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  • Which City would Arte Moreno Consider Moving the Angels for the 2017 Season?

    Arte suggested in the Los Angeles Times on November 22, 2005 that the city of Anaheim is "trying to run him out of town." If that is the case, which city would you think that the Angels would call home for the 2017 season?
    22
    Anaheim
    31.82%
    7
    Downtown LA
    18.18%
    4
    Long Beach
    9.09%
    2
    Carson
    0.00%
    0
    Irwindale
    0.00%
    0
    Irvine
    4.55%
    1
    Other OC City
    0.00%
    0
    Pomona Area
    4.55%
    1
    Chino Area
    4.55%
    1
    Pasadena
    0.00%
    0
    Riverside Area
    0.00%
    0
    Ontario Area
    0.00%
    0
    out of So Cal
    18.18%
    4
    one not listed
    9.09%
    2

    The poll is expired.

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  • #2
    I do not expect the Dodgers to do this, but if Arte is seriously thinking about moving, they should call him up and ask him if he is interested in moving the Angels to Dodger Stadium. From the Dodgers point of view, you can make a lot more money if there are 162 games at your park than just 81. If the conditions are fair, the Angels could still make a lot of money as a tenant. Just ask the New York Jets. They are still second-bananas in New York (like the Angels), but they have also made a lot of money at Giants Stadium, and they are going to be sharing the new stadium when it gets built. In L.A., the Angels can get more respect from the local media, and the TV networks can no longer say "you only represent Anaheim." They will also be able to wear "LA" on their caps and put "Los Angeles" on their road jerseys.

    Would Arte be able to build a new stadium in L.A. if he didn't want to share with the Dodgers? It would be hard to find a better spot than Chavez Ravine, and it would be even harder to design a stadium that looks more beautiful...

    Eddie Cunningham
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    Finally---something Nats and Birds fans can agree on!

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    • #3
      There is no way the Angels would EVER play in Chavez Ravine again. Anaheim is a much better place to watch a game, anyway. The Ravine would actually be a downgrade (it is older than the Big A which did have extensive renovations done in the last decade) and many Angel fans would get really turned off. Besides, there is a ten year window to settle with Anaheim or explore other places in the area in which to build a stadium. O'Malley really ripped off Autry before, and that would leave a bitter taste in the mouth of many old time Angel fans.

      I think Arte has a lot of cards to play and ther would be certain places that would love to house the Angels, who seem to have a bright future. I see them trying to stay in North Orange County, South or Eastern LA County, or the Chino area on the San Bernardino/Riverside/Orange/LA Counties all meet. The base for the Angels tends to be that part of town.
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      • #4
        Originally posted by Bluesteve32
        There is no way the Angels would EVER play in Chavez Ravine again. Anaheim is a much better place to watch a game, anyway. The Ravine would actually be a downgrade (it is older than the Big A which did have extensive renovations done in the last decade) and many Angel fans would get really turned off. Besides, there is a ten year window to settle with Anaheim or explore other places in the area in which to build a stadium. O'Malley really ripped off Autry before, and that would leave a bitter taste in the mouth of many old time Angel fans.

        I think Arte has a lot of cards to play and ther would be certain places that would love to house the Angels, who seem to have a bright future. I see them trying to stay in North Orange County, South or Eastern LA County, or the Chino area on the San Bernardino/Riverside/Orange/LA Counties all meet. The base for the Angels tends to be that part of town.

        Moving the team to the I.E. would of a very stupid idea

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        • #5
          Angel Stadium is a dump compared to Dodger Stadium. I've been to countless games at both facilities. The big A has no character...Disney tried to add some with fake rocks, cliched green seats, a cliched water show, green-painted concrete, old sideline Rams' seats used as a RF pavilion, and those goofy giant mesh batting helmets out front...but in person it looks like cheap fake-looking add-ons. Oh, and you get a view of the freeway out in centerfield compared to Dodger Stadium's breathtaking views of the hills and mountains (north) and downtown skyline (south).

          The Angels should move to Vegas if it's still untapped by the time they can beat it out of Anaheim.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Bluesteve32
            There is no way the Angels would EVER play in Chavez Ravine again. Anaheim is a much better place to watch a game, anyway. The Ravine would actually be a downgrade (it is older than the Big A which did have extensive renovations done in the last decade) and many Angel fans would get really turned off. Besides, there is a ten year window to settle with Anaheim or explore other places in the area in which to build a stadium. O'Malley really ripped off Autry before, and that would leave a bitter taste in the mouth of many old time Angel fans.

            I think Arte has a lot of cards to play and ther would be certain places that would love to house the Angels, who seem to have a bright future. I see them trying to stay in North Orange County, South or Eastern LA County, or the Chino area on the San Bernardino/Riverside/Orange/LA Counties all meet. The base for the Angels tends to be that part of town.
            I think Arte is willing to abandon that base if it means becoming a team like the Dodgers that represent the entire Los Angeles area rather than just one part of it.

            Then again, he may just move to a new stadium in another part of Orange County or the suburbs if he gets the right to put "Los Angeles" on the road uniforms and put "L.A." on their caps.

            Eddie Cunningham
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            Finally---something Nats and Birds fans can agree on!

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            • #7
              Originally posted by eddiejc1
              I think Arte is willing to abandon that base if it means becoming a team like the Dodgers that represent the entire Los Angeles area rather than just one part of it.

              Then again, he may just move to a new stadium in another part of Orange County or the suburbs if he gets the right to put "Los Angeles" on the road uniforms and put "L.A." on their caps.

