Giving Red Sox Fans a Bad Name...

[Bosoxd212]

Did you hear about the fans that beat a guy to a pulp bc he was wearing a Yankees ball cap?

http://www.wickedlocal.com/cambridge/homepage/x1637136069

[hellborn]

Ridiculous. Those guys should do some serious time. They're sports teams, people!

I guess the worst I've experienced is four blind stinking drunk 250-300 lb scumbags screaming in my face at Yankee Stadium, but they never got to the point of assaulting me. If they had, my only hope would have been that they were so drunk that they couldn't fight effectively.

[Yankeebiscuitfan]

OK. Who said yesterday that Yankee fans were classy? :dismay:

[efin98]

Those weren't fans, those were drunken idiots.

Throw the book at them, they deserve a few months in jail at least for that.

[hellborn]

OK. Who said yesterday that Yankee fans were classy? :dismay:

I've had many great conversations with Yanks fans at Fenway and Yankee, believe me. I missed about 70% of one game in Boston because my friend and I were having such an intense and interesting discussion with a couple from Jersey who really knew their history.
I've also had plenty of random insults and jeers from Yanks fans, which is fine. Those four guys took it to another level...they were literally screaming at me from four inches away. I would just tell them that they should turn around because they were missing another extra base hit off Beckett, but they would be back again in 30 seconds. I assume they focused on me out of my group of 4 Bosox fans because I was the biggest, but the smallest of them probably had 30 lbs on me. I was hoping that the ushers would get them off me before I was dead, because I sure wasn't going to leave or take off my Bosox stuff because of them.
There are jerks of all stripes in life!

[Yankeebiscuitfan]

I've had many great conversations with Yanks fans at Fenway and Yankee, believe me. I missed about 70% of one game in Boston because my friend and I were having such an intense and interesting discussion with a couple from Jersey who really knew their history.
I've also had plenty of random insults and jeers from Yanks fans, which is fine. Those four guys took it to another level...they were literally screaming at me from four inches away. I would just tell them that they should turn around because they were missing another extra base hit off Beckett, but they would be back again in 30 seconds. I assume they focused on me out of my group of 4 Bosox fans because I was the biggest, but the smallest of them probably had 30 lbs on me. I was hoping that the ushers would get them off me before I was dead, because I sure wasn't going to leave or take off my Bosox stuff because of them.
There are jerks of all stripes in life!

I am referring to a remark from a Sox fan about a similar case. But this time the Red Sox fan was beaten up. He said something like : "And then they say that Yankee fans are classy". I told him that those Yankee fans were morons too, and that unfortunately every team has morons like this as fans.

This article proves my point.

[MadHatter]

Maybe on topiv, maybe not... but the first time I ever visited Yankee Stadium, I made the mistake of wearing my Red Sox hat while sitting in the bleachers. Well, unbeknownst(sp?) to me, a Yankee fan a few rows back had leaped in an attempt to swipe my hat, but in doing so bumped into the people behind me. That started a fight and a riot, which for some reason I got kicked out for insighting.

Unfortuinately this meant that I missed Ken Griffey Jr's 9th inning homer to win it, but I did see it from the bar down the road. The Yankee fans who had actually started the riot bought me a round because they felt bad that I got booted.

Sheesh... Yankee fans.

[DoubleX]

Maybe on topiv, maybe not... but the first time I ever visited Yankee Stadium, I made the mistake of wearing my Red Sox hat while sitting in the bleachers. Well, unbeknownst(sp?) to me, a Yankee fan a few rows back had leaped in an attempt to swipe my hat, but in doing so bumped into the people behind me. That started a fight and a riot, which for some reason I got kicked out for insighting.

There have been a few posts like this now in this thread. From a Yankees fan perspective and experience, the same types of things happen at Fenway to Yankees fans, or can happen just in Boston in general when wearing Yankees gear. I've seen Yankee fans taunted, cursed at, hat flipped off, pushed, tripped, doused in beer, and spat on, in and around Fenway, and even at the Fleet Center (or whatever it's called now) at non-baseball events. The most disturbing thing I saw routinely at Fenway was young kids, perhaps just 6 or 7 years old, yelling things and using words directed at Yankee fans and players that are revolting for children that age (or any age really). It makes you wonder what they'll be like when they grow up. So this stuff happens on both sides. Getting jumped by a bunch of people though and put in the hospital, is more rare, though I think it happened last year in New York to a Red Sox fan.

It is true though that at Yankee Stadium, if you're wearing Red Sox gear and are involved in an altercation, chances are you'll be escorted out, rather than the Yankees fans. I don't agree with it, but I suppose the argument to be made is that it's safer to just get the Sox fan out than to take out a mob of Yankee fans. I was at a game last year when one Red Sox fan was being escorted out, he ended up punching the female officer escorting him out, which resulted in a number of officers jumping on him and carrying him out.

[Yankeebiscuitfan]

There have been a few posts like this now in this thread. From a Yankees fan perspective and experience, the same types of things happen at Fenway to Yankees fans, or can happen just in Boston in general when wearing Yankees gear. I've seen Yankee fans taunted, cursed at, hat flipped off, pushed, tripped, doused in beer, and spat on, in and around Fenway, and even at the Fleet Center (or whatever it's called now) at non-baseball events. The most disturbing thing I saw routinely at Fenway was young kids, perhaps just 6 or 7 years old, yelling things and using words directed at Yankee fans and players that are revolting for children that age (or any age really). It makes you wonder what they'll be like when they grow up. So this stuff happens on both sides. Getting jumped by a bunch of people though and put in the hospital, is more rare, though I think it happened last year in New York to a Red Sox fan.

