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  • Ozzie Guillen Goes Postal

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    We won it a couple years ago, and we're
    horse[bleep]. The Cubs haven't won in
    [100] years, and they're the [bleeping]
    best. [Bleep] it, we're good. [Bleep]
    everybody. We're horse[bleep], and
    we're going to be horse[bleep] the
    rest of our lives, no matter how many
    World Series we win.

    --Ozzie Guillen
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    Ozzie's blue side comes out in pregame tirade
    ESPN.com news services


    If this was the pregame interview, what could Ozzie Guillen possibly have said after the Chicago White Sox lost again Sunday?

    Guillen unleashed his verbal wrath before the White Sox faced the Blue Jays in Toronto, after having been asked a humorous question about a minor leaguer's recent performance and his chance at cracking the White Sox lineup.

    That apparently was all it took. Guillen's profanity-laden stream of consciousness touched on Cubs fans, White Sox fans, the media, Lee Elia, and himself.

    "Right now everyone in Chicago is making lineups -- 'Call up this guy, call up that guy.' ... If we had 50 people allowed on the roster, we could do that. That's what ticks me off about Chicago fans and Chicago media: They forget pretty quickly. A couple of days ago we were the [bleeping] best [stuff] in town. Now we're [bleep]," Guillen said to the aforementioned Chicago media before the game.

    Guillen observed that Chicago still loved the Cubs, even though they have not won a World Series since 1908, but the White Sox -- winners of the 2005 World Series -- did not receive the same affectionate support.

    "We won it a couple years ago, and we're horse[bleep]," Guillen said, according to the Chicago Tribune. "The Cubs haven't won in [100] years, and they're the [bleeping] best. [Bleep] it, we're good. [Bleep] everybody. We're horse[bleep], and we're going to be horse[bleep] the rest of our lives, no matter how many World Series we win.

    "We are the [bleep] of Chicago. We're the Chicago [bleep]. We have the worst owner [Jerry Reinsdorf]. The guy's got seven [bleeping] rings, and he's the [bleeping] horse[bleep] owner."

    Guillen brought up Elia, the former Cubs manager who blew his gasket over what he considered to be ungrateful, unforgiving and unsupportive Cubs fans in an infamous tirade that recently marked its 25th anniversary.

    "How about the Cubs celebrating that Lee Elia bull[bleep]? How many times do I curse people out? I will make a lot of money with my [stuff]. I have to keep going because in the future Ozzie will need money, and I can say, 'Here, give me money, here's the 10-year anniversary of my time I called [Jay] Mariotti stuff and the time I went on the radio and cursed out Mike North,' " Guillen said.

    The North incident Guillen referred to is from mid-May 2007, when Guillen called in to North's Chicago radio show and the two got into a spat (with Guillen providing most of the profanity). And in June 2006, Guillen lashed out at Mariotti -- a columnist with the Chicago Sun-Times and frequent contributor to ESPN's "Around the Horn" -- and referred to Mariotti using a homophobic slur.

    The White Sox had been in first place in their division from April 15 until Saturday night, but are on a five-game losing streak and now 1½ games behind the Minnesota Twins.

    "People are panicking," Guillen said. "Did we play a real bad week? Yes, we did, we stunk. But it wasn't too long ago that we were 'the biggest surprise in baseball, wow, look at the White Sox.' "



    http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3382020

  • #2
    It's refresing to see a manager act & react like a normal person. Baseball has become so button down & corporate. It's only a game. He's not performing surgery on your mother, he's not the Archbishop of Chicago. Give me a 'character' any day. Enjoy him while you can, he's a vanishing breed.
    (Will Wally Backman ever get another shot ?)

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    • #3
      To paraphrase a common baseball saying, "It is Ozzie being Ozzie". Sure Ozzie is blue and crude, but so what. He's a stand-up guy.
      Buck O'Neil: The Monarch of Baseball

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      • #4
        i love Ozzies tirades ( especially those aimed at Jay Mariotti )
        BALLGAME OVER, YANKEES WIN...THEEEEEEEEEEEE YANKEES WIN
        “You wouldn't have won if we'd beaten you.”

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        • #5
          Ozzie is a ******* and I can't wait until he's out of town.

          I can't wait to see Alexei Ramirez in the field and Brian Anderson getting splinters in his ass.



          Really.


          This manager is not capable of dealing with a team that can't get out of a funk.


