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    $4 million for one year, player option for next year. Clause in the contract gives as much as $2 million for number of games closed.

    So this is our new closer?

    A candidate?

    Maybe Mariners fans can enlighten me but this guy appears to have nothing.

    Hopefully he can help, but this looks like a move for a veteran when a youngster could come in for one tenth the price and perform as well.
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  • #2
    Well, it is interesting... If nothing else, if adds to the depth in that if a starter goes down (like about 5 guys did last year), here's a guy with starting experience who could plug a gap.
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    • #3
      Originally posted by sharrock
      $4 million for one year, player option for next year. Clause in the contract gives as much as $2 million for number of games closed.

      So this is our new closer?
      No, but he is a canidate. I think the Sox signed him for long releif.
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      • #4
        --4 million is alot for a long reliever. If the Sox are hoping for more out of him they will be disappointed though. He sucks. I didn't want him back in Seattle at any price.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by leecemark
          If the Sox are hoping for more out of him they will be disappointed though.
          I don't think they are. My guess is that he's just a fill-in, or a safety net, despite the clause in the contract.
          According to this, posted yesterday, the Sox are still interested in Cordero for the closer's role. Could be, however, that Buchholz is a deal-breaker:

          http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/rumors/p...?urn=mlb,19035
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          • #6
            The Yanks were interested in him earlier. Before our stockpile of young arms popped up I was ok to sign him as a safety net on the cheap but $4million? Oh snap! Here's hoping he gets closer duties....
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            • #7
              All I can think is that Piniero may provide volume innings as a filler which might easier allow the spinoff of a young arm(s) for a closer or other upgrade.

              At face value it makes zero sense to me. Perhaps taking a flier on him would be worthwhile but 4 million is too much for that to be their thinking, especially considering the unusual move of a player option.

              Curious if anyone has heard rumbling about Piniero drawing interest from any other teams.
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              • #8
                Doesn't seem like all that bad a deal to me...sure, it's a solid amount of money, but certainly nothing to break the bank. Adding depth without having to give up any players is nice.

                I imagine he'll go into the mix of bullpen arms, one of whom will become the closer. I can't see them matching the asking price in young talent that is being asked for medicore closers right now.
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                • #9
                  The more I think about this, the more I think this is a very good move. I figure that if our bullpen is only mediocre, we might as well stock up on the long reliever type, so that they don't have to pitch 4 innings every game. Hansen and Delcarmen were actually pretty good, until midseason when they were severely overworked. Our bullpen was taxed last year, and I think that this year between Piniero, Tavarez, DiNardo (if we keep him), Hansack, Romero, and Snyder they should be able to eat some innings, and hopefully we can get some good work out of them.

                  The more I think about Tavarez closing, the more I don't mind the idea. He thrives under pressure, and seems to do much better the more he's used. If you don't use him much he's not nearly as affective. I'd still rather someone else that's a "shutdown" closer, but Tavarez could do a decent job at it.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Jager
                    The more I think about Tavarez closing, the more I don't mind the idea. He thrives under pressure, and seems to do much better the more he's used. If you don't use him much he's not nearly as affective. I'd still rather someone else that's a "shutdown" closer, but Tavarez could do a decent job at it.
                    I feel Taveras is far to wild to be a closer. Great as a starter, but not a closer. I see only two real options for closer, trade for Mike Gonzalez or Chad Cordero.
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                    • #11
                      Pineiro might be decent in LR. He has lost a lot on his fastball, but his off-speed stuff is decent. Maybe the Sox are hoping they can get him to be effective. He has had some dominating appearances.
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                      • #12
                        http://www.baseball-reference.com/p/pineijo01.shtml

                        He had 15 of his 40 games in 2006 in relief. Before this, he hadn't come out of the pen since 2002 for 9 games. I'm thinking he could be more of a setup or LR/spot starter type than a closer.

                        Anyone know how effective he was in 2006 from the pen? How long does he take to warm up?
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                        • #13
                          It's a decent signing. For a back-up starter and possible relief pitcher.

                          On the deal side, I'm not sure why any person would be surprised by 4 million. He's still a starter and we should know what type of deals are being thrown around the market this winter.

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                          • #14
                            Apropos of not much, here, but...

                            When I got word of this signing I remembered a bit from the book Faithful, when one of the authors (I can't remember which) said that Piniero preferred to be called Jo-el (rather than the common pronunciation "Jole"), "as if he was from the Planet Krypton or something."

                            Anyway... it just made me smile.
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by VTSoxFan
                              When I got word of this signing I remembered a bit from the book Faithful, when one of the authors (I can't remember which) said that Piniero preferred to be called Jo-el (rather than the common pronunciation "Jole"), "as if he was from the Planet Krypton or something."
                              It is funny --- but wrong. Jo-el is the correct pronunciation, he is Latin and that's how Joel is said in Spanish, I dont fault him for that one bit.

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