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  • hellborn
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    Originally posted by Urbanshocker13 View Post
    LOL, I know the weather over there in Ireland & England, yup lots of rain. But you guys don't have the snow,& Cold in the winter or the humitity and heat in the summer we have in the North East of America. You are going in May, so it should be very nice but then again the saying goes if you don't like the weather in the Northeast wait 10 minutes! The one thing the weather in the Northeast isn't is predictable!
    I've lived in IL, TX, MO, MI, and NH, and people said that same thing about the weather in each place (although 15 minutes is more typical)!
    The place where that stood out for me the most was Dallas in the summer...you could go from a bright, nearly cloudless day to tornado-like conditions in about 3 minutes. You had to keep your eye on clouds forming suddenly and then boiling up to the heavens...that was a sign to run inside!

    May should be OK in NYC, probably not very cold. Possibly quite warm and/or wet. If you come up to the White or Green Mountains, ski season would have just ended!

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  • Urbanshocker13
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    Originally posted by mjrennie View Post
    ok, thanks.

    what sort of weather can we expect in may? we don't have a climate in the uk, we just have weather...ie rain. seems like the climate is more predictable in the us. our tiny island is pounded by sea on all sides and we have a very wet time of it. when we came over last easter, we were stunned at the cold. it was brilliant sunshine but desperately cold. really nice actually, but we were surprised.
    LOL, I know the weather over there in Ireland & England, yup lots of rain. But you guys don't have the snow,& Cold in the winter or the humitity and heat in the summer we have in the North East of America. You are going in May, so it should be very nice but then again the saying goes if you don't like the weather in the Northeast wait 10 minutes! The one thing the weather in the Northeast isn't is predictable!
    Last edited by Urbanshocker13; 03-16-2008, 09:27 AM.

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  • mjrennie
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    ok, thanks.

    what sort of weather can we expect in may? we don't have a climate in the uk, we just have weather...ie rain. seems like the climate is more predictable in the us. our tiny island is pounded by sea on all sides and we have a very wet time of it. when we came over last easter, we were stunned at the cold. it was brilliant sunshine but desperately cold. really nice actually, but we were surprised.

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  • Urbanshocker13
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    You should check out the other fourms on this page, there is alot of good photos of Old Yankee stadium before the 70's renovations and of the New Stadium. There is also alot of good fourms in the History of the Game section, alot of good information and good posts.

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  • mjrennie
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    no, green bay is an enigma. football in england has real local roots. supporting your local team is, mainly, the law. man united (spit) are an exception and they have a global following and the common perception is of man city being the local manchester team.

    what appealed to me about the giants this year was the way they came good and showed spirit and guts.

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  • hellborn
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    Originally posted by mjrennie View Post
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    actually, picking the yankees and the cowboys is probably the easy option anyway. seems they are the glamour teams in their sport.

    good to exchange views with you people anyway, sorry for typos, just typing too quickly. have a good weekend.

    michael.
    I'd argue that the Cowboys and Packers are the two NFL franchises that attract the most rabid long-term fans. Even when they stink, a lot of people stick with them or even become new fans because of the name, mystique, and history.
    Is there another example of such a successful major sports franchise being located in an area as isolated and lightly populated as Green Bay?

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  • mjrennie
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    american football...now that is very, very popular in the uk. we get a triple header, live, every sunday night and many bonus games like a thursday thanksgiving or mondays. most play-off games too and, of course, the super bowl. i have always looked for the cowboys since i was given a sweatshirt back in about 1984 when it first came on our screens in england. i had a choice of that or a black oakland or red frisco t-shirt. i think the redskins beat dallas in the nfc championship that season, the days of danny white and tony dorsett.

    this was then followed by about 8 years of abysmal dallas teams and then, bang, world beaters. i think the sport is outstanding and this years new york run was very impressive. when dalls beat them at giants stadium in the regular season, i still reckoned the giants looked to have something useful. i was not surprised they knocked dallas out later, but was surprised when they turned over the patriots. that last drive was great.

    now i find out the giants used to play at yankee stdium, so i have to have a soft spot for them. but that makes me a bandwagon jumper. whatever.

    actually, picking the yankees and the cowboys is probably the easy option anyway. seems they are the glamour teams in their sport.

    good to exchange views with you people anyway, sorry for typos, just typing too quickly. have a good weekend.

    michael.

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  • hellborn
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    Originally posted by Urbanshocker13 View Post
    It's cool when you can fool around with other fans and mess with each other but some idiots just use it as an excuse to get into a fight with people.
    I've had so many great conversations with Yanks fans in Boston and NYC...it is sad when dopes try to ruin things. I don't really mind rude comments and smack talk, but 4 drunks screaming/spraying in my face nonstop was just ridiculous. They should have been at rehab instead of at a ballgame.
    The thing that really amazed me in NYC was that Mets fans mostly loved us...we even had one guy in a bar in SoHo almost apologize to us for '86. He said he was so thrilled to see his team win, but why did they have to beat the Bosox to do it? Granted, there were some Mets fans who were quite hostile, but they were in the minority.
    Last edited by hellborn; 03-13-2008, 08:58 PM.

