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    Well, this year has been a complete disaster so far.

    Moncada is striking out in almost half his at-bats, our starting rotation is 1-9 with a 5.6 ERA, 3 of our 5 starting pitchers have allowed more walks than hits, our offense is anemic, we reacquired Trayce Thompson (who was a defensive butcher in the field when he was with us last time), and worst of all Danny Farquhar is in critical shape after having a brain hemorrhage. What a terrible start to the year.
    I don't know what I <3 more Yoan Moncada's batting approach or Jose Abreu's defense.

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  • #2
    Plus less than 1000 people showed up for a game, which got (undeserved) national publicity.

    Former White Sock Todd Frazier is playing third for the Mets. So far, he strikes out a lot, but gets some big hits too. And I'm really impressed with his defense.
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    • #3
      Originally posted by ol' aches and pains View Post
      Plus less than 1000 people showed up for a game, which got (undeserved) national publicity.

      Former White Sock Todd Frazier is playing third for the Mets. So far, he strikes out a lot, but gets some big hits too. And I'm really impressed with his defense.
      I said the same thing about Frazier's defense last year. He'd be a great player if he could just swing and connect with the ball more frequently.


      I'm really disappointed with Moncada's baseball IQ. He seems not to know what to do on the field.

      Terrible day again yesterday. It is going to be a very long season.
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      • #4
        Another terrible couple of days, 3-2 losses. Two days ago we had a 2-1 lead going into the bottom of the 9th and then Joakim Soria had his second very bad blown save of the season. Two terrible losses directly attributed to him. Sigh. I'll be watching him closely, but he's not been impressive. I'm keeping an eye on him.

        On the positive side, Abreu, Moncada and Davidson all rank in the league leaders in exit velocity off the bat, which is great. MAYBE Moncada can be a great player - but he's really going to have to master his whiffs first. In the long run, he's not going to have an MLB career with a 43% strikeout rate.

        Avisail Garcia is back closer to his true skill level. As I said last year, I think what he did was a fluke. His 0.233/0.250/0.315 line reminds us all of his first three years with the White Sox. We should have traded him in the off season. At best, he'll top out as Carlos Quentin. At best.
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        • #5
          Toledo, is Harold Baines still employed by the White Sox? When I left the area in 2010, he was the first base coach, but I know Darrel Boston replaced him there a few years ago.
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          • #6
            Originally posted by ol' aches and pains View Post
            Toledo, is Harold Baines still employed by the White Sox? When I left the area in 2010, he was the first base coach, but I know Darrel Boston replaced him there a few years ago.
            He is now an ambassador (which for the White Sox can mean anything, but mostly it is for PR at events and stuff like that). It's a great gig.

            He was a bench coach in 2005 (maybe a bit before that too). After the World Series he moved first base coach through 2012, and then went to be assistant hitting coach through 2016. I never figured out why he wasn't given the full job - too soft spoken? I've never understood the whole Todd Steverson experience as hitting coach. He definitely didn't deliver...

            I think Baines had enough of being the #2 hitting guy...or just got tired of being on the road.
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            • #7
              Thanks, I'm glad he's got a gig.
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              • #8
                Originally posted by ol' aches and pains View Post
                Thanks, I'm glad he's got a gig.
                An important aspect of the White Sox is that they usually are quite good to their retired players, and many of them rejoin the team. Carlton Fisk is the notable exception since the Reinsdorf/Einhorn regime started. Off the top of my head, all of these former players have had Sox jobs post-playing career.

                Darrin Jackson, Ed Farmer, Steve Stone, Greg Walker, Tim Raines, Darryl Boston, Ozzie Guillen, Ron Kittle, Tom Paciorek, Jim Thome, Joey Cora, Harold Baines, Bill Melton, Robin Ventura, Kenny Williams, Spanky Squires, Chris Singleton, Don Pall, and Kevin Hickey. I'm sure there are more, but those pop into my mind.


                I've included media guys too because while some may not be directly employed by the White Sox, they have de facto refusal rights if they don't want that player around the team.
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                • #9
                  Losing with young talent is one thing, but most of these younglings have no talent. It takes a strong stomach to watch the White Sox this year.
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                  • #10
                    @Toledo,
                    Can you give me a scouting report on relief pitcher Chris Beck, who the Mets just picked up on waivers from the Sox? His Baseball Reference stats aren't very encouraging, but given the current state of the Mets' bullpen, I'm hoping for some improvement from somewhere.
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by ol' aches and pains View Post
                      @Toledo,
                      Can you give me a scouting report on relief pitcher Chris Beck, who the Mets just picked up on waivers from the Sox? His Baseball Reference stats aren't very encouraging, but given the current state of the Mets' bullpen, I'm hoping for some improvement from somewhere.
                      Chris Beck gives up a lot of homers and a lot of walks. He's a bit frustrating to watch...in my opinion he is just a journeyman or a "guy" who happens to be in your bullpen. I'd be surprised if he is on any team for more than two years. Maybe he'll turn it around for the Mets, but he hasn't made much of a positive impression around here.

                      Though when brought in during the middle of an inning, he seemed to be a bit better (as opposed to starting the inning). He didn't let in too many inherited runners, so there is that.
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                      • #12
                        Moncada looks terrible out there. He could really use some minor league at-bats, but no way the Sox are going to do that. It helped Dylan Covey last year to now, so it should be considered. But the publicity will look bad if they admit he needs to work on his swing.

                        Covey looks like he could be a keeper. The sample size is small, but he's only thrown one long one so far in 40 innings. Keep that ball down, and good things happen.

