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  • Astros all time 25 man roster

    C: Jason Castro, Alan Ashby
    1B: Jeff Bagwell, Lance Berkman
    2B: Craig Biggio, Joe Morgan
    3B: Doug Rader, Ken Caminiti
    SS: Dickie Thon, Adam Everett
    LF: Jose Cruz, Bob Watson
    CF: Cesar Cedeno, Jim Wynn
    RF: Terry Puhl
    SP: Roy Oswalt, Larry Dierker, Don Wilson, Nolan Ryan, Mike Scott
    RP: Billy Wagner, Dave Smith, Octavio Dotel, Joe Sambito, Larry Andersen

    How many games would this team win against 2016 competition if all of these Astros players were together in their Astros prime?

    The way I see it is the starting pitching would be the best is baseball as would the bullpen. The hitting would be at or near the best with easily the strongest bench. All that said 105 wins would be possible.
    Last edited by Sockeye; 10-27-2016, 06:46 PM.
    My dream ballpark dimensions
    LF: 388 Feet...Height 37 Feet...LCF: 455 Feet...CF: 542 Feet...Height 35 Feet
    RCF: 471 Feet...RF: 400 Feet...Height 60 Feet
    Location....San Diego

  • #2
    I think I might have to make a case that one James Rodney Richards makes that staff.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Woodside Park View Post
      I think I might have to make a case that one James Rodney Richards makes that staff.
      6 great starters for a 5 man rotation. Who do you leave off? Oswalt, Dierker, Wilson, Ryan, Scott?
      My dream ballpark dimensions
      LF: 388 Feet...Height 37 Feet...LCF: 455 Feet...CF: 542 Feet...Height 35 Feet
      RCF: 471 Feet...RF: 400 Feet...Height 60 Feet
      Location....San Diego

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Sockeye View Post
        6 great starters for a 5 man rotation. Who do you leave off? Oswalt, Dierker, Wilson, Ryan, Scott?
        IMO, for those few 300 K years there was no one in baseball hitters would rather not face. Meaning no disrespect to any of those fine arms, my cholce would be JR over either Dierker or Wilson. The brillancy of hIs career was relatively brief in comparison, but no one would ever leave Sandy Koufax off of a list because of that factor. But it's really just an opinion.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Woodside Park View Post
          IMO, for those few 300 K years there was no one in baseball hitters would rather not face. Meaning no disrespect to any of those fine arms, my cholce would be JR over either Dierker or Wilson. The brillancy of hIs career was relatively brief in comparison, but no one would ever leave Sandy Koufax off of a list because of that factor. But it's really just an opinion.
          I would argue that Dierker & Wilson are more deserving of a place on this team than Ryan or Scott. Dierker is an Astros legend and few would support his removal. Ryan & Scott are similar in Astros lore. Don Wilson is the lesser remembered of the starting 5. Unfairly so IMO.

          Wilson: 104 wins, 3.15 ERA, 1.21 WHIP, 109 ERA+, 1748 IP
          Richard: 107 wins, 3.15 ERA, 1.24 WHIP, 108 ERA+, 1606 IP

          Awfully close!
          My dream ballpark dimensions
          LF: 388 Feet...Height 37 Feet...LCF: 455 Feet...CF: 542 Feet...Height 35 Feet
          RCF: 471 Feet...RF: 400 Feet...Height 60 Feet
          Location....San Diego

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          • #6
            double post
            My dream ballpark dimensions
            LF: 388 Feet...Height 37 Feet...LCF: 455 Feet...CF: 542 Feet...Height 35 Feet
            RCF: 471 Feet...RF: 400 Feet...Height 60 Feet
            Location....San Diego

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Sockeye View Post
              C: Jason Castro, Alan Ashby
              1B: Jeff Bagwell, Lance Berkman
              2B: Craig Biggio, Joe Morgan
              3B: Doug Rader, Ken Caminiti
              SS: Dickie Thon, Adam Everett
              LF: Jose Cruz, Bob Watson
              CF: Cesar Cedeno, Jim Wynn
              RF: Terry Puhl
              SP: Roy Oswalt, Larry Dierker, Don Wilson, Nolan Ryan, Mike Scott
              RP: Billy Wagner, Dave Smith, Octavio Dotel, Joe Sambito, Larry Andersen

              How many games would this team win against 2016 competition if all of these Astros players were together in their Astros prime?