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  • hellborn
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    Originally posted by mjrennie View Post
    thanks for the advice and tips, the pics are very helpful.

    we barely explored a fraction of nyc during easter week last year, so we have way to much to do again. next stop for us in the us will be chicago i suspect, but nyc for a few years yet. the view coming in from birmingham into newark is something i will never forget. just amazing.

    take it easy people.
    Chicago is an excellent choice!
    Gotta see Wrigley Field, insist on a day game.
    And drive up and down Lake Shore Drive for marvelous views.
    And get some real stuffed pizza...and an Italian beef/sausage combo...well, I'll make a list for when you actually go there.

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  • Urbanshocker13
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    Originally posted by hellborn View Post
    Last time I was in NYC, I had four huge, drunk bums in front of me who were just itching to fight...I know the same happens to a lot of Yanks fans in Fenway, seems like there will be 5-10 fights per game that require security. There's really no way to segregate fans, though...you're buying tickets for particular seats, so everybody gets intermingled.

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    That was you! Just kidding! Drunkerds mess everything up, it gets old real fast and it messes up just having fun at a game. I went to a Cowboys Giants game last season and a Cowboy fan was acting like a total jerk I think begging to start something with someone that was annoying, but then again there was Cowboy fans in front of us who where real cool and civil The Giants lost and at the end of the game we shook hands and said good game to each other. It's cool when you can fool around with other fans and mess with each other but some idiots just use it as an excuse to get into a fight with people.
    Oh! and our Brit friend you should check out an American Football game if you ever can. I love baseball and it's by far my favorite sport but an Live American Football game is something you must experience! NYC has so many things to see you really have your work cut out for you!

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  • mjrennie
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    thanks for the advice and tips, the pics are very helpful.

    we barely explored a fraction of nyc during easter week last year, so we have way to much to do again. next stop for us in the us will be chicago i suspect, but nyc for a few years yet. the view coming in from birmingham into newark is something i will never forget. just amazing.

    take it easy people.

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  • Urbanshocker13
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    Even RedSox Yankees is nothing even close to Europen Football in violence and rowdness! There might be a few fist fights in the crowd and outside because of drunken idiots, but not riots or anything. Most you will see is name calling and making fun of visting fans, chants like "A___hole" and "redsox(or whetever team) suck". As there is a natural riverly between New England and New York, nothing like the tribalism of Europe! It's mostly lighthearted razzing between fans, Like I am going to the Yanks/Sox game with my dad and his friend who is a Boston fan, so we are going to ripping on each other the wholee time. What you should expect is alot of chanting and cheering, if the Ump makes a bad call alot of boos and cures yelled down at him, and some annoying drunken idiots but you should have a great time, especially if it's a good game and the Yanks are winning. So have a way too expensive watered down beer and a hotdog and have a great time! If you get a chance you should check out Boston and other US cities, Boston is a fun place and a nice historic city even though it has that one baseball team that shall remain nameless.

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  • hellborn
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    Originally posted by mjrennie View Post
    the tix are versus the mariners.

    no idea what baseball crowds are like, but in football (soccer), we still have segregation. violence is still a feature of our national sport, not too clever really. thing is, it is very tribal and some real hatred exists bewteen certain regions, eg manchester-liverpool, north-south. and the intra-city rivalry is heavy.

    so, a feisty crowd is not alien to me, hope to sit with real fans and sample the american sports watcher mentality. should be really interesting.
    A Mariners game should be pretty tame, I would think. Should be fun for you to see Ichiro play, too. The Stadium will definitely not be crawling with Seattle fans causing trouble!
    Red Sox/Yankees games are typically very tense in both cities. Last time I was in NYC, I had four huge, drunk bums in front of me who were just itching to fight...I know the same happens to a lot of Yanks fans in Fenway, seems like there will be 5-10 fights per game that require security. There's really no way to segregate fans, though...you're buying tickets for particular seats, so everybody gets intermingled.

    BTW, Boston is a fairly short drive/ride from NYC...fun city, obviously on a vastly different scale than NYC. The White Mountains of NH or the Green Mountains of VT are also closer to NYC than Niagara.
    Last edited by hellborn; 03-13-2008, 11:25 AM.

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  • Cajun Yankee
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    Here's some different views from Tier 8, Row W. Hope it helps.



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  • mjrennie
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    Originally posted by DoubleX View Post
    I assume you mean segregation between the fans of each team? When you say segregation here, typically it evokes a much different thought and reaction (as in racial).

    Fans of the teams do commingle at the stadiums here, but the home team fans typically vastly outnumber the visiting team's fans. With a team like the Mariners, who play 3000 miles away from New York, you're not going to get many Mariner fans at Yankee Stadium (though there will be some). Emotions between fans only really rise when you get something like the Yankees vs. Red Sox. There is a deep rivalry there and more fans of the visiting team make the trek to the other team's stadium because the cities are much closer. But it's still not quite like the hooliganism you can get over in Europe or South America.
    yeah, definitely, i meant segregation between rival fans. in the 70's and 80's, away fans would be kept in pens. seriously, i have been in many. it actaully made things worse because it enabled gangas of away fans to get together and whip each other into a frenzy. occasionally, the visitors would be given a police escort from the local railway station and would have to run a gauntlet of bottles, darts, bricks. i've seen some really nasty stuff.

    the distance thing is interesting too. the absolute furthest any fan would have to travel to watch their premier league team play away is about 300 miles. most are less than 100. the uk is tiny really. lake superior is bigger than england and i think texas is 3 times the area of the uk. i checked out a rail trip to niagara from new york and nearly fell off my seat when it came back with 7 hours. the us is just vast.

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