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  • 2012 Red Sox Season Thread

    Finally!

    The season starts tonight. Stats begin to count and will be in the books for eternity. Away with those meaningless ST games.

    I really don't know what place the Red Sox will end. It could be first, it could be third, it could be in between and they could make the postseason either way.

    What do you guys think?

    P.S how can we make the thread sticky?
    Last edited by SwissRedSoxFan; 04-04-2012, 12:08 PM.
    I know you're watching, Si. Bu.

  • #2
    With less than 24 hours before the Red Sox starts their 2012 season everyone is making their preditions and i will make my for the Sox, a predition as a fan and not like a fanatic one. of the contending teams Boston has the most question marks and perhaps more than before after Spring training mainly because of injuries, the questions of the starting staffs, relievers. the defense in the left side of the infield, the production in the corners of the outfield, ther still some concern about it catchers and not the least one the rapidly aging Kevin Youkilis. In conclusion the Red Sox will be out of the playoff for the third year in a row and finish in fourth place only ahead of the Orioles in AL East when the season finish at the end of September.

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    • #3
      This is a good team. pitching is a little shaky but great offense.

      the team will make the playoffs. second place about 4-5 games behind the yankees.
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      • #4
        The 2012 Red Sox will shock the world! They'll win the AL East with a 3 game lead over the Yankees and will go on to the ALCS where they unfortunately will lose against Detroit. The Blue Jays by the way will finish 3rd ahead of TB and the O's in the AL East.

        Cody Ross and Mike Aviles will be the big surprises for the the Red Sox. Ryan Lavarnway will be called up for good sometime after the All star break and will play a big role in the Sox reaching the postseason.

        Let's get this season going!!!
        Watching Derek Jeter make 40 defensive plays and then watching Adam Everett make 40 defensive plays at the same position is sort of like watching video of Barbara Bush dancing at the White House, and then watching Demi Moore dancing in Striptease. (Bill James)

        Dustin Pedroia doesn't have the strength or bat speed to hit major-league pitching consistently, and he has no power. If he can continue to hit .260 or so, he'll be useful, and he probably has a future as a backup infielder. (Keith Law)

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        • #5
          we will win 97 games for 2nd in the division. Looking forward to the season!

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          • #6
            Can't believe that glass slipper Andrew Bailey is already on the shelf!!!

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            • #7
              Originally posted by scaffolds View Post
              With less than 24 hours before the Red Sox starts their 2012 season everyone is making their preditions and i will make my for the Sox, a predition as a fan and not like a fanatic one. of the contending teams Boston has the most question marks and perhaps more than before after Spring training mainly because of injuries, the questions of the starting staffs, relievers. the defense in the left side of the infield, the production in the corners of the outfield, ther still some concern about it catchers and not the least one the rapidly aging Kevin Youkilis. In conclusion the Red Sox will be out of the playoff for the third year in a row and finish in fourth place only ahead of the Orioles in AL East when the season finish at the end of September.
              I could've written your prediction for you. Was too obvious that you would say 4th place. Look at the rotation of Toronto and their bullpen, then look me in the eyes and tell me they have the better pitching staff. Besides: The Red Sox have the best offense in the world, so we don't have to talk about that.
              I know you're watching, Si. Bu.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by SwissRedSoxFan View Post
                I could've written your prediction for you. Was too obvious that you would say 4th place. Look at the rotation of Toronto and their bullpen, then look me in the eyes and tell me they have the better pitching staff. Besides: The Red Sox have the best offense in the world, so we don't have to talk about that.
                First you aren't a bigger Red Sox fan than i am, just that i am not a a fantic like you are, if you really believe that the Red Sox offense is that great we don't have a conversation, because isn't.

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                • #9
                  I believe the Sox will make the playoffs.

                  As Swiss said, in 2011 we had the best offense in MLB, I think we will again in 2012.

                  Replacing Lackey and Wakefield with Doubrant and Bard will be an improvement imo.

                  We have improved offensively in RF, consider the Sox right fielders combined to hit .233/.299/.353 with an OPS of .652 in 2011. Our new right fielders both hit better in 2011 and platooning this year should add even more offense.

                  I’m optimistic Crawford will hit better then last year and play better defense as well.

                  At shortstop, I’m speculating that Aviles will hit slightly better and play better defense then Scutaro.

                  We have a healthy Youkilis who should hit much better then last year and probably play better defense as well provided he remains healthy.

                  I also believe we improved slighty both offensively and defensively at catcher, though probably downgraded in the game calling. Since some pitchers like Beckett appeared to rely on Tek for calling pitches, though I’m not sure how much, it remains to be seen how this will affect his and other pitchers performances in 2012, my guess is it won’t affect them much if at all.

