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    If you had Brian Cashman's ear, what trades would you try to suggest (and please try to be practical, no Jorge Posada for Albert Pujols trades).

    One I wouldn't mind seeing, because I am still a fan of his despite the glaring holes in his game, is Carl Pavano straight up for Alfonso Soriano. I can think of many reasons why this trade would make sense and only two why it wouldn't:

    Why it could work:

    - Nationals need pitching and Yankees have a few too many starters
    - Soriano is already creating a headache for the Nationals by refusing to play OF, and that headache may not be worth their time and energy
    - Soriano is a free agent after this year anyway, so he'll likely live Washington, leaving them with nothing. At least this way they get a quality starter out of it.
    - Soriano is likely to make in excess of 10 mil, that's a lot of money for the Nationals right now, since they STILL do not have a real owner. For a team on a tight budget, that's a large investment for a player that may be more trouble than he's worth to them (especially since he'll leave after the year is over anyway).
    - It has been said that to get back to New York, Soriano may acquiesce to an OF switch. If so, people have thought since he was a SS prospect with the Yankees, that he could transition to CF.

    Why it may not work:

    - Soriano may be deadset against switching no matter where he's playing.
    - Even though the Nationals need pitching, they also need hitting, and Soriano was meant to be the centerpiece of their offense. The team may want some offense in return for Soriano.

  • #2
    How about a Pavano for Jeremy Reed trade? I've read that the M's have shown interest and we all know we have a hole in center(depending on your feelings of Crosby). Reed strikes me as a potential GG in center and I've heard that he could develop into a decent lead-off hitter. Maybe have to pay some of Pavano's contract but I think it might be worth it adding a youthful CF.

    EDIT: ^So much for that eh? Hail Damon!
    Last edited by monkey333; 12-23-2005, 07:27 PM.
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    • #3
      How about we try aquiring Chin Hui Tsao?? He is a power pitcher whos fastball has occasionally clocked at 100 mph but he is in the same boat as Bobby Jenks was in last year. Both are comming of surgeries and at a low point of their career. The Difference is Tsao already has some MLB experience as a starter and a closer. Right Now its possible to aquire him for a cheaper price. What do you think about aquiring tsao?

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      • #4
        Very interesting.
        Only problem is: Pavano is injury prone!
        Cristobal

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        • #5
          I personally don't see any need for Soriano. I do hope that he becomes an FA, and at which point, he'll get a blow to his wallet, since there's an unlimited rise or fall, based upon his efforts. He hasn't been particularly good in avoiding the strikeout.

          Check out the latest Stats, Height, Weight, Position, Rookie Status & More of Alfonso Soriano. Get info about his position, age, height, weight, draft status, bats, throws, school and more on Baseball-reference.com


          He turns 30 today, so Happy B-Day, and a bucket of ice cream, which he loved, per Suzyn Waldman's post-game interviews with him on YES.

          He's never posted a .900 OPS, and his highest total so far is .879 in 2003 as a Yankee. Last season, he hit a .821 OPS. He can generally rack up 30+ dingers, 100+ ribs, but I think that if he were more disciplined, instead of that "threat" thing, he'd be getting more meaningful hits in pressure situations if he could simply single or double some of the time that he strikes out.

          I loved him to death as a player, he had one of the most vibrant, honest and cheerful smiles I've seen from a young guy, and he got cheered upon his return to Yankee Stadium. However, he's gotta be much more focused and disciplined in his approach. If no, he'll see what his net worth is all about, unless like this winter, a weak FA market pushes his offering price upwards.
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          • #6
            Originally posted by Mattingly
            I personally don't see any need for Soriano. I do hope that he becomes an FA, and at which point, he'll get a blow to his wallet, since there's an unlimited rise or fall, based upon his efforts. He hasn't been particularly good in avoiding the strikeout.

            Check out the latest Stats, Height, Weight, Position, Rookie Status & More of Alfonso Soriano. Get info about his position, age, height, weight, draft status, bats, throws, school and more on Baseball-reference.com


            He turns 30 today, so Happy B-Day, and a bucket of ice cream, which he loved, per Suzyn Waldman's post-game interviews with him on YES.

