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    We all know that our beloved Tigers are in the middle of a long rebuild. Sure, before he left, DD told us that it wasn't a rebuilt, but a reboot. That was before he angered Mr. I and was exiled to the inhumane lands of the disastrous Bosox. Now Al Avila is stock-piling non-top prospect middle-infielders to base our franchise on. Well, to be fair, we do have a few quality SP prospects in the system, but not much for position players.

    Where do we go from here? How far out are we from competitiveness? It's too early to tell how Chris Ilitch is going to be as a team owner, although he does love the game itself. I don't see him selling the team, but I also don't see him as involved as his free-spending father was. Avila is going to have to build something more in the mold of what the Rays do, or the A's, instead of the King George Yankee philosophy of buying titles. Thoughts? Any Tiger fans left here? This used to be one of the busiest team forums here. Time to rebuild!
    "Those who dream by day are cognizant of many things which escape those who dream only by night." - Edgar Allan Poe

  • #2
    Originally posted by racosun View Post
    We all know that our beloved Tigers are in the middle of a long rebuild. Sure, before he left, DD told us that it wasn't a rebuilt, but a reboot. That was before he angered Mr. I and was exiled to the inhumane lands of the disastrous Bosox. Now Al Avila is stock-piling non-top prospect middle-infielders to base our franchise on. Well, to be fair, we do have a few quality SP prospects in the system, but not much for position players.

    Where do we go from here? How far out are we from competitiveness? It's too early to tell how Chris Ilitch is going to be as a team owner, although he does love the game itself. I don't see him selling the team, but I also don't see him as involved as his free-spending father was. Avila is going to have to build something more in the mold of what the Rays do, or the A's, instead of the King George Yankee philosophy of buying titles. Thoughts? Any Tiger fans left here? This used to be one of the busiest team forums here. Time to rebuild!
    They have a long way to go. A few good assets in the majors and minors but the minor league system is still thin. Problem was that due to the age and salary of the roster they had few tradeable assets unlike the white sox for example. I think they are in a similar spot as the 2013 Phillies (also aging and expensive) now meaning it will take some time.

    basically verlander (assuming they want to keep boyd and fulmer which they should for now) was the only tradeable asset and even he was 35 and super expensive albeit still great.

    If you can't ship away a sale, Quintana and Eaton you need to build your system slowly through the draft, international signings and hopefully some smaller trades. What they can do is signing some relievers and other bounce back candidates and hope they do well so they can get traded. Won't yield a top prospect but at least some solid depth.
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    • #3
      Originally posted by racosun View Post
      We all know that our beloved Tigers are in the middle of a long rebuild. Sure, before he left, DD told us that it wasn't a rebuilt, but a reboot. That was before he angered Mr. I and was exiled to the inhumane lands of the disastrous Bosox. Now Al Avila is stock-piling non-top prospect middle-infielders to base our franchise on. Well, to be fair, we do have a few quality SP prospects in the system, but not much for position players.

      Where do we go from here? How far out are we from competitiveness? It's too early to tell how Chris Ilitch is going to be as a team owner, although he does love the game itself. I don't see him selling the team, but I also don't see him as involved as his free-spending father was. Avila is going to have to build something more in the mold of what the Rays do, or the A's, instead of the King George Yankee philosophy of buying titles. Thoughts? Any Tiger fans left here? This used to be one of the busiest team forums here. Time to rebuild!
      I know that a lot of people don't want to hear this, but one of our biggest issues is that we don't embrace analytics the same as many other teams. While plenty will argue against I think Theo Epstein ending the two longest championship droughts and the Astros becoming the team that they are is enough evidence for me.

      And there is a nice center between the Streinbrenner Yankee model and the Oakland A's model. It is the Cubs model. A team that CAN buy a good player when needed, but makes SMART moves for the most part.
      "Batting stats and pitching stats do not indicate the quality of play, merely which part of that struggle is dominant at the moment."

      -Bill James

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      • #4
        Originally posted by racosun View Post
        We all know that our beloved Tigers are in the middle of a long rebuild. Sure, before he left, DD told us that it wasn't a rebuilt, but a reboot. That was before he angered Mr. I and was exiled to the inhumane lands of the disastrous Bosox. Now Al Avila is stock-piling non-top prospect middle-infielders to base our franchise on. Well, to be fair, we do have a few quality SP prospects in the system, but not much for position players.

        Where do we go from here? How far out are we from competitiveness? It's too early to tell how Chris Ilitch is going to be as a team owner, although he does love the game itself. I don't see him selling the team, but I also don't see him as involved as his free-spending father was. Avila is going to have to build something more in the mold of what the Rays do, or the A's, instead of the King George Yankee philosophy of buying titles. Thoughts? Any Tiger fans left here? This used to be one of the busiest team forums here. Time to rebuild!
        I see a few younger guys with some potential as regular players, but none that really stand out as "the next fill-in-the-blank" super-star.

        The biggest problem with Mr. I was that he did not like to be told that Detroit is not a "destination" place in MLB like it is in the NHL, that he could not buy a championship for the Tigers like he did for the Red Wings. Seems like maybe Chris is figuring that out, maybe DD saying something to that effect to Mr. I is what got him sent out of town.

        At least the cupboard isn't as bear as it was in '03! Probably 2-3 more 70-90 seasons before we see .500 again.

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