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Most people aren't satified with Pettitte's apology

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  • Most people aren't satified with Pettitte's apology

    I'm reading that what Pettite said is a very poor excuse
    They think it's the bunk he was using this stuff for just healing
    I think he should of just kept quiet like everyone else
    He gave more power to the dude that sang

  • #2
    Originally posted by Hank Parks View Post
    I'm reading that what Pettite said is a very poor excuse
    They think it's the bunk he was using this stuff for just healing
    I think he should of just kept quiet like everyone else
    He gave more power to the dude that sang
    He isn't the only one fessing up. The Dodgers just signed Gary Bennett, who also admitted the Mitchell report was correct on his HGH usage.

    http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?...t=.jsp&c_id=la

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    • #3
      Being Pettite and Clemons are so close and one does what the other does do you guys think this will hurt Clemens denial?
      Indirectly Clemens good friend hurt his plea of inocents

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      • #4
        If he only used the HGH a couple of times several years ago then his explanation sounds reasonable that it was to help recover from an injury. And isn't there a difference in using something "artificial" to recover from an injury. Aren't many injury cures artificial. Isn't "Tommy John" surgery where a part of your body is taken and transplanted into your arm the most artificial thing you can do and yet nobody thinks that is cheating.

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        • #5
          For most of these guys it doesn't matter whether they fess up or not. For guys that are on the HoF track this could be devastating. Take someone like Gary Sheffield who is not a media darling to start with. If he fessed up his HoF candidacy might go right in the toilet. Roger Clemens would take a major hit. He might still get in the HoF but his claim as one of the three best pitchers in history would go up in smoke.

          Pettitte has a weak shot at the HoF so this probably won't hurt him that much. And I think most people bought his explanation. ESPN certainly did.
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          • #6
            Originally posted by clong View Post
            If he only used the HGH a couple of times several years ago then his explanation sounds reasonable that it was to help recover from an injury. And isn't there a difference in using something "artificial" to recover from an injury. Aren't many injury cures artificial. Isn't "Tommy John" surgery where a part of your body is taken and transplanted into your arm the most artificial thing you can do and yet nobody thinks that is cheating.

            That is if you buy his excuse. And if you buy that he "only" took it once and if you buy he "only" took it in 2002.
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            • #7
              Originally posted by KCGHOST View Post
              For most of these guys it doesn't matter whether they fess up or not. For guys that are on the HoF track this could be devastating. Take someone like Gary Sheffield who is not a media darling to start with. If he fessed up his HoF candidacy might go right in the toilet. Roger Clemens would take a major hit. He might still get in the HoF but his claim as one of the three best pitchers in history would go up in smoke.

              Pettitte has a weak shot at the HoF so this probably won't hurt him that much. And I think most people bought his explanation. ESPN certainly did.
              I agree with you. Any small chance Andy Pettitte had at getting into the HOF was shot dead with the Mitchell Report. Roger Clemens took a big hit, even if he denies he ever did it. Mark Maguire is basically being boycotted out of the HOF because he's very suspiscious, it's very ironic that his name wasn't brought up in the report.
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              • #8
                From what I have been told by people who know Andy Pettitte, his reason for using HGH is not only logical, but almost positively the absolute truth.

                Brian Roberts also fessed up to his use also.

                I think the Mitchell report is right on, but only the tip of the iceberg. remember, Mitchell got his info from just two people. there are many other suppliers, trainers, etc all over the country who have not come out of the closet. I think Clemens is as guilty as they come, and is making a fool of himself.

                If anyone named in the report is innocent, all he need do is sue in court for defamation and slander. Lets see who sues. No one in my opinion.

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                • #9
                  As far as I can tell Andy Petite did not break any major league rules. He used HGH before it was banned. I do not see the need for his apology and understand his statement completely. Now as for Roger Clemens, he has been rumored to have taken steroids because of the longevity of his career and the stuff he has maintained. I believe that hard work and dedication to the game can help one maintain his arm for so long. If anything steroids breaks down one's arm long term for being more powerful in the short term. So I truthfully see no proof he has taken any illegal substance. ALso, the check the trainer gave could have been for anything. These people take care of many things for these players, buy stuff, take care of errands and pick up people from airport and stuff like that I believe the cheque was for something else and not performance enhancers. Unless proven guilty in the court of law, he remains innocent.

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                  • #10
                    Tinyballer, innocent of what? He's not being charged with a crime.

                    You believe the check was for something else? What makes you believe this? Because the guy that recieved that check said it was for HGH or what have you, what do you have that refutes that? Hopes and dreams?
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                    The Yankees should see if Yogi Berra can still get behind the plate - he has ten World Series rings... he must be worth forty or fifty million a season.

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                    • #11
                      Exactly he has not been charged, but everyone is already talking about him like they are sure he has cheated so he is already tried in the court of public opinion even though it is not proven. These team manager people manage many things for these players and buy many things for this player like an errand man that check could very much have been for a gym equipment that CLemens wanted and the trainer prepaid for It could be for anything. The fact that guy needed stories and names to keep his ass out of jail is enough for me. Mitchell obviously wanted to hear big names and thats what this guy is giving. No one knowes what he and Clemens relationship is maybe he hates Clemens and wants to keep him out of the HOF.
                      Last edited by Tinyballer; 12-18-2007, 09:03 PM.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Yankeefan90 View Post
                        I agree with you. Any small chance Andy Pettitte had at getting into the HOF was shot dead with the Mitchell Report. Roger Clemens took a big hit, even if he denies he ever did it. Mark Maguire is basically being boycotted out of the HOF because he's very suspiscious, it's very ironic that his name wasn't brought up in the report.
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by TonyStarks View Post
                          That is if you buy his excuse. And if you buy that he "only" took it once and if you buy he "only" took it in 2002.
                          And you have to buy that you have no concrete evidence that says otherwise. Should Pettitte have come clean before the report? Do the rest of us automatically own up to all of the stuff we've ever done? I think some people around here are acting like paragons of virtue as they light the fires to burn all who they denounce as witches.

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                          • #14
                            Does anyone know if Brian McNamee was on trial for anything? Was there any situation whereby if he'd offered testimony against Roger Clemens, he'd get leniency on something else, but if he didn't, another charge could be brought against him.

                            If someone had in any way supplied steroids to professional ballplayers they'd coached, I sometimes wonder if they may be accused of something else.
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                            • #15
                              An apology is not enough for what he did. I used to have a lot of respect for him....
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