            He's never posted a .900 OPS, and his highest total so far is .879 in 2003 as a Yankee. Last season, he hit a .821 OPS. He can generally rack up 30+ dingers, 100+ ribs, but I think that if he were more disciplined, instead of that "threat" thing, he'd be getting more meaningful hits in pressure situations if he could simply single or double some of the time that he strikes out.

            I loved him to death as a player, he had one of the most vibrant, honest and cheerful smiles I've seen from a young guy, and he got cheered upon his return to Yankee Stadium. However, he's gotta be much more focused and disciplined in his approach. If no, he'll see what his net worth is all about, unless like this winter, a weak FA market pushes his offering price upwards.
            If he doesn't want to sign with WAS, they'll probably deal him away on the TD.(trade deadline)
            Cristobal

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            • #7
              I would like to see Sheff for Chone Figgins.

              Figgins can play anywhere, and we can put Bubba in right, since his arm is strong enough. Chone can give Damon, Matsui, Cano, Jeter or Arod a break and be a nasty guy off the bench in the late innings to swipe a bag or just get on base.
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              • #8
                Originally posted by AVA8
                I would like to see Sheff for Chone Figgins.

                Figgins can play anywhere, and we can put Bubba in right, since his arm is strong enough. Chone can give Damon, Matsui, Cano, Jeter or Arod a break and be a nasty guy off the bench in the late innings to swipe a bag or just get on base.
                Good move, but then you'd lose a HUGE bat.
                Cristobal

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by AVA8
                  I would like to see Sheff for Chone Figgins.

                  Figgins can play anywhere, and we can put Bubba in right, since his arm is strong enough. Chone can give Damon, Matsui, Cano, Jeter or Arod a break and be a nasty guy off the bench in the late innings to swipe a bag or just get on base.
                  Nah, trade Bubba for Chone Figgins. You don't give up a bat like that for a quality bench guy. You add, not subtract by that much.
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by AVA8
                    I would like to see Sheff for Chone Figgins.

                    Figgins can play anywhere, and we can put Bubba in right, since his arm is strong enough. Chone can give Damon, Matsui, Cano, Jeter or Arod a break and be a nasty guy off the bench in the late innings to swipe a bag or just get on base.
                    I don't see that happening. The Angels already have a pretty good RFer (Guerrero) and they have a lot of young talent coming up that they'll want to get in the lineup (Kotchman, MacPherson, Mathis, Morales, even Juan Rivera). Sheffield would only block them. Plus, Chone Figgins is a super player to have on a team, he can play anywhere and does all those little things. He's just the type of player that Mike Scoscia loves so I don't see them giving him up.

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                    • #11
                      I'm glad Soriano is gone and would be disappointed if he came back. IMHO, his performance problems are linked to his attention span and vanity; the infectious young smile is long gone. The way he's acting now with the Nats says all. I can't see trading away pitching because the staff resembles an expensive racing tire that's been patched several times: great if it holds up, but at any moment it could blow. They need more good arms, not less. If there are injuries or poor performers come Spring, Cairo could well find himself starting 2nd baseman if Cano goes in a trade for a quality starter -- if there are any available.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Mattingly
                        Nah, trade Bubba for Chone Figgins. You don't give up a bat like that for a quality bench guy. You add, not subtract by that much.
                        I have to disagree, Mattingly. Not about the fact of trading Sheffield for Figgins, because I believe that's not a good deal, too. But, about Figgins being a quality bench player.

                        Figgins prove to be a very versatile player last season for the Angels. He can play just about any position while still putting up good offensive numbers. Figgins scored 110 plus runs last year, hit 290., had a good 352. OBP and also stole 62 bases last season. Figgins is overall a great spark plug player, but not a player for the Yankees consider Figgins should be the lead-off hitter or number 2 hitter, which the Yankees clearly have in Damon and Jeter.
                        Last edited by Evangelion; 01-08-2006, 02:57 PM.

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                        • #13
                          What do we really need? Defense and relief pitching. I'd personally like to see us get Mike Cameron... I don't know what we have that San Diego would want, though.

                          Then, we could move Damon to LF, Matsui to DH, and Bernie to backup... I'd like to see it happen, but it probably won't.
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