One more decent starter?

[DaveTheYankee]

We really need one, and there are some decent SPs out there who are free agents and we could sign for a one year low risk contract and they might even do pretty good. Freddy Garcia, I know he was bad last year, but if he is healthy he could be good, he's only two years removed from a 17 win season. Then there is Kyle Lohse and Jeff Weaver. I seriously think Cashman should look in to signing one of them, since it looks like Moose is gonna suck and we need one more veteran pitcher. Also there are some decent RPs out there but none that could really help out our bullpen. Maybe Akinori Otsuka but he's coming off an injury.

[Yankeebiscuitfan]

We really need one, and there are some decent SPs out there who are free agents and we could sign for a one year low risk contract and they might even do pretty good. Freddy Garcia, I know he was bad last year, but if he is healthy he could be good, he's only two years removed from a 17 win season. Then there is Kyle Lohse and Jeff Weaver. I seriously think Cashman should look in to signing one of them, since it looks like Moose is gonna suck and we need one more veteran pitcher. Also there are some decent RPs out there but none that could really help out our bullpen. Maybe Akinori Otsuka but he's coming off an injury.

I don't think Jeff Weaver is the solution. Except for St. Louis, he has proven that he is not that good. I know I have said something else in the past, but now I realize he won't fit in our organisation.

[KCGHOST]

If you are willing to take on Jeff Weaver the rest of the AL will pay his salary if you guarantee he gets 25+ starts.

[nyyfan]

I don't think we need another starter. The best you will get will be just like Moose. We need the space right now for the Chamberlain, Hughes, and Kennedey.

[DoubleX]

I don't think we need another starter. The best you will get will be just like Moose. We need the space right now for the Chamberlain, Hughes, and Kennedey.

I agree. I'm not ready to write Mussina off, as it was just his first ST outing, but between than and last year, I'm not that optimistic. Still, bringing in a veteran like Lohse or Garcia (who can't pitch for a few months), you might not get an ERA below 5.00 anyway. If Mussina struggles, the team has enough internal options (Chamberlain, Karstens, Wright, Horne, Marquez), that it can patch something together.

[JLevin]

I have to agree with the last post. I don't want to see the Yankees forking over $5-10 million on someone who is just as good as someone from AAA. Think about how bad the staff was hurting last year and our record by the end of the year. I'd rather see someone called up from the minors than bring in an overpriced vet. If they're out there waiting for a call from a team, chances are they're not worth it.

[TonyStarks]

We really need one, and there are some decent SPs out there who are free agents and we could sign for a one year low risk contract and they might even do pretty good. Freddy Garcia, I know he was bad last year, but if he is healthy he could be good, he's only two years removed from a 17 win season. Then there is Kyle Lohse and Jeff Weaver. I seriously think Cashman should look in to signing one of them, since it looks like Moose is gonna suck and we need one more veteran pitcher. Also there are some decent RPs out there but none that could really help out our bullpen. Maybe Akinori Otsuka but he's coming off an injury.

Why would you want to give starts away to Kyle Lohse? I'd rather give his starts to a Alan Horne or Ian Kennedy. I know that Horne\Kennedy getting starts will be much more fruitful than wasting time and money on Lohse.

Jeff Weaver??? Jeff. Weaver. Do you seriously want to go there again?

IMO, bullpens are crapshoots. Let's be honest. So why not put a BP together with what the Yanks have in camp already? There are some 13 pitchers trying for maybe 5 spots since Kyle, Mo, Joba, Hawkins already have their spots. Let's give them a shot before deciding what's already in camp won't work.

[Yankeebiscuitfan]

Why would you want to give starts away to Kyle Lohse? I'd rather give his starts to a Alan Horne or Ian Kennedy. I know that Horne\Kennedy getting starts will be much more fruitful than wasting time and money on Lohse.

Jeff Weaver??? Jeff. Weaver. Do you seriously want to go there again?

IMO, bullpens are crapshoots. Let's be honest. So why not put a BP together with what the Yanks have in camp already? There are some 13 pitchers trying for maybe 5 spots since Kyle, Mo, Joba, Hawkins already have their spots. Let's give them a shot before deciding what's already in camp won't work.

I think you are right. There is quite some talent in the organisation. Let's try that first. If that doesn't work out, you can always get a pitcher from outside.

