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    All-time Cleveland Indians team

    I said I would do it and here I am. What's your all time Cleveland Indians team? You can choose from 1915-present on who you think were the best players to wear an Indians uni in the careers. Now, I will include 1905-1914 with the Cleveland Naps. The all time Naps thread is a dud and will be shut down.

    Here's my all time team, commenting about it is free:

    1B: Mike Hargrove
    2B: Nap Lajoie
    3B: Ed Morgan
    SS: Lou Boudreau
    C: Sandy Alomar, Jr.
    LF: Jeff Heath
    CF: Kenny Lofton
    RF: Manny Ramirez
    Util: Omar Vizquel (SS) (#1 pinch hitter; Boudreau beats him out for SS for me)
    Jim Thome (1B) (the DH if allowed)
    Roy Weatherly (OF)
    Julio Franco (SS)
    Carlos Baerga (2B)
    Duane Kuiper (2B)
    "Shoeless" Joe Jackson (OF)



    SP: Bob Feller
    Charles Nagy
    Bob Lemon (shutouts)
    Early Wynn
    Mike Garcia

    RP/CP: Doug Jones (tons of saves)
    Willis Hudlin
    Paul Shuey
    Ed Klieman
    Sid Monge

    Manager: Mike Hargrove (he would be doing both managing and playing)
    Last edited by Knick9; 09-26-2006, 04:46 PM.
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  • #2
    Originally posted by Knick9
    I said I would do it and here I am. What's your all time Cleveland Indians team? You can choose from 1915-present on who you think were the best players to wear an Indians uni in the careers. Now, I will include 1905-1914 with the Cleveland Naps. The all time Naps thread is a dud and will be shut down.

    Here's my all time team, commenting about it is free:

    1B:Mike Hargrove
    2B:Nap Lajoie
    3B:Ed Morgan
    SS:Lou Boudreau
    C:Sandy Alomar, Jr.
    LF:Jeff Heath
    CF:Kenny Lofton
    RF:Manny Ramirez
    Util:Omar Vizquel (SS) (#1 pinch hitter; Boudreau beats him out for SS for me)
    Jim Thome (1B) (the DH if allowed)
    Roy Weatherly (OF)
    Julio Franco (SS)
    Carlos Baerga (2B)
    Duane Kuiper (2B)
    "Shoeless" Joe Jackson (OF)



    SP:Bob Feller
    Charles Nagy
    Bob Lemon (shutouts)
    Early Wynn
    Mike Garcia

    RP/CP: Doug Jones (tons of saves)
    Willis Hudlin
    Paul Shuey
    Ed Klieman
    Sid Monge

    Manager:Mike Hargrove (he would be doing both managing and playing)

    Ed Morgan was a first baseman. He played 18 games as a third-baseman.



    My all-time Indians team

    1B Jim Thome
    2B Bobby Avila (if you're including Naps then the all-time second baseman is Nap Lajoie
    SS Lou Boudreau
    3B Al Rosen
    LF Albert Belle
    CF Tris Speaker
    RF Manny Ramirez or Joe Jackson if Naps are included
    C Jim Hegan

    PH Joe Vosmik

    Pitchers
    Bob Feller
    Bob Lemon
    Early Wynn
    Mike Garcia
    Gaylord Perry

    Manager-Al Lopez
    Last edited by Guest; 04-03-2005, 01:12 AM. Reason: Adding Gaylord

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    • #3
      Starting Lineup
      1B:Hal Trosky
      2B:Nap Lajoie
      3B:Al Rosen
      SS:Joe Sewell
      LF:Albert Belle
      CF:Tris Speaker
      RF:Joe Jackson
      C: Steve O'Neill (Alomar was too injury prone to make a starter)
      DH: Manny Ramirez

      Bench
      Joe Vosmik (OF)
      Earl Averill (OF)
      Sandy Alomar (C)
      Jim Thome (1B & 3B)
      Omar Vizquel (SS)
      Roberto Alomar (2B)

      Starting Pitchers
      Jim Bagby, Sr.
      Stan Coveleski
      Bob Feller
      Mel Harder
      Bob Lemon

      Relief Pitchers
      Paul Assenmacher
      Doug Jones
      Jose Mesa (only as a setup man)
      Don Mossi
      Ray Narleski

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      • #4
        The Cleveland Naps are now known as the Cleveland Indians, it is the same franchise. The Cleveland (also known as the Bluebirds, the Blues, the Broncos) team has been around since 1901, and any all-time team MUST include 1901-1914 and through today. The Cleveland Spiders (known before as teh Cleveland Forest Citys that played Cincinatti in the first ever professional baseball game) was a National LEague team, but made way for the current franchise in the new Americal League (1901).

        The Spiders could have their own thread, but after Cy Young and Lou Sockalexis there wouldn't be much to talk about.


