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    Which of these players in the #1 all-time Angel: PLease consider their service to the Angels, not necessarliy to other franchises in baseball. If you feel one of these is not the number one Angel, please nominate your own.

    Don Baylor
    Bob Boone
    Rod Carew
    Dean Chance
    Bartolo Colon
    Brian Downing
    Chuck Finley
    Jim Fregosi
    Troy Glaus
    Bobby Grich
    Vladimir Guerrero
    Reggie Jackson
    Fred Lynn
    Troy Percival
    Tim Salmon
    Don Sutton
    Nolan Ryan
    Hoyt Wilhelm
    Dave Winfield
    Mike Witt
    17
    Don Baylor
    0.00%
    0
    Bob Boone
    0.00%
    0
    Rod Carew
    0.00%
    0
    Dean Chance
    0.00%
    0
    Bartolo Colon
    0.00%
    0
    Brian Downing
    11.76%
    2
    Chuck Finley
    0.00%
    0
    Jim Fregosi
    17.65%
    3
    Troy Glaus
    0.00%
    0
    Bobby Grich
    5.88%
    1
    Vladimir Guerrero
    5.88%
    1
    Reggie Jackson
    0.00%
    0
    Fred Lynn
    0.00%
    0
    Troy Percival
    5.88%
    1
    Tim Salmon
    23.53%
    4
    Don Sutton
    0.00%
    0
    Nolan Ryan
    17.65%
    3
    Hoyt Wilhelm
    5.88%
    1
    Dave Winfield
    0.00%
    0
    Mike Witt
    0.00%
    0
    one not listed
    5.88%
    1
    Last edited by Bluesteve32; 03-10-2006, 01:26 AM.
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  • #2
    What an odd group: four HoFers and yet you don't think of any of them as Mr. Angel.

    I voted for Tim Salmon simply because he has played his whole career with the Angels.
    Buck O'Neil: The Monarch of Baseball

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    • #3
      hat's a good choice my many Angel fans. Wilhelm played part of one season, so I expect no votes for him, but he is a HOFer. Ryan, on the other hand, ought to have an Angel cap in Cooperstown. His 383 and four of his no-hitters were with the Angels, however his longevity somewhat diminished his Angel career.

      Fregosi ought to get some "Mr Angel" votes, too. He was an All-Star shortstop for much of the 1960s for the AL. His number is retired by the club as well.
      http://www.baseballhalloffame.org/ex...eline_1961.jpg

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      • #4
        When I think of the Los Angeles/California/Los Angeles Angles of Anaheim, the first players I think of are the pitching duo of Ryan and Tanana.

        From the list, I identify some players with other teams -
        Don Baylor
        Bob Boone - Phil
        Rod Carew - Minn
        Dean Chance
        Bartolo Colon
        Brian Downing
        Chuck Finley
        Jim Fregosi
        Troy Glaus
        Bobby Grich - Balt
        Vladimir Guerrero
        Reggie Jackson - NYY
        Fred Lynn - Bosox
        Troy Percival
        Tim Salmon
        Don Sutton - LAD
        Nolan Ryan - Hous
        Hoyt Wilhelm
        Dave Winfield - SD/NYY
        Mike Witt

        I think the most prominent Angel on the list is probably Downing, for time and service with club, leadership and general association.
        1968 and 1984, the greatest ever.

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        • #5
          I went with Gritch.

          He's probably the one I picture foremost in my mind with the uniform on.
          "I think about baseball when I wake up in the morning. I think about it all day and I dream about it at night. The only time I don't think about it is when I'm playing it."
          Carl Yastrzemski

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Bluesteve32
            hat's a good choice my many Angel fans. Wilhelm played part of one season, so I expect no votes for him, but he is a HOFer. Ryan, on the other hand, ought to have an Angel cap in Cooperstown. His 383 and four of his no-hitters were with the Angels, however his longevity somewhat diminished his Angel career.

            Fregosi ought to get some "Mr Angel" votes, too. He was an All-Star shortstop for much of the 1960s for the AL. His number is retired by the club as well.
            During the first 11 years of the franchise it floundered with only three winning seasons (1962, 1967, 1970). The fans needed to feel a sense of pride and tradition for their team, and that was provided by Jim Fregosi. He was the only player of consistent All-Star quality the Angels had. Fregosi gave us a glimpse of what the Halos could become with a little help from a trade or the farm system. He was the leader. Given the time and circumstances, no player ever meant more to the Angels.

            Fregosi is not the most talented player in club history, just the one who carried the whole organization on his back for its first 11 years. He got the Angels to first base.

            No one has done his job that well for that long.

            Jim Fregosi is Mr. Angel.

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            • #7
              All Time Single Season

              Single Season Best:
              Code:
              POS	T/B	Team	Player  Name	Year	G	AB	R	H	2B	3B	HR	RBI	BB	SO	AVG	SB
              C	R/S	LAA	Buck Rogers	1962	155	565	65	146	34	6	6	61	45	68	.258	1
              1B	L/L	CAL	Wally Joyner	1987	149	564	100	161	33	1	34	117	72	64	.285	8
              2B	R/R	CAL	Bobby Grich	1979	153	534	78	157	30	5	30	101	59	84	.294	1
              UT	R/S	LAA	Chone Figgins	2005	158	642	113	186	25	10	8	57	64	101	.290	62
              3B	R/R	ANA	Troy Glaus	2000	159	563	120	160	37	1	47	102	112	163	.284	14
              RF	R/R	ANA	Vlad Guerrero	2004	156	612	124	206	39	2	39	126	52	74	.337	15
              CF	L/L	ANA	Darin Erstad	2000	157	676	121	240	39	6	25	100	64	82	.355	28
              LF	L/L	ANA	Gar. Anderson	2002	158	638	93	195	56	3	29	123	30	80	.306	6
              DH	R/R	CAL	Don Baylor	1979	162	628	120	186	33	3	36	139	71	51	.296	22
              Code:
              POS	T/B	Team	Player  Name	Year	W	L	ERA	G	SV	IP	H	HR	BB	SO	Value
              SP	R/R	LAA	Dean Chance	1964	20	9	1.65	46	4	278	194	7	86	207	865
              SP	R/R	CAL	Nolan Ryan	1972	19	16	2.28	39	0	284	166	14	157	329	765
              SP	L/L	CAL	Frank Tannana	1976	19	10	2.43	34	0	288	212	24	73	261	762
              SP	L/L	CAL	Chuck Finley	1990	18	9	2.40	32	0	236	210	17	81	177	748
              SP	L/R	CAL	Clyde Wright	1970	22	12	2.83	39	0	261	226	24	88	110	737
              															
