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    July second (first day of the early phase of International scouting) is about 6 months away, but is never to early talk who are the top players who will be signing at that time and for the time being this is a list of the top Venezuelans prospects.

    01- Luis Torrens 3B
    02- Adrian Navas RHP
    03- Luis Guzman LHP
    04- Samir Duenez SS
    05- Luis Bandes OF
    06- Franklin Barreto 3B/OF
    07- Henry Gonzalez RHP
    08- Dedgar Jimenez LHP
    09- Jesus Bastos LHP
    10- Rainis Silva C
    11- Jose Ordaz OF
    12- Angelo Centeno SS/3B
    13- Onil Perdomo RHP
    14- Jorge Espinoza SS
    15- Antonio Tovar 1B/OF
    16- Gleyber Torrez OF
    17- Rony Cabrera OF
    18- Luis Bendeles SS
    19- Jose Uviedo RHP
    20- Yohandry Montilla RHP
    21- Francisco Roman OF
    22- Adrian Navas RHP
    23- David Rodriguez C
    24- Jose Ugueto SS
    25- Orlando Mosquera RHP
    26- Raymond Solarte OF
    *- Jorge Gil OF
    *- Harold Morales OF
    *- Alexander Palma OF
    *- Horacio Arcas OF
    *- Carlos Arroyo OF
    *- Junnel Ledezman SS
    *- Melvin Novoa Catcher
    *- Oscar Lizandro catcher
    *- Oscar Balladares RHP
    *- Ino Laguna RHP
    *- Gabriel Noguera LHP
    *- Jose Lopez P
    *- Anderson Guarate catcher
    *- Daniel Echenique catcher
    *- Eduardo Lezama SS
    *- Abraham Gavidia SS
    *- Anthony Meza OF
    *- Luis Isquierdo OF
    *- Luis Castro SS
    *- Jose Castillo LHP
    *- Jose Mujica RHP

    * Names added to the original list.
    Last edited by scaffolds; 04-23-2012, 06:37 PM.

  • #2
    Talking about the 2012-2013 international signing period, one should keep in mind that under the new CBA there will be a spending cap of $2.9m per team. Teams that go over that limit are fined a 100% tax on any dollar spent above the threshold and not be allowed to sign an international player for more than$0.25m the following year.

    Any international player signed before July, 2nd 2012 does not fall under the new CBA (i.e. Cespedes, Soler etc. can be signed for whatever contract a team is willing to give out).
    Watching Derek Jeter make 40 defensive plays and then watching Adam Everett make 40 defensive plays at the same position is sort of like watching video of Barbara Bush dancing at the White House, and then watching Demi Moore dancing in Striptease. (Bill James)

    Dustin Pedroia doesn't have the strength or bat speed to hit major-league pitching consistently, and he has no power. If he can continue to hit .260 or so, he'll be useful, and he probably has a future as a backup infielder. (Keith Law)

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    • #3
      The top Dominican prospects for the 2012 July signing period are:

      Short Stops:

      Yan Carlos Baez
      Frandi De La Rosa
      Angel Moreno
      Francis Peguero
      Felix Sanchez
      Grafi Cruz-Martinez
      Wandel Rijo
      Elvis Perez
      Octavis Lugo
      Yunior Deleon
      Rawi Barrios
      Vicson Graciano
      Amauri Miniel
      Darlin Mota
      Elia Soler
      Richar Urena*
      Edmundo Sosa*
      Dennis Santana*
      Edrian Borsen*
      Martin Dominguez*
      Jose Torrez*
      Jean Carlos Angomas*#


      Third base:

      Luis Castillo
      Kelvin Esteves
      Alberto Sanchez
      Joaquin De La Cruz
      Natanel Javier
      Neivi Pilier
      Leury Vargas
      Jose lara
      Julio Almonte*
      Johan Herrera*#^
      Juan Carlos Arias*

      Outfielders:

      Rafael Santana
      Natanel Delgado
      Luis Barrera
      Gustavo Cabrera
      Ronny Carbajal
      Jose Pujols
      Nelson Alvarez
      Darryl Florentino
      Yairos Veras
      Derian De Los Santos
      Johnny Rodriguez*
      Miguel Munoz *
      Luis Guzman*
      Michael Medina*
      Cristian Peguero*
      Ruber Castro*
      Michael De La Cruz*
      Lose De La Cruz*
      Lenon Herrera*#
      Manuel Sanchez*#
      Orlando Pasqual*#
      Luis Payano*
      Elias Arias*
      Euri Minaya


