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  • MudvilleMike
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    Originally posted by KCGHOST
    Crisp makes $2.75 this year. The extension call for $15M for 2007-2009. The 2010 option year calls for another $8M or a $500K buyout. Thus the Red Sox have locked up Crisp for his age 26-29 seasons for $18.25M. Seems like a reasonable price for a non-star regular outfielder.
    A CF is much more valuable than a typical "non-star regular" outfielder (all other things being equal). If he plays as well as he has the last two years, he'll be a huge bargain. Given his age, he may do much better than that.

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  • FlashGordon
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    Originally posted by Jager
    Its not on potential. He's a good CF'er/leadoff man anyways. He has always wanted to play in Boston, and thats not just something he said after he got traded either. His numbers have gotten better each year he's been playing. He's 26 and he's almost where Damon was anyways. I'm not saying that Crisp is going to bat .350, but even if he doesn't improve he'll still be a good leadoff man and CF'er. He has great speed, and a slightly better arm than Damon. I'm not saying he's going to be the best ever, but compared to Damon he's close to a wash. He has a very good personality, and he relishes the chance to play in Boston.
    A "good" player often becomes trade-bait when a "great" player from another team becomes a FA. All I've been saying is that a 3-year extension doesn't mean anything more than his salary over then next 3-years is a known quantity. The only player I believe will see the full 3-years in a Sox uniform is David Ortiz. Give Coco at least a full season before predicting he'll be here through 2008.

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  • pesky6
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    Originally posted by Jager
    No I was referring to this post. He then went on in his next post to say that Renteria was good "young up and comer". Yes Renteria the 10 year veteran. lol. Take offense if you want, but go back and read most of his posts and most of them don't make sense.
    Regardless of whether or not they make sense, at least he's not as rude as you are.

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  • Jager
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    Originally posted by FlashGordon
    Crisp has been our starter for 8 games. There are still 144 left to go. If you have some magic crystal ball to see into the future, then please tell me what the next Power Ball numbers are. We've seen the Red Sox organization (and their fans) turn on a dime regarding players of greater abilities. Today it's a fractured knuckle, tomorrow a groin pull. Part of bringing in players with potential is that until they really start racking up the numbers, it is only that--potential. Fenway Park and Yankee Stadium have destroyed the confidence of many a young player. I'm hopeful he'll fit in nicely and make for a smooth transition in a post-Damon era, but I'm not going to slap the franchise tag on him just because the fans like the sound of his name.
    Its not on potential. He's a good CF'er/leadoff man anyways. He has always wanted to play in Boston, and thats not just something he said after he got traded either. His numbers have gotten better each year he's been playing. He's 26 and he's almost where Damon was anyways. I'm not saying that Crisp is going to bat .350, but even if he doesn't improve he'll still be a good leadoff man and CF'er. He has great speed, and a slightly better arm than Damon. I'm not saying he's going to be the best ever, but compared to Damon he's close to a wash. He has a very good personality, and he relishes the chance to play in Boston.

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  • FlashGordon
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    Originally posted by Jager
    do you know anything about baseball? Most of your posts just seem like your talking out your ass. It's all different circumstances. Crisp is our leadoff man and CF'er that people already love.
    Crisp has been our starter for 8 games. There are still 144 left to go. If you have some magic crystal ball to see into the future, then please tell me what the next Power Ball numbers are. We've seen the Red Sox organization (and their fans) turn on a dime regarding players of greater abilities. Today it's a fractured knuckle, tomorrow a groin pull. Part of bringing in players with potential is that until they really start racking up the numbers, it is only that--potential. Fenway Park and Yankee Stadium have destroyed the confidence of many a young player. I'm hopeful he'll fit in nicely and make for a smooth transition in a post-Damon era, but I'm not going to slap the franchise tag on him just because the fans like the sound of his name.

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  • KCGHOST
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    Crisp makes $2.75 this year. The extension call for $15M for 2007-2009. The 2010 option year calls for another $8M or a $500K buyout. Thus the Red Sox have locked up Crisp for his age 26-29 seasons for $18.25M. Seems like a reasonable price for a non-star regular outfielder.

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  • FlashGordon
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    Originally posted by Jager
    No I was referring to this post. He then went on in his next post to say that Renteria was good "young up and comer". Yes Renteria the 10 year veteran. lol. Take offense if you want, but go back and read most of his posts and most of them don't make sense.
    Sorry, I'm writing a dissertation these days and can't spend endless hours of my life poring over a fantasy league sheet to nit-pick over minutiae. And the reason I'm a mod isn't because I proclaim a vast knowledge of baseball; it's because I'm civil towards others and save the personal jabs for PM, avoiding them whenever possible. If you don't agree with what I say, that's fine. But unless you really want me to rip you a new one, I'd suggest toning it down.

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  • Captain Cold Nose
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    Originally posted by Jager
    No I was referring to this post. He then went on in his next post to say that Renteria was good "young up and comer". Yes Renteria the 10 year veteran. lol. Take offense if you want, but go back and read most of his posts and most of them don't make sense.
    This coming from someone who advocates Tim Wakefield as a Hall of Famer.
    There's a reason why he's a moderator. I wouldn't challenge him on baseball knowledge if I were you.

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  • Jager
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    Originally posted by FlashGordon
    Sorry to be the typical pessimist, but didn't the Sox sign someone else to a 3-year extension a few months back? Someone who is now pitching (and hitting) for the Reds? I hope Coco will be around for a while, but don't hold your breath on the term of the contract. Not yet, at least.
    No I was referring to this post. He then went on in his next post to say that Renteria was good "young up and comer". Yes Renteria the 10 year veteran. lol. Take offense if you want, but go back and read most of his posts and most of them don't make sense.

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  • FlashGordon
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    Originally posted by efin98
    10 years in the league and still a young up and comer? You are about the only person who thought that about him.
    Fair enough, although he certainly had the age advantage over Cabrera (and a slight one over Nomar).

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  • YOUgodofwalks
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    Originally posted by Jager
    do you know anything about baseball? Most of your posts just seem like your talking out your ass. It's all different circumstances. Crisp is our leadoff man and CF'er that people already love.
    Is this post about me? If so I take extreme offense and if not whoever you wrote that about should take offense and I don't think the mods should allow you to denegrate people and their opinions that are just as valid as yours.

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  • MudvilleMike
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    Originally posted by RedSoxVT92
    That and also Crisp could end up being a great player and is only 26. Wicked fast, plays good defense and will probably hit a high average. Arroyo on the other hand was not really a great player (around a 4.00 era) and a bit older(not by much though) Crisp could become one of the top outfielders in the league while Arroyo was just a number 7 starter.
    Arroyo is a solid starting pitcher, hardly "a number 7 starter."

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  • efin98
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    Originally posted by Jager
    I'd definetely like to see them lock Beckett up for a while. I hope they do. I definetely don't want him to go anywhere.
    He's playing for a big contract this year, and the team will give it to him. They would be criminal not to.
    Last edited by efin98; 04-12-2006, 08:47 PM.

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  • Mike D.
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    Originally posted by Jager
    I'd definetely like to see them lock Beckett up for a while. I hope they do. I definetely don't want him to go anywhere.
    I'm sure that's the plan.

    He's under the team's control for another couple years at least (not sure exactly how many), but I think they'd love to sign him to a multi-year deal, buying out the rest of his arbitration years and the first couple free agent seasons.

    Beckett seems to like Boston so far, a good sign. Just a matter of them being able to agree on years and dollars. Time will tell!

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  • Jager
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    I'd definetely like to see them lock Beckett up for a while. I hope they do. I definetely don't want him to go anywhere.

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