                  So the only area where the Sox appear much weaker then last year is in the pen, but imo it’s not that much weaker that it will affect our chance at making the playoffs.

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                  • #10
                    I am cautiously optimistic. I think this team will win 90 games. Not sure that will be enough to win the division, but hopefully it will get us into the expanded playoffs.
                    "I believe in the Church of Baseball. I tried all the major religions and most of the minor ones. I've worshipped Buddha, Allah, Brahma, Vishnu, Siva, trees, mushrooms and Isadora Duncan. I know things. For instance, there are 108 beads in a Catholic rosary and there are 108 stitches in a baseball. When I learned that, I gave Jesus a chance." ~Ron Shelton, from Bull Durham

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by maximum jack View Post
                      I am cautiously optimistic. I think this team will win 90 games. Not sure that will be enough to win the division, but hopefully it will get us into the expanded playoffs.
                      I'm with you on the "cautiously optimistic". 90 wins is a good goal...they won that last year despite two awful months. The AL is stronger this year than last, but the Sox have a chance to be better, as well.

                      If a few things go right (bullpen, Bard/Doubront, OF corners) they could be a bit better. If they have a lot of injury issues, it could go a bit worse.

                      Of course, when talking about injuries, you can say that about any team at any time.
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by scaffolds View Post
                        First you aren't a bigger Red Sox fan than i am, just that i am not a a fantic like you are, if you really believe that the Red Sox offense is that great we don't have a conversation, because isn't.
                        So let me get this straight: The Red Sox pitching is bad because...see 2011. The Red Sox offense is not that good because, you know, 2011 wasn't representative for their true value? Mmmmhhhh...

                        I'm not a fantatic Red Sox fan, I just think you are always very pessimistic about things. Things that look good are not that positive and things that look bad are really bad. The way I see it, there are always going to be injuries and bad seasons from some players. But if you look at the lineup, the Red Sox were the best offense in baseball without adequate RF and LF production. Period. So I'm very optimistic that the Red Sox will be top 5 again. And as Dogdaze said, replacing Lackey/Weiland/Wakefield etc. with Bard and Doubront etc. should be an improvement. I don't know how much, but it should. Oh yeah and Buchholz is back again. Plus the Red Sox were the best team in the AL at the end of August 2011. Things were really good and the individual stats show it. Such a collapse is something that happens very seldomly. So if the Red Sox are exactly the same in 2011 until August and then through September, the other teams can pack it up.

                        And because you said Toronto will be better than the Red Sox, let's compare:

                        Rotation:

                        Lester
                        Beckett
                        Buchholz
                        Doubront
                        Bard

                        vs.

                        Romero
                        Morrow
                        Alvarez
                        Drabek
                        Carreno

                        lineups:

                        Ellsbury
                        Pedroia
                        Gonzalez
                        Youkilis
                        Ortiz
                        Ross/Sweeney
                        Crawford
                        Saltalamacchia/Shoppach
                        Aviles

                        vs.

                        Escobar
                        Johnson
                        Bautista
                        Lawrie
                        Lind
                        Rasmus
                        Arencibia
                        Encarnacion
                        Thames

                        Bullpen:

                        Bailey (he is in there because you said it before he was injured)
                        Melancon
                        Aceves
                        Albers
                        Morales
                        Padilla
                        Bowden

                        vs.

                        Santos
                        Cordero
                        Oliver
                        Frasor
                        Janssen
                        Villanueva
                        Perez

                        There are always surprises and you never know who will have injuries. The Blue Jays are on the rise, no doubt. Their farm system is terrific, but their time is not now. On paper the Red Sox are pretty clearly better than Toronto. Except for the bullpen. So I would still say, that the Red Sox should endure important injuries or improbable bad seasons from key players to be surpassed by Toronto.
                        I know you're watching, Si. Bu.

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                        • #13
                          I think it's pretty clear that 90 wins might not cut it, though perhaps with the new playoff format it will. Maybe it's because of the bad taste in my mouth from last season that still lingers, but I'm not overly optimistic about this season.

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                          • #14
                            Season Opener! Who cares about 2011? Let's go Jon! LET'S GO SOX!!!
                            Watching Derek Jeter make 40 defensive plays and then watching Adam Everett make 40 defensive plays at the same position is sort of like watching video of Barbara Bush dancing at the White House, and then watching Demi Moore dancing in Striptease. (Bill James)

                            Dustin Pedroia doesn't have the strength or bat speed to hit major-league pitching consistently, and he has no power. If he can continue to hit .260 or so, he'll be useful, and he probably has a future as a backup infielder. (Keith Law)

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Therwil Flyer View Post
                              Season Opener! Who cares about 2011? Let's go Jon! LET'S GO SOX!!!
                              Talk about diving right into the fire, too...facing the reigning MVP and his improved team!
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