              RP	R/R	CAL	Bryan Harvey	1991	2	4	1.60	67	46	79	51	6	17	101	923
              RP	R/R	ANA	Troy Percival	2002	4	1	1.92	58	40	56	38	5	25	58	866
              RP	R/R	CAL	Ken Tatum	1969	7	2	1.36	45	22	86	51	1	39	65	859
              RP	R/L	CAL	Donnie Moore	1985	8	8	1.92	65	31	103	91	9	21	72	858
              RP	R/R	LAA	Bob Lee   	1964	6	5	1.51	64	19	137	87	6	58	111
              Last edited by HDH; 03-10-2006, 10:31 AM.
              In the 1920's, Harry Heilmann led the AL with a .364 average. In addition, he averaged 220 hits, 45 doubles, 12 triples, 16 homers, 110 runs, and 130 RBI.

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              • #8
                I went with Downing, because he was just one of those players you always pulled for, and he was one of my favorites back then.
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Tigerfan1974
                  When I think of the Los Angeles/California/Los Angeles Angles of Anaheim, the first players I think of are the pitching duo of Ryan and Tanana.

                  From the list, I identify some players with other teams -
                  Don Baylor
                  Bob Boone - Phil
                  Rod Carew - Minn
                  Dean Chance
                  Bartolo Colon
                  Brian Downing
                  Chuck Finley
                  Jim Fregosi
                  Troy Glaus
                  Bobby Grich - Balt
                  Vladimir Guerrero
                  Reggie Jackson - NYY
                  Fred Lynn - Bosox
                  Troy Percival
                  Tim Salmon
                  Don Sutton - LAD
                  Nolan Ryan - Hous
                  Hoyt Wilhelm
                  Dave Winfield - SD/NYY
                  Mike Witt

                  I think the most prominent Angel on the list is probably Downing, for time and service with club, leadership and general association.
                  Grich played three seasons more with the Angels as opposed to Baltimore.

                  WInfield won his WS with Toronto.

                  Ryan pitched eight season with the Angels, four of his seven no-hitters were with the Angels, two 20-plus wins seasons, 138 of his 324 wins, and was the face of the franchise for a decade. Ironically he was brought over to the Angels in the Jim Fregosi trade and Fregosi's first game as manager, Ryan started. Ryan would not be in the HOF is it were not for his Angel career.
                  http://www.baseballhalloffame.org/ex...eline_1961.jpg

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                  • #10
                    My results are single season bests; not the all-time Angels. I voted for Troy Percival as the all-time Angel.
                    In the 1920's, Harry Heilmann led the AL with a .364 average. In addition, he averaged 220 hits, 45 doubles, 12 triples, 16 homers, 110 runs, and 130 RBI.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by HDH
                      My results are single season bests; not the all-time Angels. I voted for Troy Percival as the all-time Angel.
                      Nothing is wrog with the Troy being considered the All-time Angel. He is smong the save leaders and was on the 2002 WS team and virtually his whole careeer was on the club, but overall, I believe Chance's 1964 CY season and Rayn's 1973 season were even better. Ryan had 2 no-hitters, 2 one hiiters, won 21 games, and 383 K's that season. It was quite marvelous to watch. BTW, both of his no-nos were on the road.
                      http://www.baseballhalloffame.org/ex...eline_1961.jpg

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                      • #12
                        Where's Garret Anderson?

                        Of the old-timers, the ones that come to mind are Ryan, Tanana, Downing, Grich, and Lynn, although Mike Witt's perfecto against the Rangers is one of my first baseball memories.
                        SOUVENEZ-VOUS LES EXPOS!!!
                        "The future's uncertain and the end is always near" - Jim Morrison

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by mojorisin71
                          Where's Garret Anderson?

                          Of the old-timers, the ones that come to mind are Ryan, Tanana, Downing, Grich, and Lynn, although Mike Witt's perfecto against the Rangers is one of my first baseball memories.
                          I knew I missed sombody. That is what I get for doing this after midnight and trying to fit the players in alpha order.

                          That is why "one not listed" is there. GA ought to be in the list, it was "my bad!"
                          http://www.baseballhalloffame.org/ex...eline_1961.jpg

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                          • #14
                            How could it not be Nolan Ryan?
                            "Heroes are people who are all good with no bad in them. That's the way I always saw Joe DiMaggio. He was beyond question one of the greatest players of the century."

                            ~Mickey Mantle

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                            • #15
                              ya gotta go with Jim Fregosi. His first 11 years years were there which were also the angels first 11 years. A 6 time all star for the angels he was their first good player. He also managed the angels for 4 years. So i would say he is their best all time angels palyer. Because when you think of him you think of the angels. But its too bad that people have forgotton of his contributions to the angels.
                              go sox.

                              Pigskin-Fever

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