[dougj1]

Quite some pitching talent in the organization? Where is it? It must be hiding someplace. Have you seen the total number of runs this so called pitching staff has allowed this spring? ...One good effort followed by one poor effort, and no consisentcy at all. This is typical of a .500 club and spells mediocrity...Cashman, so far, has shown he doesn't know how to put together a winner. To think this club can improve things which have remained status quo for 4-5 years now, is unthinkable. $200 million + , and still no sign of quality pitching.

[Yankeebiscuitfan]

Quite some pitching talent in the organization? Where is it? It must be hiding someplace. Have you seen the total number of runs this so called pitching staff has allowed this spring? ...One good effort followed by one poor effort, and no consisentcy at all. This is typical of a .500 club and spells mediocrity...Cashman, so far, has shown he doesn't know how to put together a winner. To think this club can improve things which have remained status quo for 4-5 years now, is unthinkable. $200 million + , and still no sign of quality pitching.

So spending for another mediocre pitcher will help the ball club...?

[nyyfan]

If Mussina struggles, the team has enough internal options (Chamberlain, Karstens, Wright, Horne, Marquez), that it can patch something together.

Also be doing that we could find a potential hidden gem in those. I think Karstens and Wright will defintley find themselves as a #2 - #3 starting pitcher. They need some confidence and they just may find there self in the Yanks rotation as an injury replacement.

[monkey333]

Quite some pitching talent in the organization? Where is it? It must be hiding someplace. Have you seen the total number of runs this so called pitching staff has allowed this spring? ...One good effort followed by one poor effort, and no consisentcy at all. This is typical of a .500 club and spells mediocrity...Cashman, so far, has shown he doesn't know how to put together a winner. To think this club can improve things which have remained status quo for 4-5 years now, is unthinkable. $200 million + , and still no sign of quality pitching.

You're completely right. A few bad spring training games ensures this pitching staff is going to be terrible. That's not overreacting at all.......oh wait.

[monkey333]

Also be doing that we could find a potential hidden gem in those. I think Karstens and Wright will defintley find themselves as a #2 - #3 starting pitcher. They need some confidence and they just may find there self in the Yanks rotation as an injury replacement.

You're going to be soooooo dissapointed.

[TonyStarks]

Quite some pitching talent in the organization? Where is it? It must be hiding someplace. Have you seen the total number of runs this so called pitching staff has allowed this spring? ...One good effort followed by one poor effort, and no consisentcy at all. This is typical of a .500 club and spells mediocrity...Cashman, so far, has shown he doesn't know how to put together a winner. To think this club can improve things which have remained status quo for 4-5 years now, is unthinkable. $200 million + , and still no sign of quality pitching.

Ah...buddy. It's Spring Training. Pitchers get warmed up and try to work out kinks and add new wrinkles to their aresenal.

It's nothing to be alarmed about at this point. I mean jeez, it's just the first week of pitchers facing real hitters.

It's way to soon to be sounding any alarms.

Also be doing that we could find a potential hidden gem in those. I think Karstens and Wright will defintley find themselves as a #2 - #3 starting pitcher. They need some confidence and they just may find there self in the Yanks rotation as an injury replacement.

Karstens and Wright as a No. 2 or No. 3?? Maybe in AAA, but I seriously doubt that could handle anything more than a No. 5 Spot/Long relief.

I soured greatly on Jeff Karstens after last season...and I did like what I saw at times from Wright, but not to the point where he's a Front of the Rotation guy. No way.

[Evangelion]

I never thought I read about Karstens and Wright mention being front of the rotation pitchers. Let's not even go there.

On topic, the Yankees have the best they'll have entering the 2008 season. Weaver and Lohse would just take starts away from a pitcher like Kennedy, who did pitch well at the end of the season last year. Honestly, both of them are not that good with Weaver providing he can't handle New York. Why would you add either these pitchers? At this point, Mussina no better or worse than both of them, it's like wasting money on the same type of player, if Mussina's case, he at least has proven he can pitch in New York while the others have yet to prove that or just sucked.

Wang, Pettitte and Hughes will handle the front end of the rotation. Kennedy and Mussina should start the season at the back end of the rotation. Chamberlain could join the rotation later in the season. Since Mussina likely to handle the fifth spot, if he flops, it's a fifth spot of a rotation, a spot that usually skipped and where the pitcher not depend on, or for that matter, not that good. Also in Mussina's case, he could find his groove again, but I doubt that at the moment. In short, it's not a spot that's the need that dire to add another 4-6 millions dollars onto payroll, then proceed to pay even a higher amount of luxury tax.