              Eddie Cunningham
              Arte likes the "A" they use now. I really don't think there will be a major change in uniforms or logos, regradless. I see Irvine being too far south in OC but Buena Park or Fullerton would make sense if only they would let Arte use LA. I see Long Beach not making the same mistake they made in 1964 when they hardballed Gene Autry, and that would be ideal in many respects.

              I also don't see the club considering anything east of Pomona or Chino and don't see the Corona area as being that attractive. Irwindale would be practical and was even suggested after the Rams moved into the Big A and the Angels were unhappy with what happen to their ballpark. When the Raiders considered Irwindale, there was also talk the Angels would consider a ballpark there, off the 605 Fwy between the 210 and 10 Fwys and rather close to the 57 and 60 fwys, too and not far from the Metrolink rails, and the Gold Line extension would pass nearby. Besides, Irwindale is ten minutes from my house.
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              • #8
                Originally posted by Elvis9045
                Angel Stadium is a dump compared to Dodger Stadium. I've been to countless games at both facilities. The big A has no character...Disney tried to add some with fake rocks, cliched green seats, a cliched water show, green-painted concrete, old sideline Rams' seats used as a RF pavilion, and those goofy giant mesh batting helmets out front...but in person it looks like cheap fake-looking add-ons. Oh, and you get a view of the freeway out in centerfield compared to Dodger Stadium's breathtaking views of the hills and mountains (north) and downtown skyline (south).

                The Angels should move to Vegas if it's still untapped by the time they can beat it out of Anaheim.
                Well I have been to both and feel quite the opposite. My kids were not impressed with their first visit to the "Latrine" last Spring. McCourt's new seats are real good, a buddy of mine said all he saw was the first base coach's rear end the whole game. Anaheim's seating is overall much closer that they are at the other place and the parking....well at least you have a gas station there to fill you tank up and ask directions for the hour it takes to get out.



                Last edited by Bluesteve32; 11-24-2005, 10:50 PM.
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Bluesteve32
                  ...well at least you have a gas station there to fill you tank up and ask directions for the hour it takes to get out.
                  Hogwash...It only takes 57 minutes to get out.

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                  • #10
                    The Angels may be a "second-banana" compared to the Dodgers, but they are a second banana that makes a lot of money. Whatever Arte chooses, I would be shocked if he were to move the team out of the L.A. metropolitan area.

                    (I know Angel fans don't consider themselves Los Angelenos, and it probably takes forever to drive there, but overall they are part of a gigantic metropolitan area that is called Los Angeles. What I'm trying to say is that Arte would be a moron to try and move the Angels to Mexico or Las Vegas.)

                    Eddie Cunningham

                    P.S. As a Marylander, "O.C." means one thing and one thing only.
                    20 20

                    Finally---something Nats and Birds fans can agree on!

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by eddiejc1
                      The Angels may be a "second-banana" compared to the Dodgers, but they are a second banana that makes a lot of money. Whatever Arte chooses, I would be shocked if he were to move the team out of the L.A. metropolitan area.

                      (I know Angel fans don't consider themselves Los Angelenos, and it probably takes forever to drive there, but overall they are part of a gigantic metropolitan area that is called Los Angeles. What I'm trying to say is that Arte would be a moron to try and move the Angels to Mexico or Las Vegas.)

                      Eddie Cunningham

                      P.S. As a Marylander, "O.C." means one thing and one thing only.
                      I concur 100%.

                      There are those OC fans that have become, we let's just say quite "snooty."
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                      • #12
                        If he wants to move someone has to build him a stadium. Ten years is a long time and the odds are Moreno won't even be the owner of the Angels by then. It is just a guess but I would suspect the team remains in Anaheim.
                        Buck O'Neil: The Monarch of Baseball

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by KCGHOST
                          If he wants to move someone has to build him a stadium. Ten years is a long time and the odds are Moreno won't even be the owner of the Angels by then. It is just a guess but I would suspect the team remains in Anaheim.
                          Actually, ten years is just about right to see what happen vis-a-vis the lawsuit and to set out feelers in other communities in the neighborhood. Also there are cities that may want to revitalize their particualr area and a ballpark may be a centerpeice for such a project. The Angels have done quite well at the gate the last few years and if you go from 1978-87 were among the league leaders in attendance even back then. So a track record is there.

                          In 2016, the Big A would be 50 years old and the renovations would be 20 years old. The necessity of a new ballpark may hasten for the 1960s building may not be what is comperable and the industry standard. There have been several ballparks built as many as 10 years after the Big A that have seen the wrecking ball. Riverfront, Veterans, Kingdome, Three Rivers, Fulton County now Busch were all commissioned after Anaheim and now are no longer used with several others that need to be decommissioned as well (Metrodome, US Cellular, Tropicana) and Steinbrenner is wants a new Yankee Stadium which was just redone in the mid-1970s.

                          In five years, a decision will be made and we just may see a new ballpark in So Cal.
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                          • #14
                            Hey Bluesteve, there seems to be a problem on google...



                            By the way...

                            "Where is Chone Figgins" IS A MORON!
                            Last edited by UnderPressure; 12-30-2005, 04:41 PM.
                            Using a stolen chant from Boston Celtics fans whenever an L.A. team is playing up there just reeks of inferiority complex.

                            If hitting a baseball is the toughest thing to do in sports, then pitching must be the easiest thing to do in sports.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Pure Dodger
                              Hey Bluesteve, there seems to be a problem on google...

                              Haaaaaaaa haaaaaaa!!!!

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