          We're having the same problems this year as we had last year. I don't care about the good start we had, Ozzie and Greg Walker have done their brainwashing and convinced everyone that the only way to get on base is go yard.


          :grouchy:grouchy:grouchy

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          • #6
            I will say this about Ozzie:

            He doesn't shy away from taking center stage. Some of his rants are nonsense and he can't back it up, but you know what?, maybe his good rants are quite refreshing to listen to, because I can't stand certain players/coaches who look like they could be voicing their opinions, but don't.

            The White Sox have had more success recently, but the Cubs are the toast of the town. Period. They're more popular and they're more beloved in Chicago than the White Sox. That's all there is to it. I just find Ozzie amusing sometimes because he can provide good humor that can last for days.
            My Top 4 funniest BBF posts ever:

            1) "plZ dOn;t' pOsT LikE tHIs n e mOr!"

            2) "The teams play 1962 games in 180 days."

            3) "Stadiums don't move silly, people do."

            4) "Once again you quibble, because it is I who speaks."

            5) Almost anything RuthMayBond says...

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            • #7
              It's not funny. He's a damn laughing-stock.


              I don't get why my team has to try and go head to head with the media and the damn cubs like this.


              Wait until this homestand


              I bet sox won't draw more than 25k per game.


              If they say they got more then they're ******* lying.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Yoda View Post
                Ozzie is a ******* and I can't wait until he's out of town.

                I can't wait to see Alexei Ramirez in the field and Brian Anderson getting splinters in his ass.



                Really.


                This manager is not capable of dealing with a team that can't get out of a funk.


                We're having the same problems this year as we had last year. I don't care about the good start we had, Ozzie and Greg Walker have done their brainwashing and convinced everyone that the only way to get on base is go yard.


                :grouchy:grouchy:grouchy
                oh how fickle some Sox fans are...dont forget who gave you your first championship in 88 years....the problem with Chicago is its all about a pack of losers on the North Side ( Gawd i hate the Flubs )
                BALLGAME OVER, YANKEES WIN...THEEEEEEEEEEEE YANKEES WIN
                “You wouldn't have won if we'd beaten you.”

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Knick9 View Post
                  I will say this about Ozzie:

                  He doesn't shy away from taking center stage. Some of his rants are nonsense and he can't back it up, but you know what?, maybe his good rants are quite refreshing to listen to, because I can't stand certain players/coaches who look like they could be voicing their opinions, but don't.

                  The White Sox have had more success recently, but the Cubs are the toast of the town. Period. They're more popular and they're more beloved in Chicago than the White Sox. That's all there is to it. I just find Ozzie amusing sometimes because he can provide good humor that can last for days.
                  the Flubs are more popular due to the locallity and the bar scene..they`re followed by a bunch of moronic college kids who go to Wrigley to drink...there are more WRIGLEY fans than TRUE Cubs fans..its the IN place to be whereas the Cell is stuck in Bridgeport..no bars, restaurants etc surrounding it...the Sox are for baseball fans, the Flubs for Chads & Trixies
                  BALLGAME OVER, YANKEES WIN...THEEEEEEEEEEEE YANKEES WIN
                  “You wouldn't have won if we'd beaten you.”

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by YankeeFanUK View Post
                    oh how fickle some Sox fans are...dont forget who gave you your first championship in 88 years....the problem with Chicago is its all about a pack of losers on the North Side ( Gawd i hate the Flubs )
                    That Championship had little to do with Ozzie.


                    Why we won:
                    Podsednik had a career year.
                    We got men on base for our sluggers
                    Dominating pitching staff.


                    Everyone did their damn job that year and that made Ozzie look smart. Truth be told when **** goes sour he can fill out a lineup card to save his life.

                    I'm not going to keep looking back to 2005 for the rest of my life.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Yoda View Post
                      That Championship had little to do with Ozzie.


                      Why we won:
                      Podsednik had a career year.
                      We got men on base for our sluggers
                      Dominating pitching staff.


                      Everyone did their damn job that year and that made Ozzie look smart. Truth be told when **** goes sour he can fill out a lineup card to save his life.

                      I'm not going to keep looking back to 2005 for the rest of my life.
                      and yet they called it OZZIE BALL....at least you can look back to 2005..Cubs fans have to look back to 1908....i think Ozzie Guillens a great guy..straight talker, does`nt take any bulls*it from the Cub lovin media of your city ( especially that pr*ck Marrioti ) and he tells it like it is...he might offend some people but those he upsets need to grow some thicker skin..or better still grow a pair
                      BALLGAME OVER, YANKEES WIN...THEEEEEEEEEEEE YANKEES WIN
                      “You wouldn't have won if we'd beaten you.”

