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I extend my condolences to you, my Cleveland friends. I really don't get this trade from a Cleveland standpoint, especially since it seemed dead in the water after Mota failed the physical. It seemed like Shapiro's better judgment prevailed, but in the end he still made the deal.
All I can say is that Cleveland must really, reallly want Marte, because on the face of this, Boston got the better end of the deal, especially since Riske is a better reliever than Mota. So Cleveland has not only hurt its roster for this year, but given the competition two siginficant upgrades for its major league roster. This is a head scratcher. I suppose if Marte turns into Mike Schmidt or Eddie Mathews, then we'll understand, but only time will tell that.
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Marte could prove to make this all worthwhile in the end for Cleveland, but I guess I don't understand tinkering too much with a team that looked the way the Indians were looking last season."Anything less would not have been worthy of me. Anything more would not have been possible." - Carl Yastrzemski
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I agree with you, Heck, from June 1st on, I believe they may have had the best record in the AL.
XX, I do have to disagree with you on one point: If Mota is healthy, I feel he is much better than Riske.I'm a Ramblin' Wreck from Georgia Tech and a Hell of an Engineer!
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Originally posted by sschirmerCan I possibly express to you guys how much I HATE this freaking trade?!?!:grouchy :grouchy :grouchy :grouchy
You guys will like this trade in a couple years."I think about baseball when I wake up in the morning. I think about it all day and I dream about it at night. The only time I don't think about it is when I'm playing it."
Carl Yastrzemski
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Originally posted by sschirmerI agree with you, Heck, from June 1st on, I believe they may have had the best record in the AL.
XX, I do have to disagree with you on one point: If Mota is healthy, I feel he is much better than Riske.
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I can't say I disagree with your knowledge of the numbers, as I had looked at that as well. I'm not sure if you guys have ever read the sports guy, but he has a way for measuring offensive players based on how terrified you are of them in clutch situations. To take that from a pitcher's perspective, well, let me just say I was terrified when Riske came into a clutch situation. I'm not sure how to quantify something like that, and it's something that really ticked off a former poster here, by the name of GONE. Sometimes I just have a feeling about certain guys. Riske scared the crap out of me, conversely, I'm very comfortable with Ronnie Belliard up in a clutch situation, I can't explain these things.I'm a Ramblin' Wreck from Georgia Tech and a Hell of an Engineer!
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Originally posted by sschirmerI can't say I disagree with your knowledge of the numbers, as I had looked at that as well. I'm not sure if you guys have ever read the sports guy, but he has a way for measuring offensive players based on how terrified you are of them in clutch situations. To take that from a pitcher's perspective, well, let me just say I was terrified when Riske came into a clutch situation. I'm not sure how to quantify something like that, and it's something that really ticked off a former poster here, by the name of GONE. Sometimes I just have a feeling about certain guys. Riske scared the crap out of me, conversely, I'm very comfortable with Ronnie Belliard up in a clutch situation, I can't explain these things.
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Marte should be the starting 3B in 2007. Might even get some start at 3B if Boone is really that bad. Marte is a move for the future, but the future will be here soon for Marte. If Marte become the big star everyone predict he will become, then you will look back at this trade and think what? Bad trade still?
Mota and Riske swap was in the Red Sox's advantage.
In turn, the swap for Shoppach and Bard is the Indians' advantage.
Jason Michaels was brought in to replace Crisp. What happen if he just replace Crisp's produce and in turn, also have the power of Marte on your team maybe next year. Still a bad trade? At this point, time will tell. I can't say which side got the better end of the deal until I see what happen.
What Marte will do? What will Coco do in Boston? What if Michaels replaces Crisp's production? A lot of questions that can't be answer. I can't give Boston the edge since Coco is expected to come in and replace Damon and help them right at this moment.
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I agree, Marte MAY end up being a steal. My only problem is this: Shapiro sold Indians fans on the fact that 2006 was going to be a big year, at least that's the impression I got from reading the paper last year. He almost made it sound like Tribe brass didn't plan on having some of the success they had last year, and that it came a year early. Does anyone else recall this? Now to go and sacrifice the here and now for someone who won't start, realistically, until 2007? I don't get the logic.I'm a Ramblin' Wreck from Georgia Tech and a Hell of an Engineer!
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Originally posted by EvangelionMarte should be the starting 3B in 2007. Might even get some start at 3B if Boone is really that bad. Marte is a move for the future, but the future will be here soon for Marte. If Marte become the big star everyone predict he will become, then you will look back at this trade and think what? Bad trade still?
Mota and Riske swap was in the Red Sox's advantage.
In turn, the swap for Shoppach and Bard is the Indians' advantage.
Jason Michaels was brought in to replace Crisp. What happen if he just replace Crisp's produce and in turn, also have the power of Marte on your team maybe next year. Still a bad trade? At this point, time will tell. I can't say which side got the better end of the deal until I see what happen.
What Marte will do? What will Coco do in Boston? What if Michaels replaces Crisp's production? A lot of questions that can't be answer. I can't give Boston the edge since Coco is expected to come in and replace Damon and help them right at this moment.
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