              The way I see it is the starting pitching would be the best is baseball as would the bullpen. The hitting would be at or near the best with easily the strongest bench. All that said 105 wins would be possible.
              So how much do we buy in to the current players? This is what I have to ask myself when looking at a roster.

              C- Brad Ausmus HAS to make it over Jason Castro. Then Alan Ashby.
              1B - You cant mess this one up, right??
              2B - I think Jose Altuve has clearly shown himself to be a year in-year out All-Star player and deserves to make this list over Joe Morgan who was BARELY a Colt .45. even though he is only a few years in, Altuve gets the nod
              3B - Rader and Caminiti are good picks here. I have had this convo before with others, but some feel that Ensberg was better than Rader at his best and obviously was a big part of their WS run. I think Rader was more tenured.
              SS - Dickie Thon had one great year for the Astros. Correa has one great year. He is also the all-time HR leader amongst Astros SS. I give Everrett the #1, and Correa is closing in quickly. Thon just didnt play much for the Stros
              OF - I like your list and think it works pretty well.

              SP - You have to have Richard in there. That damned stroke probably cost Richard many more wins, so I give him the nod over Don Wilson. Anyone looking for an interesting life story should look into JR Richard. He was homeless and living under an overpass in the 90's, but then got back up on his feet. Great story.

              RP - No Brad Lidge?? I think that's a mistake. Maybe cut Dotel or Sambito to add in Lidge. It'd be cool to have Wagner-Dotel-Lidge in there again like old times. That was a NASTY bullpen.


              All in all though, it think your list is pretty good.
              Strikeouts are boring - besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls. More democratic. ~Crash Davis

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Woodside Park View Post
                I think I might have to make a case that one James Rodney Richards makes that staff.
                But who would you replace?
                27 World Championships
                22 retired numbers
                Isn't it great to be a Yankee fan?
                Baseball was, is, and always will be to me the best sport-Babe Ruth

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by astrosFANATIC View Post

                  So how much do we buy in to the current players? This is what I have to ask myself when looking at a roster.

                  C- Brad Ausmus HAS to make it over Jason Castro. Then Alan Ashby.
                  1B - You cant mess this one up, right??
                  2B - I think Jose Altuve has clearly shown himself to be a year in-year out All-Star player and deserves to make this list over Joe Morgan who was BARELY a Colt .45. even though he is only a few years in, Altuve gets the nod
                  3B - Rader and Caminiti are good picks here. I have had this convo before with others, but some feel that Ensberg was better than Rader at his best and obviously was a big part of their WS run. I think Rader was more tenured.
                  SS - Dickie Thon had one great year for the Astros. Correa has one great year. He is also the all-time HR leader amongst Astros SS. I give Everrett the #1, and Correa is closing in quickly. Thon just didnt play much for the Stros
                  OF - I like your list and think it works pretty well.

                  SP - You have to have Richard in there. That damned stroke probably cost Richard many more wins, so I give him the nod over Don Wilson. Anyone looking for an interesting life story should look into JR Richard. He was homeless and living under an overpass in the 90's, but then got back up on his feet. Great story.

                  RP - No Brad Lidge?? I think that's a mistake. Maybe cut Dotel or Sambito to add in Lidge. It'd be cool to have Wagner-Dotel-Lidge in there again like old times. That was a NASTY bullpen.


                  All in all though, it think your list is pretty good.
                  I was going to say the same thing about Altuve but Joe Morgan did play10 years with the Astros, had 4,484 career PA's.
                  Strikeouts are boring! Besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls - it's more democratic.-Crash Davis

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                  • #10
                    Sock, no love for Bill Doran or Kevin Bass? How about Richard Hidalgo or Carlos Lee?
                    "I am not too serious about anything. I believe you have to enjoy yourself to get the most out of your ability."-
                    George Brett

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                    • #11
                      I know he played 1B, but I'm surprised Glenn Davis has not been mentioned.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Steve Jeltz View Post
                        I know he played 1B, but I'm surprised Glenn Davis has not been mentioned.
                        He is a victim of circumstance. He certainly had a longer run than Thon or Everett at SS, but such is life.

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