonzalez to Boston.

                CF is where all our stress and worry should be at. At this current moment, the only free agent out there for CF is Preston Wilson and I'm not too keen on him being our starting CF. Though, I prefer him over Gathright and Reed, because we don't have to deal a high level prospect or one of our pitchers for home. While I like to have Reed and Gathright, I don't like what we have to give up to get either of them.

                Of course, a big question on all our minds should be ''Who's going to lead-off next year?''. That's my biggest concern for the team at the moment.

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                • #9
                  Yes, I saw that Doug M. signed with KC. I mean... someone with that degree of defensive skill. I know Snow is no slouch with the glove.

                  It just seemed odd... as an analogy, think of the team as a house. The front office is replacing cracked windowpanes (1B) when there's a gaping hole in the roof (SS, CF). Time will tell whether the house will be habitable come Opening Day.
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by VTSoxFan
                    Yes, I saw that Doug M. signed with KC. I mean... someone with that degree of defensive skill. I know Snow is no slouch with the glove.

                    It just seemed odd... as an analogy, think of the team as a house. The front office is replacing cracked windowpanes (1B) when there's a gaping hole in the roof (SS, CF). Time will tell whether the house will be habitable come Opening Day.
                    Basically, I'll liken this deal to ordering from a diner. While you're waiting for your entree (SS/CF), your soup & salad are served. It's mostly something to take care of which needs to be taken care of.

                    If looking at 1B exclusively, the only two relatively top defenders in recent years were Mientkiewicz and Olerud. Beyond this, I'm not sure how good Tony Clark was defensively over there.

                    Still, people talk about the importance of a great SS, but if the 1Bman can't scoop that errant throw up, or dive for that ball in foul or fair territory, then the whole inning could change very quickly.

                    Do I consider this more important than SS/CF? Definitely not. I consider this just throwing a bones to the doggy, in that if his glovework is quality, then it's a needed move, regardless of other more glaring needs may exist. Sometimes teams have glaring needs, but the relatively minor ones aren't done.

                    Now let's see what Lucchino and the twin GMs do about the other holes to be dealt with.
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                    • #11
                      If the Sox just wanted a good glove man to play firstbase, then why not keep Mientkiewicz a year ago (other than the whole ball thing)? It's tough to predict what a team we'll get out of Snow, as his offense is up and down every year, but at age 38, I wouldn't expect much. I actually think Tino Martinez would be a better option for the Sox if they want to go down that route and if he doesn't retire. I would have also liked to have seen what Olerud could have done if given one more shot as a regular. At the very least, he'd be a better overall option than Snow as well.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by DoubleX
                        If the Sox just wanted a good glove man to play firstbase, then why not keep Mientkiewicz a year ago (other than the whole ball thing)? It's tough to predict what a team we'll get out of Snow, as his offense is up and down every year, but at age 38, I wouldn't expect much. I actually think Tino Martinez would be a better option for the Sox if they want to go down that route and if he doesn't retire. I would have also liked to have seen what Olerud could have done if given one more shot as a regular. At the very least, he'd be a better overall option than Snow as well.
                        I get the feeling that RSN wants to feel very comfortable about their players, and not just their capabilities. Or I could just say that w/many teams also.

                        For Mien, that ball thing, then the whole lawsuit fiasco, the loan, people would have mixed feelings. How could their cheer someone who took something so sentimental to them, as his own?

                        As to Tino, I think he's known primarily as a Yankee. Of course, Damon is known primarily as a Red Sox, so I could be wrong. His defense looked good overall, but I still think that Tony Clark snagged a few more crazy hits and throws. Also, when Tino was with TB, he said he'd play Boston really hard.

                        Strange thing is, Boomer said he wanted to blow up Fenway, so what they've said, who they've played for, doesn't seem to always translate into where they'll play for in the future.

                        Crazy unguided observations on my part.
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Mattingly
                          I get the feeling that RSN wants to feel very comfortable about their players, and not just their capabilities. Or I could just say that w/many teams also.

                          For Mien, that ball thing, then the whole lawsuit fiasco, the loan, people would have mixed feelings. How could their cheer someone who took something so sentimental to them, as his own?

                          As to Tino, I think he's known primarily as a Yankee. Of course, Damon is known primarily as a Red Sox, so I could be wrong. His defense looked good overall, but I still think that Tony Clark snagged a few more crazy hits and throws. Also, when Tino was with TB, he said he'd play Boston really hard.

                          Strange thing is, Boomer said he wanted to blow up Fenway, so what they've said, who they've played for, doesn't seem to always translate into where they'll play for in the future.

                          Crazy unguided observations on my part.
                          Not unguided at all, ive made pretty much the SAME observation.
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                          • #14
                            Snow a far better defensive option than Tino Martinez. Consider their age, I would say they're about even when it come to offense at this point of their career. I don't expect much on the offensive side from Snow, so I won't be shocked if he's batting around 250. or a little above or below that average.

                            Olerud could still hit and play good defense, so it would have been nice if he didn't retire. I will agree he would have been a better option at 1B than Snow, but nothing much you can do about that since Olerud retired. I also would have liked to see him tried one more time as regular at 1B, but it's not going to happen.

                            Mientkiewicz's problem was cover by Mattingly. You don't want this guy on the team for all the issues Mattingly mention. I also mention that Mientkiewicz want to start, not be a part-time player, like he would have been on our team if he stayed or came this year. Also, as I said, only the Royals were willing to give him the starting job at 1B that he desired. He still believe he can play starting 1B, that's also probably another reason why he walked after 04 season. We were not willing to give him a starting job.

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                            • #15
                              They'll probably get him. The sox love picking up old washed up players.

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