                        James Big Loss Shields is back to his normal terrible pitching. From what I've been told, he's a real good guy in person. At least he has that, because he is done as a pitcher. He'll be gone after this year- Sox won't be bringing him back at $16 million per year...he'll be bought out for $2 million.

                        Omar Narvaez is lost behind the plate with the basic concepts of how to catch. His pitch calling has to be better than his physical skills, because they can't be much worse and still be in the big leagues.

                        Tim Anderson may have plateaued. Low BA, low OBP, good baserunner, average glove, 15-20 HR power in a normal year.
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                        • #13
                          Kudos James Shields! I've ripped you many a time when you deserved it, but 7 innings of shutout ball tonight! Well done!

                          Ricky Renteria should have left you in for the complete game though.
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                          • #14
                            Sigh.

                            Kopech out for all next year with Tommy John surgery; well, that will test his dedication if nothing else.

                            Jose Abreu has been out with a twisted testicle surgery. Yikes.

                            Eloy Jimenez won't be up until next year at least.

                            Yoan Moncada is at 191 whiffs and Ricky Renteria isn't concerned.

                            Lucas Giolito and Dylan Covey both with 5.5-6.0 ERAs.


                            Wow.
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                            • #15
                              So I don't lose it, a repeat of a Current events post. : In a season of misery, a feel good story for the White Sox.


                              The White Sox have called up Rob Scahill, a local guy (from my hometown!) who grew up a White Sox fan and still lives in the area one town over. He's bounced around the minors to majors for 5 years, and at age 31 is playing for his beloved Pale Hose in the silver and black.

                              Good for him! Hopefully Rob can rock it and stay with the Sox for the next five years!



                              http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports...908-story.html

                              Needing an arm to replace Michael Kopech, the White Sox decided to bring Rob Scahill home to Chicago. They purchased the contract of the 31-year-old veteran off the Triple-A Charlotte roster to add depth to the pitching staff.

                              Scahill, 31, was 3-4 with a 5.64 ERA and five saves in 52 appearances for Charlotte. He is a native of Lombard who attended Willowbrook High School and Bradley University, and lives in Villa Park.

                              Scahill has made 118 big-league appearances with the Rockies, Pirates and Brewers, going 5-7 with a 3.79 ERA.

                              Kopech was placed on the 60-day disabled list with an ulnar collateral ligament sprain in the right elbow. The Sox originally called the injury a torn ligament. He will receive a second opinion on the injury next week but is expected to need an elbow reconstruction, which would cause him to miss next season.




                              http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports...305-story.html


                              On the night of Oct. 26, 2005, Rob Scahill bolted through the door of his Bradley University dorm room and ran up and down the hall hooting and hollering.

                              The freshman on the baseball team was celebrating the World Series championship of his favorite childhood team, the White Sox.

                              “People were like, ‘What’s going on?’” Scahill recalled. “But they weren’t too concerned — it’s a dorm, so you see some strange things at night.”

                              A welcome sight for Scahill these days is the Sox uniform he’s wearing in spring training.
                              “Not a lot of people get an opportunity to play for the team that they grew up rooting for,” Scahill said. “It’s definitely not lost on me.”

                              The 31-year-old right-hander grew up and still lives in Villa Park and graduated from Willowbrook High School, where he was a three-sport athlete, also playing football and basketball. As a kid, he had a Frank Thomas poster on his bedroom wall.

                              So when the rebuilding Sox were among the teams he spoke with while searching for a minor-league contract, it was an ideal landing spot. He signed Jan. 22 and has been grinning ever since.

                              “I talked to a good amount of teams going through the minor-league free-agency process,” Scahill said, “but in the end I felt like coming here was the best opportunity to get to play for the team I grew up rooting for and also have an opportunity to make the team.”
                              Scahill is among a group of veterans general manager Rick Hahn brought in to compete for spots in the bullpen, and he’s building a case for himself. Scahill has appeared in three Cactus League games and is 2-0 with a 1.59 ERA and six strikeouts in 5 2/3 innings. He is scheduled to pitch again Tuesday against the Brewers.

                              “Rob is doing very, very well,” manager Rick Renteria said. “He’s starting to work on trying to use backdoor breaking balls to lefties, trying to command that and being able to own it a little bit more, working inside a little bit more. He’s continued to hammer the strike zone, (and) hopefully as he continues to develop his execution on pitches on both sides of the plate, he’ll at least give himself a chance to be able to handle both lefties and righties.”

                              While he doesn’t have overpowering stuff, Scahill knows how to pitch and has a 5-7 record with a 3.79 ERA in six seasons with the Rockies, Pirates and Brewers. He was 1-3 with a 4.43 ERA in 22 1/3 innings for the Brewers last year, splitting time between Milwaukee and Triple-A Colorado Springs.

                              “What I do well is keep the ball down and get ground balls,” said Scahill, who was drafted by the Rockies in the eighth round in 2009 and made his big-league debut Sept. 11, 2012. “I just have to keep attacking the zone and letting the defense work. There is an opportunity here to make the team. I just need to do what I do well and make the decision as hard as I can for them.”

                              If Scahill doesn’t make the opening-day roster, he is prepared to head to Triple-A Charlotte and continue his quest to play for his hometown team.

                              “There are revolving goals,” Scahill said. “You set a goal right now, and mine is to make this team out of camp. And if that doesn’t happen, I’ll go to Charlotte and do my best there and hopefully get an opportunity at some point.”

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