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    "I think about baseball when I wake up in the morning. I think about it all day and I dream about it at night. The only time I don't think about it is when I'm playing it."
    Carl Yastrzemski

  • #2
    You think he'll still be there in by the July 31st deadline, or will Pedroia be called up? Would obviously lose his rookie status if he plays 44 games, but team needs could be more important.

    I'm seeing this also:

    Herald: Gonzalez, Sox agree to 1-year deal

    ESPN: Report: Red Sox, Alex Gonzalez agree to 1-year deal

    Globe: Gonzalez close?
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    • #3
      I think Gonzalez will be the starting SS until the trading deadline. Or, if one isnt brought in via trade, Pedoria will get his feet wet..
      The 2006 Boston Red Sox are better on paper then both the 2004 world championship team, and the 2005 team.
      Predictions:
      Josh Beckett wins 23 Games
      Mike Lowell has a bounce back season
      Kevin Youkillis will be exposed as a bench player, nothing more.
      Curt Schilling will have his worst season, ever.
      Coco Crisp will create more runs then Damon did in 2005.
      Trot Nixon will be on the DL 3 times.
      Keith Foulke will lose Closers job to Hanson by June.


      And the Boston Red Sox will win 99 games

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      • #4
        A career .291 OBP is awful. Not even Big Papi can drive a guy in when he (the guy) can't even get to first base.
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        • #5
          Originally posted by KCGHOST
          A career .291 OBP is awful. Not even Big Papi can drive a guy in when he (the guy) can't even get to first base.
          I expect him to bat low in the order; he's probably being brought in for his glove. I think Renteria would have been given a pass on his offense if his defense hadn't been so inconsistent. At least the Sox are only tied to Gonzalez for one year. At least we know that the team line about not signing long-term is still in place.

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          • #6
            A career .291 OBP is awful. Not even Big Papi can drive a guy in when he (the guy) can't even get to first base.
            Gonzalez will be batting 9th in the batting line-up, where Cora was going to bat before Alex Gonzalez was brought in.

            I'm glad they only signed him for one year contract. We can either bring a SS in during the deadline or during next off-season or Pedoria will take over the SS job during this season or next season. I doubt we'll see Alex Gonzalez beyond this season, unless he become a decent hitter, which isn't completely out of the question in Boston and at Fenway Park.

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            • #7
              Woohoo! Another Florida Marlins reject in the Red Sox infield

              (end sarcasm now)
              "Too many pitchers, that's all, there are just too many pitchers Ten or twelve on a team. Don't see how any of them get enough work. Four starting pitchers and one relief man ought to be enough. Pitch 'em every three days and you'd find they'd get control and good, strong arms."

              -Cy Young

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Sean Casey
                Woohoo! Another Florida Marlins reject in the Red Sox infield

                (end sarcasm now)

                I'm ok with the defensive game of these particular two Florida "rejects."
                "Anything less would not have been worthy of me. Anything more would not have been possible." - Carl Yastrzemski

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Sean Casey
                  Woohoo! Another Florida Marlins reject in the Red Sox infield

                  (end sarcasm now)
                  The other reject, Lowell, won a Gold Glove last year.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Evangelion
                    The other reject, Lowell, won a Gold Glove last year.
                    And batted .236 with only 8 homeruns in 500 ABs (after hitting 83 in the previous 3 seasons), with an abysmal OPS+ of 77. I expect an OPS+ like that from Gonzalez, but Lowell better (and should) improve.

                    As for Gonzalez, I think he's mostly a stopgag. He's a stepup from Alex Cora (who can't hit or field) and he's probably just keeping the seat warm for Pedroia. Who knows, perhaps Pedroia will break in for the Sox just like Cano did for the Yanks last year.

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                    • #11
                      XX, I can't help but feel a dark cloud over the Red Sox Forum whenever you post. I know you are a respected mod on your board, but man, you really make me feel depressed. I know you have it in you...say something uplifting about the Sox, just once

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Boston Boxer
                        XX, I can't help but feel a dark cloud over the Red Sox Forum whenever you post. I know you are a respected mod on your board, but man, you really make me feel depressed. I know you have it in you...say something uplifting about the Sox, just once
                        BB, I try to post as I see it from an objective standpoint, and I don't hold back about the Yankees either when I have something objectively negative to say about them. For example, if you go back to my posts just after the Sox acquired Beckett and Lowell, I lauded it as a great trade here in the Red Sox forum, because at the time I objectively thought it was, and I still think it was very good trade (though I'm not as sure I was at the time). I honestly expect Lowell to bounce back and be at least as productive as Bill Mueller. If he returns to his old form, he'll be better than Mueller and provide a third potent bat to team up with Manny and Ortiz. Beckett, has a high upside and has shown poise in tough situations (i.e. the '03 World Series). There are some questions about him that I can't get past, so I post my thoughts on that (but I'll spare you this time ).

                        I like the pickup of Crisp a lot. He's cheaper and younger than Damon and is already just about as good a hitter than Damon. It still remains to be seen how he'll hold up defensively full-time in CF, but I think the Sox made a major upgrade in getting Crisp and I think over the next 4 years, he'll be a vastly superior player than Johnny Damon. Though I wouldn't be surprised if Crisp moves to RF at some point in the next year or two (probably because Nixon will be injured at some point) and the Sox find someone else to play CF or that Brandon Moss will step up to play CF down the road.

                        Let's see...umm...I like Mike Timlin, I think he's very underrated and he's a great guy to have in the bullpen. For all the attention Tom Gordon got over the past 2 seasons, I think Timlin was every bit as good a setup man, and he close as well.

                        Manny and Ortiz form the best 1-2 punch in baseball that I think I've seen during my lifetime.

                        I used to try to find a reason to not like Jason Varitek, but it's impossible. The guy's a gamer. He's what a catcher should be - the heart and soul of a team. He's a throwback in that way.

                        What else.....Umm...Wakefield sure throws a good knuckler...

                        Theo is a terrific GM. The moves he made during the '04 season were not only perfect, but were gutsy.

                        How's all that been?

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                        • #13
                          Yeah, I'm pretty happy about this, add him to Lorretta, Lowell and Snow we have one of the best defensive infields in the game.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by SoxSon
                            I'm ok with the defensive game of these particular two Florida "rejects."
                            Defense is great to have, but at what point does it not become worth it to sacrifice about 60-75 points in batting average for an above average fielder. I was perfectly happy with Mueller's defense at third, and he batted .295 last year, a mark that Lowell has never reached in his career.

                            Gonzalez, although also an above average fielder, has an abysmal .245 career BA (only 1 point higher than Alex Cora's) and a dreadful .291 OBP (19 points lower than Cora's). Even Gonzalez's fielding percentage is lower than Cora's, and although fielding percentage isn't everything when determining defensive abilities, the stat still exists for a reason.
                            "Too many pitchers, that's all, there are just too many pitchers Ten or twelve on a team. Don't see how any of them get enough work. Four starting pitchers and one relief man ought to be enough. Pitch 'em every three days and you'd find they'd get control and good, strong arms."

                            -Cy Young

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                            • #15
                              Finaly, we complete our infield... Gonzalez is a perfect fit for this team, I've seen him play in Montreal, and he's awsome...
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