      First baseman:

      Leury Vargas*
      Emmanuel Tapia*
      Luis Montero*


      Catchers:

      Deivi Grillon
      Angel Battista
      Oliver Toribio*
      Joel Gonzalez*
      Yeuris Felipe*
      Joan Carrasquel*
      Randy Vasquez*
      Miguel Guzman*#

      Pitchers:

      Staylin Tejada
      Michael Arias
      Crucito Mieses
      Geremia Espinoza
      Jose Mateo
      Winder Novas
      Patterson Seguras
      Edwin Ferreira*
      Alvaro Castillo*
      Jean Carlos Mejias*
      Alberto Uceta*
      Bienvenido Morales* (LHP)
      Jesus Brea RHP*
      Issac Moncion RHP*
      Daniel Ridriguez LHP*#
      Juan Segura RHP*#
      Anthony Bazora LHP*#
      Moises Facha RHP*#
      Junior Garcia RHP*#
      Dalice Brailor Lorenzo RHP*#
      Edward Perez*
      Luis Valdez*

      *Names added to the original list.
      # Player will be 17 yrs at July second signing period
      ^ Player made this list in 2011
      Last edited by scaffolds; 04-23-2012, 06:34 PM.

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      • #4
        Hey, Scaff, who do you think are the most interesting players to follow (say, your personal top 10)? And what do you think will the effect of the new CBA rules be on the international draft?
        Watching Derek Jeter make 40 defensive plays and then watching Adam Everett make 40 defensive plays at the same position is sort of like watching video of Barbara Bush dancing at the White House, and then watching Demi Moore dancing in Striptease. (Bill James)

        Dustin Pedroia doesn't have the strength or bat speed to hit major-league pitching consistently, and he has no power. If he can continue to hit .260 or so, he'll be useful, and he probably has a future as a backup infielder. (Keith Law)

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Therwil Flyer View Post
          Hey, Scaff, who do you think are the most interesting players to follow (say, your personal top 10)? And what do you think will the effect of the new CBA rules be on the international draft?
          Well is still early to make a list, but the Venezuelan list is in the order that i rank them, as for the Dominican prospects I like thethe third basemans Castillo, Esteves and Sanchez, the catcher Grillon and the short stop Baez, there isn't (yet) in the Dominican that i am really high on.

          As far how the new the new CBA rules will affect the International signing no one knows for sure, but i can tell you no one likes it. It will be interesting to see how organizations (specially the Red Sox) handles (take more chances in signings) before July second date.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Therwil Flyer View Post
            Talking about the 2012-2013 international signing period, one should keep in mind that under the new CBA there will be a spending cap of $2.9m per team. Teams that go over that limit are fined a 100% tax on any dollar spent above the threshold and not be allowed to sign an international player for more than$0.25m the following year.

            Any international player signed before July, 2nd 2012 does not fall under the new CBA (i.e. Cespedes, Soler etc. can be signed for whatever contract a team is willing to give out).
            According to International scouts the Sox aren't going to big time players in the Cespedes chasing, however they could be in the Soler and 19 yrs LHP Omar Luis.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Therwil Flyer View Post
              Talking about the 2012-2013 international signing period, one should keep in mind that under the new CBA there will be a spending cap of $2.9m per team. Teams that go over that limit are fined a 100% tax on any dollar spent above the threshold and not be allowed to sign an international player for more than$0.25m the following year.

              Any international player signed before July, 2nd 2012 does not fall under the new CBA (i.e. Cespedes, Soler etc. can be signed for whatever contract a team is willing to give out).
              Will these rules (2.9m per team) hurt international Latin baseball?

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Richard View Post
                Will these rules (2.9m per team) hurt international Latin baseball?
                Without a doubt it will.

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                • #9
                  The DPL is reporting that the Royals have signed Dominican Sandy Garces. Garces 6-1 175 and 17 yrs have been a outfielder with a very strong arm until 2011 when was switched to mound. As a pitcher Garces has showed a 87-91 fastball.

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                  • #10
                    The DPL is reporting that the Mariners have signed Dominican Oliver Ascencio. Ascencio who will be 19 yrs in the next few day is 6-3 175, a light hitting outfielder until recently now a LHP with a fastball in the 88-92. Ascencio is often compare to Red Sox farmhand Francisco Taveras.

