I'm wondering if anyone can help me understand why Houston changed their nickname from the Colt .45s to the Astros in 1965. What I read is that Judge Roy Hofheinz wanted a more modern nickname to go along with the new domed stadium as well as the space program. This makes sense, but then why didn't he just call them the Astros to begin with, just three years earlier? I'd appreciate if anyone can give me the full info.
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Why'd the Colt .45s change their name?
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Probably for the same reason the Washington Bullets changed theirs. References to firearms might sound flashy and exciting but they're disturbing to a lot of people who worry too much. That, and it was the dawn of the space age and I guess the Astros wanted to take advantage of that with their name. If there's a major US city associated with space exploration, it's Houston. Thus, the Rockets and the Astros.
Besides, "Colt .45's?" Klunky. That's almost as bad as the Boston Somersets, the Brooklyn Superbas or the Chicago Orphans. The Boston Beaneaters was a better name than the Houston Colt .45's.Last edited by Imgran; 05-20-2008, 05:27 AM.
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As I recall the Colt firearms company objected to the use of the name. They felt it infringed upon their trademark. This was in the 60's before nut jobs decided taking guns to public facilities and blasting away would be a good way to spend the day.Buck O'Neil: The Monarch of Baseball
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Originally posted by KCGHOST View PostAs I recall the Colt firearms company objected to the use of the name. They felt it infringed upon their trademark.
Can you imagine, in this day and age, a company objecting to an entire team being named after their product for free ?
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Originally posted by Imgran View PostProbably for the same reason the Washington Bullets changed theirs. References to firearms might sound flashy and exciting but they're disturbing to a lot of people who worry too much.
I am strongly pro-Second Amendment rights, but neither I nor anyone I knew in the city objected to the name change, or had any trouble understanding why it was done.
I don't believe that the zeitgeist in Houston, Texas, was ever in a similar place, or ever had reason to be.
Originally posted by Imgran View PostBesides, "Colt .45's?" Klunky. That's almost as bad as the Boston Somersets, the Brooklyn Superbas or the Chicago Orphans. The Boston Beaneaters was a better name than the Houston Colt .45's.
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some of the reasons for the change are the colt firearm company, and the fact that the name didnt match well with the dome, "welcome to the .45dome...also in '62 houston was still considered old west, by '65 it was the solidified home of mission control...just a few reasons,Houston Rockets
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Originally posted by Imgran View PostProbably for the same reason the Washington Bullets changed theirs. References to firearms might sound flashy and exciting but they're disturbing to a lot of people who worry too much.
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Originally posted by Honus Wagner Rules View PostAnd all this time I thought the team was named after the Jetson's dog.
If the conflict with the firearm trademark is true, then I wonder how the Colt .45 gun company feels about getting drunk using their brand. Naming a baseball team seems kind of innocuous by comparison.
Just a thought.Put it in the books.
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Originally posted by Steve Jeltz View PostIn this touchy, politically correct nation, couldn't someone be offended by the name of the Astros? The near catastrophe of Apollo 13, the Challenger explosion and the Columbia shuttle disaster could all be fodder for the PC crowd.
About the Bullets/Wizards, I think spark240 explained it well. It's not that the name could possible offend people(that applies to pretty much any name if you try hard enough), but that the name carried macabre connotations for the city where the team played. It would be like if Oklahoma City had a team in the '90s called the Bombers. Strangely enough, even "Wizards" offended some people because of the KKK associations. So it wasn't like they were going out of their way to avoid offending anyone. Plus, think of it from a business standpoint: you don't want your business name to carry negative connotations. Why do you think Philip Morris changed their name?
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I don't think there was any "political correctness" involved in the change. For one thing, such sentiments did not exist in the mid 1960s.
I think it was just a matter of going to a more futuristic name.Please help. I was diagnosed with Stage 4 cancer last summer, and now I'm in a position where I need financial assistance. For the full story, please check out my GoFundMe campaign at https://gofund.me/3874ea2d. Thank you.
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Originally posted by Gary Dunaier View PostI don't think there was any "political correctness" involved in the change. For one thing, such sentiments did not exist in the mid 1960s.
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The name change was done solely because Judge Roy Hofheinz did not want to cut any piece of the profits to the Colt firearms company. The Colt .45's name was chosen from a name-the-team contest and was to signify the pistol that won the old west. George Kirskey, a team Vice-President loved the name and felt it was good for the first major league team in the south. Hofheinz was never a fan of the name. He wanted a more futuristic appeal and Houston was home base of NASA. Thus, in December, 1964 he held a press conference announced the new domed stadium would be named the Astrodome and the team would now be known as the Astros (short for Astronauts).
Hofheinz stated, “We felt the space idea was more logical because the ball club is in Houston- Space City U.S.A., and our spring training headquarters is in Cocoa Beach, Fla. at Cape Kennedy- Launching Pad, U.S.A. The name and insignia will help dispel the image Texas as a land of cowboys and Indians, and it behooves every citizen in this area to call attention to the 20th century aspects of Texas and Houston.”
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Originally posted by Astros View PostThus, in December, 1964 he held a press conference announced the new domed stadium would be named the Astrodome and the team would now be known as the Astros (short for Astronauts).:radio Please check out my collection of vintage baseball recordings:
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