It is true though that at Yankee Stadium, if you're wearing Red Sox gear and are involved in an altercation, chances are you'll be escorted out, rather than the Yankees fans. I don't agree with it, but I suppose the argument to be made is that it's safer to just get the Sox fan out than to take out a mob of Yankee fans. I was at a game last year when one Red Sox fan was being escorted out, he ended up punching the female officer escorting him out, which resulted in a number of officers jumping on him and carrying him out.

Like I said. Every team has "fans" like this. Sad that things like this happen. Our beautiful sport isnt't worth to go down like soccer.

[JerseySoxFan19]

yeah the same thing happened to a sox fan in NY last october. i mean come on i love the game and i admit i know a few yankee fans who i'd love to beat up but i'm not going to because it gives us all a bad name

[hellborn]

There have been a few posts like this now in this thread. From a Yankees fan perspective and experience, the same types of things happen at Fenway to Yankees fans, or can happen just in Boston in general when wearing Yankees gear. I've seen Yankee fans taunted, cursed at, hat flipped off, pushed, tripped, doused in beer, and spat on, in and around Fenway, and even at the Fleet Center (or whatever it's called now) at non-baseball events. The most disturbing thing I saw routinely at Fenway was young kids, perhaps just 6 or 7 years old, yelling things and using words directed at Yankee fans and players that are revolting for children that age (or any age really). It makes you wonder what they'll be like when they grow up. So this stuff happens on both sides. Getting jumped by a bunch of people though and put in the hospital, is more rare, though I think it happened last year in New York to a Red Sox fan.

It is true though that at Yankee Stadium, if you're wearing Red Sox gear and are involved in an altercation, chances are you'll be escorted out, rather than the Yankees fans. I don't agree with it, but I suppose the argument to be made is that it's safer to just get the Sox fan out than to take out a mob of Yankee fans. I was at a game last year when one Red Sox fan was being escorted out, he ended up punching the female officer escorting him out, which resulted in a number of officers jumping on him and carrying him out.

It's the same basic rule at Fenway, XX...if there's an altercation involving a Yanks fan, he's the one who probably gets the boot. Not fair, but probably simplest for security.
Of course, I have witnessed a lot of vile treatment of Yanks fans at Fenway, and I don't agree with it at all. I have mocked a few Yanks fans who wore insane amounts of Yanks regalia in Fenway and were overly vocal about their allegiance, but have never been vulgar and probably had a big smile on my face while I was doing it.
I brought up my incident at Yankee because I felt those guys were definitely looking for a fight...they probably wanted me to try to push them away or something, and then use that as a justification for throwing punches.

[gojays]

Like I said. Every team has "fans" like this. Sad that things like this happen. Our beautiful sport isnt't worth to go down like soccer.

I agree that every team has some idiots as 'fans', but it seems like the majority of these things happen with the Red Sox and Yankees.(for obvious reasons)
I've always thought that if I went to a game in another city, I would wear my Jays hat no matter what. Have there ever been any incidents with fans of other teams in either Yankee Stadium or Fenway?

[DoubleX]

I brought up my incident at Yankee because I felt those guys were definitely looking for a fight...they probably wanted me to try to push them away or something, and then use that as a justification for throwing punches.

They probably were looking for a fight. You get the same vileness at both Yankee Stadium and Fenway when it comes to fans of the opposing team. I just found it interesting that when the initial attention was on a couple of moronic fans that beat up a Yankee fan, people turn around and point to their negative experiences with Yankee fans, as if to say, "look, they're bad too." I think it goes without saying that if you're a fan of the other team in the rivalry, you can be in for a tough time at the other team's stadium. It was like some of you got defensive about this, and you shouldn't have - these guys were obviously morons, going beyond the typical crap you see, and you shouldn't take it personally. It unfortunately happens on occasion, and we all have to live with the fact that we support two teams that have a lot of moronic and belligerent fans.

I should note that I've also had some very fun experiences at Fenway with Red Sox fans, particularly in the bleachers. Of course, there's a caveat - they're very drunk and I don't let on that I'm a Yankees fan.

And in conclusion, I think we should all be thankful that we're not Philly fans - now those guys have a reputation. I was down at a party in south Jersey the other night, and some of the stories I heard about going to games in Philly, particular if you're sporting gear of the other team, are horrendous.

[hellborn]

My response was being a little defensive, but I also thought others might chip in with times they felt threatened by violence at games, or because of their sports allegiances.
I remember Cubs fans as usually being mellow, more interested in soaking in the sun and just enjoying Wrigley than fighting over silly things like baseball...but, I also had drunks yelling at me because I was rooting for Nolan Ryan when he was pitching against the Cubs. Not in a loud manner, just pumping my fist after Ks and things like that. Nobody was looking to fight, but I got comments all game long, and you'd think they would have just dropped it after they weren't having any effect. Hey, I paid for my ticket, too, you know? I still liked the Cubs a lot, just had an obsession with Ryan at the time.
Funny, never saw any violence in Arlington, Montreal, or SF...wonder why?
:cap:
I think there's a good way to be a visiting team fan, and lots of bad ways...people shouldn't have to deal with abuse for just wearing shirts and hats, and cheering when their team does well. But, somebody who dresses in a Babe Ruth '20 uniform at Fenway and walks down the aisles yelling at people, or points to all the people around them in the stands and screams, "YOU SUCK!", whenever their team scores a run...well, I'm not saying at all that they should get beat up, but they're inviting more attention than they probably really want from a large crowd that is not sympathetic to them. People shouldn't have to stealth it when they're visitors, but they should be reasonable, too.

[Imgran]

There is no excuse for violence, but the rivalry between Boston and New York does go beyond baseball to the founding of the nation. Along with Philly, Boston and New York,and a Virginian city, can't remember which one, were the cities competing to become the new nation's capital and they've competed in the ventures of every era since.