        My team:
        1B: Jim Thome
        2B: Nap Lajoie
        SS: Lou Boudreau (greatest Indian perhaps)
        3B: Al Rosen
        C: Sandy Alomar Jr.
        OF: Joe Jackson, Manny Ramirez, Albert Belle

        Bench/Honorable Mention: Omar Vizquel, Kenny Loften, Tris Speaker, Earl Averil, Robbie Alomar, Carlos Baerga, Eddie Murray

        Pitching:
        Bob Feller, Bob Lemon, Mel Harder, Early Wynn, Cy Young
        Bullpen: Doug Jones, Jose Mesa, Paul Shuey, Stan Coveleski
        Last edited by DaytonDogg; 04-02-2005, 02:27 PM.
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        • #5
          C Victor Martinez (thin list)
          1B Hal Trosky
          2B Nap Lajoie
          SS Lou Boudreau
          3B Al Rosen
          CF Tris Speaker
          RF Earl Averall
          LF Joe Jackson

          SP Bob Feller
          SP Addie Joss
          SP Wes Ferrell
          SP Bob Lemon
          SP Luis Tiant

          RP Doug Jones
          In the 1920's, Harry Heilmann led the AL with a .364 average. In addition, he averaged 220 hits, 45 doubles, 12 triples, 16 homers, 110 runs, and 130 RBI.

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          • #6
            Can a mod who is knowledgabke about Tndians history add a poll to this thread? Can you include the Naps players as well?

            I want the results for the All-Time position by position battle. I have a thread about it in the history forum if you're interested.
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            • #7
              Originally posted by Rickey_Henderson
              Can a mod who is knowledgabke about Tndians history add a poll to this thread? Can you include the Naps players as well?

              I want the results for the All-Time position by position battle. I have a thread about it in the history forum if you're interested.
              If no one else wants it. We're going by what they did in their Cleveland career not overall, right? You want a poll at each position?
              Last edited by RuthMayBond; 09-27-2006, 08:00 AM.
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              • #8
                Originally posted by RuthMayBond
                If no one else wants it. We're going by what they did in their Cleveland career not overall, right? You want a poll at each position?
                No, I have a similar thread in the Yankees forum and I would like the poll to be modeled on that.

                Base your votyes on what you want. I`m taking into consideration whjat they've done with other teams but mostly basing it on what they did with the team in question
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                • #9
                  My all time Tribe team is based on what a player did while with the Cleveland American League franchise between 1901 and 2006. This franchise went by the names of the Blues in 1901, the Broncos in 1902, the Naps from 1903-1914, and the Indians since 1915. IMO, it serves no useful purpose to divide the teams up by the nicknames they adopted in some seasons.

                  C - Mike Hegan
                  1B - Hal Trosky
                  2B - Nap Lajoie
                  3B - Ken Keltner
                  SS - Lou Boudreau
                  LF - Albert Belle
                  CF - Tris Speaker
                  RF - Manny Ramirez
                  DH - Travis Hafner

                  Bench - Earl Averill, Sandy Alomar Jr., Larry Doby, Jim Thome, Al Rosen, Kenny Lofton

                  SP - Bob Feller
                  SP - Mel Harder
                  SP - Bob Lemon
                  SP - Addie Joss
                  SP - Stan Coveleski

                  RA - Doug Jones

                  Bullpen - Charley Nagy, Willis Hudlin, Bob Wickman, CC Sabathia.

                  Manager - Lou Boudreau
                  Last edited by Ytown Tribe fan; 09-30-2006, 07:54 PM.

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                  • #10
                    What about this list for the poll?
                    SP - BFeller, AJoss, BLemon, EWynn, CYoung, SCoveleski, Bagby Jr., MGarcia, SMcDowell, Sabathia
                    Setup - Narleski, Mesa, Gary Bell, Dan Spillner
                    Closer - Doug Jones, Bob Wickman, Don Mossi
                    C - Johnny Romano, Jim Hegan, SAlomar Jr, Victor Martinez
                    1B - Andre Thornton, Hal Trosky, Jim Thome, George Burns, Mike Hargrove
                    2B - Nap LaJoie, Cupid Childs, Carlos Baerga, Odell Hale, Joe Gordon, BAvila
                    3B - Ken Keltner, Al Rosen, Bill Bradley, Buddy Bell, Brook Jacoby, Bill Bradley, Toby Harrah
                    SS - LBoudreau, JSewell, RChapman, OVizquel, WHeld, TTurner, JFranco
                    OF -EAverill, TSpeaker, ABelle, JJackson, EFlick, LDoby, KLofton, RColavito, MRamirez, CJamieson, JHeath, DMitchell
                    DH-Hafner, Justice, EBurks, EMurray
                    Last edited by RuthMayBond; 10-02-2006, 10:59 AM.
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Ytown Tribe fan
                      My all time Tribe team is based on what a player did while with the Cleveland American League franchise between 1901 and 2006. This franchise went by the names of the Blues in 1901, the Broncos in 1902, the Naps from 1903-1914, and the Indians since 1915. IMO, it serves no useful purpose to divide the teams up by the nicknames they adopted in some seasons.

                      C - Mike Hegan
                      1B - Hal Trosky
                      2B - Nap Lajoie
                      3B - Ken Keltner
                      SS - Lou Boudreau
                      LF - Albert Belle
                      CF - Tris Speaker
                      RF - Manny Ramirez
                      DH - Travis Hafner

                      Bench - Earl Averill, Sandy Alomar Jr., Larry Doby, Jim Thome, Al Rosen, Kenny Lofton

                      SP - Bob Feller
                      SP - Mel Harder
                      SP - Bob Lemon
                      SP - Addie Joss
                      SP - Stan Coveleski

                      RA - Doug Jones

                      Bullpen - Charley Nagy, Willis Hudlin, Bob Wickman, CC Sabathia.

                      Manager - Lou Boudreau
                      Mike Hegan was a 1bman for the Yankees in the late 60's. I think you mean his dad, Jim.

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