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                      • #12
                        hell what ozzie said was damn true, every sox fan knows it and people all over the u.s. the cubs get credit for doing nothing. they had as many wins in the playoff's last year as the white sox did 0. before they brag they got in the playoffs last year at least win a damn game.

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                        • #13
                          Blowup Doll Scandal

                          White Sox deal with fallout from blowup doll prank

                          CHICAGO -- Coming off an 0-6 road trip when they managed just nine runs, the Chicago White Sox returned home Tuesday and were confronted with more questions about two female blowup dolls than they were about their shaky offense. Before Sunday's game in Toronto, an unnamed player positioned two nude blowup dolls in the clubhouse with bats of the players fanning out around them -- a ritual of sorts to try and get the team out of its slump.

                          Some found the shrine more tasteless than amusing. Manager Ozzie Guillen said it was a joke that has been blown out of proportion after it got play in the press. General manager Ken Williams, who had lunch Tuesday with Guillen, said he was disappointed by the display and was assured it wouldn't happen again.

                          "We have proactively tried to and just did so this spring training, organizationally, we brought in some people to discuss a better work environment whether it's gender issues or racial issues," Williams said. "And we had some very healthy discussions, so from that respect it is very disappointing. And I don't view this as a boys-being-boys type issue. This is, you know, boys being a little bit careless, a little bit irresponsible on this front."

                          Guillen, who went on a profanity-filled rant Sunday that also drew headlines around the country, said Tuesday he wouldn't apologize for the presence of the dolls because he didn't think his team did anything wrong inside its own clubhouse. "I don't think we tried to disrespect or hurt anybody's feelings. We just tried to have fun and to keep things loose. Obviously a lot of people took it the wrong way," Guillen said, adding he did not buy the dolls.

                          Guillen has a reputation for saying what he feels on a variety of topics and often getting in trouble for doing so. He was ordered to undergo sensitivity training in 2006 for a calling a Chicago sports columnist a deragatory name. This time, he said no one did anything to merit an apology.

                          "I'm not going to say I'm sorry. I don't know what to say. I can't come up with the words, because as soon as I say that, that means I'm guilty of something. I'm not. I'm not guilty. ... We just had a plastic thing sitting on a table and, wow, we're bad people," he said. "No one meant any harm by it. It was just kind of one of those things that just kind of happened. It wasn't meant to offend anybody," White Sox center fielder Nick Swisher said. "If anybody was offended by it, then I sincerely apologize."

                          Media access in baseball is the most liberal among the major sports.
                          "You kind of hear the old saying, 'Whatever happens in the clubhouse stays in the clubhouse.' Nowadays, with everything so accessible, I guess there is a place where we do have to understand that there is some things that may offend some people," Swisher said. "It is our home away from home. But we do have to understand some things cross the line."

                          Guillen's tirade -- in which he railed against the White Sox's lack of respect even though they just won a World Series three years ago -- was just part of the trying road trip to Minnesota and Toronto for a team that played well during the first month before faltering badly. Now he was dealing with another off-field issue Tuesday and he seemed to be tiring of it. The Chicago Sun-Times reported that Major League Baseball was looking into the doll incident.

                          "It's something I know it's part of my gig, I know it's part of my job to deal with all of this stuff, but I don't think it's worth it," Guillen said. "It's not. It's crazy."


                          http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3384651

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by erob3833 View Post
                            hell what ozzie said was damn true, every sox fan knows it and people all over the u.s. the cubs get credit for doing nothing. they had as many wins in the playoff's last year as the white sox did 0. before they brag they got in the playoffs last year at least win a damn game.
                            Who cares? The Cubs have nothing to do with us, and nothing to do with the WS winning. The Sox should be concerned with putting "W"s up and stop whining about things that cant be controlled. Want to draw more fans?? Then win! and keep winning.

                            This '08 team isn't going to win. Fundamentally its just not good enough to be a playoff contender and the Cubs organization has nothing to do with that. Kenny Williams is turning out to be as mediocre a GM as he was a player.
                            "Let me start by telling you this: I have never used steroids. Period. I don't know how to say it any more clearly than that. Never." :hyper:

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                            • #15
                              Ozzie needs a word-a-day calendar.

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