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                    • #11
                      According to the DPL the Astros have signed Dominican RHP Tomas Lopez for a $70,000 bonus. Lopez has a fastball in the 90-92 range.

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                      • #12
                        In one of the last post in the 2011 International scouting and signing thread I mentioned that baseball in Puerto Rico is making a come back and 2012 is a sign of that as it has a very good good of prospects for the MLB draft. A group headed by Short stop Carlos Correa who has the possibility of getting drafted in the first round, short stop Jesmuel Valentin Diaz and RHP Edwin Diaz. Diaz and Valentin Diaz are considered among the top 50 H.S.for the 2012 class, is very projectable with a easy arm with a fastball in the 93 range that reaches 95.

                        Other of notes:

                        Malcon Diaz RHP 6-3 177 with a fastball that tops at 93
                        Jose Berrios RHP 6-1 185 with a fastball that tops at 93
                        Joe Alexander Jimenez RHP 6-3 220 with a fastball that tops out at 92.
                        Roberto Garcia RHP 6-3 180 with a fastball at 91
                        Jose Diaz LHP 6-2 180 with a fastball at 90
                        Jesus Vasquez RHP 6-1 200 with a fastball at 88
                        Kristian Britto RHP/1B 6-5 210
                        Rey Perez RHP/SS
                        Wilfredo Rodriguez C
                        Bryan De La Rosa C
                        Christian Munoz C/1B
                        Jorge Fernandez C
                        Jose Ortiz C
                        Tomas Nido C
                        Janius Castro 2B
                        Ariel Estades OF
                        Ismael Sanchez SS
                        Angel Ortega SS

                        This group of Puerto Rican prospects are considered perhaps the strongest one since Puerto Rico became part of the MLB draft with 8 of them perhaps going in the top 3 rounds, 12 among the top sixth round and 20 among the top 10 round. The group is considered very strong among catchers (top area in this draft for catchers) strong among pitchers and middle infielders and weak in the outfield.
                        Last edited by scaffolds; 01-11-2012, 07:52 PM.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by scaffolds View Post
                          Without a doubt it will.
                          [Originally Posted by Richard--Will these rules (2.9m per team) hurt international Latin baseball?]

                          Will it? How will the new cap on spending make things much different than they were about 10 years ago? Would a return to the signing bonuses 10 years ago really be that negative?
                          Last edited by AZBlue; 01-13-2012, 08:28 AM. Reason: Corrected to fix wrong word

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by AZBlue View Post
                            [Originally Posted by Richard--Will these rules (2.9m per team) hurt international Latin baseball?]

                            Will it? How are the new cap on spending make things much different than they were about 10 years ago? Would a return to the signing bonuses 10 years ago really be that negative?
                            Well, let me put it this way the players in these poor countries will be there, they won't be able to make anywhere close this kind of money doing anything else, but the good trainers who have been developing these players and have made very good money threw the last few years might not, also the agents who have been show casing these players for MLB will be forced to cut back. So the new rules will affect International scouting what needs to be seen is how much.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by scaffolds View Post
                              In one of the last post in the 2011 International scouting and signing thread I mentioned that baseball in Puerto Rico is making a come back and 2012 is a sign of that as it has a very good good of prospects for the MLB draft. A group headed by Short stop Carlos Correa who has the possibility of getting drafted in the first round and RHP Edwin Diaz. Diaz is considered among the top 50 H.S.for the 2012 class, is very projectable with a easy arm with a fastball in the 93 range that reaches 95.

                              Other of notes:

                              Malcon Diaz RHP 6-3 177 with a fastball that tops at 93
                              Jose Berrios RHP 6-1 185 with a fastball that tops at 93
                              Joe Alexander Jimenez RHP 6-3 220 with a fastball that tops out at 92.
                              Roberto Garcia RHP 6-3 180 with a fastball at 91
                              Jose Diaz LHP 6-2 180 with a fastball at 90
                              Jesus Vasquez RHP 6-1 200 with a fastball at 88
                              Kristian Britto RHP/1B
                              Wilfredo Rodriguez C
                              Bryan De La Rosa C
                              Christia Munoz C/1B
                              Also, Baez and Lindor (first rounders) are Puerto Rican and Eddie Rosario who is an excellent prospect for the Twins.

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