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  • Originally posted by maximum jack View Post
    Horrible, horrible.
    You said it. Horrible.
    --Annie
    Be civil to all, sociable to many, familiar with few, friend to one, enemy to none. -Benjamin Franklin, statesman, author, and inventor (1706-1790)
    Remember Yellowdog
    ABNY

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    • Well, he didn't lose it, but what a waste. I definitely would have gone with Bard in that situation. If he's going to be the closer of the future, no better time than now to get him some playoff-like experience. Terry Francona is not my MoY.
      "I believe in the Church of Baseball. I tried all the major religions and most of the minor ones. I've worshipped Buddha, Allah, Brahma, Vishnu, Siva, trees, mushrooms and Isadora Duncan. I know things. For instance, there are 108 beads in a Catholic rosary and there are 108 stitches in a baseball. When I learned that, I gave Jesus a chance." ~Ron Shelton, from Bull Durham

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      • Tense game. Mo blows it and Papelbon blew it. But, good pitching to get Posada out. He always swings at that pitch.....

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        • I had a heart attack this past January. I think my cardiologist should put me on a Papelbon-free regimen...
          sigpicMan, do I *HATE* the Yankees!!!!!!

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          • So, what's Papelbon's contract status? Is he a free agent after this season?
            --Annie
            Be civil to all, sociable to many, familiar with few, friend to one, enemy to none. -Benjamin Franklin, statesman, author, and inventor (1706-1790)
            Remember Yellowdog
            ABNY

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            • Pap's last contract

              Really, we go with Okajima here?
              "I believe in the Church of Baseball. I tried all the major religions and most of the minor ones. I've worshipped Buddha, Allah, Brahma, Vishnu, Siva, trees, mushrooms and Isadora Duncan. I know things. For instance, there are 108 beads in a Catholic rosary and there are 108 stitches in a baseball. When I learned that, I gave Jesus a chance." ~Ron Shelton, from Bull Durham

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              • I don't even know what to say. Sickening.
                --Annie
                Be civil to all, sociable to many, familiar with few, friend to one, enemy to none. -Benjamin Franklin, statesman, author, and inventor (1706-1790)
                Remember Yellowdog
                ABNY

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                • Good game overall. This is the type of Yankees-Red Sox game I enjoy. Close back and forth keeping us on the edge of our seats.

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                  • Originally posted by maximum jack View Post
                    Pap's last contract

                    Really, we go with Okajima here?
                    Thanks for the info. On one hand I am relieved to know that his contract is up after the season.... but on the other I worry that Theo will bring him back.
                    --Annie
                    Be civil to all, sociable to many, familiar with few, friend to one, enemy to none. -Benjamin Franklin, statesman, author, and inventor (1706-1790)
                    Remember Yellowdog
                    ABNY

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                    • Rivera is going to retire. Yankees will then sign Paps and he rebounds..and kills us.
                      sigpicMan, do I *HATE* the Yankees!!!!!!

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                      • Originally posted by VTSoxFan View Post
                        They should have scored about 73 more runs... now Papelbon has loaded the bases and has only 1 out.

                        I know the Sox aren't going anywhere but home after next weekend, but it makes me ill to see him do this. (Especially v NY.) Can't he ever have a clean 1-2-3? The way he's going he's gonna walk in the tying run.
                        Considering the fact the Red Sox could have won the series against White Sox 3-1 and the Yankees had to win their series in Toronto to clinch in that scenario, then play in Boston with all the pressure of blowing a huge lead. It was completely possible to sneak into the playoffs. Now? Boston must sweep, Yankees must be swept.

                        So, yeah, I'm quite annoyed that Papelbon blew it, his eighth blown save of the year, to basically likely end the season. If they swept the Yankees, they would have been in trouble with a lot of pressure on them. The Mets collapsed twice in that type of situation. I won't put the Yankees above pressure of that level.

                        Though, it's all doesn't matter since Papelbon blew yet another game. Don't you remember when he believed he was as good as Rivera, Hoffman and Nathan at one point? He can't blast his fastball by people and he's being exposed badly these past two years. Man, I really don't like him.

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                        • Originally posted by VTSoxFan View Post
                          Thanks for the info. On one hand I am relieved to know that his contract is up after the season.... but on the other I worry that Theo will bring him back.
                          I’ve read that Theo has indicated he will bring Papelbon back for 2011. It’s possible this was just an off year for him, and it’s possible he bounces back next season. But it’s also possible he’s in decline and may never be as good as he used to be.

                          Papelbon currently leads all AL closers with 8 blown saves and has an ERA of 4.02. His highest ERA previously was 2.65 in 2005, his first year pitching in the majors.

                          I’ve read that with arbitration, Papelbon most likely will receive 12 million or more. But will he really be worth 12+ million dollars in 2011?

                          Fangraphs places a dollar value on players based on their WAR (wins above replacement) stat. Papelbon currently has a WAR of 1.1 and a dollar value of 4.5 million.

                          While I do believe Papelbon can still be a decent closer, I’m just not sure he’ll be worth 12+ million. I’ve read where some have suggested trading him or even non tendering an offer to him, making him a FA. And that the 12+ million saved could be used to sign one or two FA relievers. And there are some very good FA relievers available this offseason such as Grant Balfour, Scott Downs, J.J. Putz and Rafael Soriano.

                          If I was Theo, I’d look into trading Papelbon, then sign Soriano as the closer, keep Bard in the setup role and sign Downs as a lefty specialist.

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                          • i am pretty down on Paps myself...but that ump behind the plate last night sucked. there were several pitches that were strikes only to be called balls (verified my the electronic strike zone thingy). While Paps has had a terrible season, i am not ready to hang him for last night.

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                            • Originally posted by Boston Boxer View Post
                              i am pretty down on Paps myself...but that ump behind the plate last night sucked. there were several pitches that were strikes only to be called balls (verified my the electronic strike zone thingy). While Paps has had a terrible season, i am not ready to hang him for last night.
                              Phil Cuzzi. . . same guy who blew that totally obvious call in the Yanks/Twins ALDS last year.

                              Did anyone catch Morgan's comments during the game last night about how if the Red Sox had gone out and gotten some better talent to replace Youk/Pedroia/Ellsbury/Cameron, then they would have still "been in it"? I completely disagree with his line of thought--I'm glad Theo didn't lose his head and give up young talent for half-season rentals. Besides, who would they have gotten to replace those guys, and how much would they have given up?

                              Yeah, this season has been frustrating, but we have a good chance to win 90 games despite all of our injuries and have a lot to look forward to in 2011. Buchholz has finally learned how to pitch, and Lester has had a Cy Young-esque season. Papelbon has been a disappointment for sure, but Bard is waiting in the wings.

                              How many days until pitchers and catchers?

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