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    Can't wait to see what he does!
    MINNEAPOLIS -- The wait is over.

    Joba Chamberlain has a spot in the New York Yankees' rotation and a date for his first start: Tuesday night against Toronto. Manager Joe Girardi said the 22-year-old will be limited to 65 or 70 pitches when he takes the mound at Yankee Stadium.

    After deliberating about the decision during New York's off day Thursday and consulting with general manager Brian Cashman, Girardi said Friday he decided to keep Andy Pettitte on his regular throwing schedule and use the left-hander for Monday's series finale against the Twins.

    The hard-throwing, high-energy Chamberlain said his goal is to get six innings in.

    "I have a tendency to get long in counts, so I've got to be more efficient that way," he said, adding: "You're still going to see the same person. I'm going to use my emotions to my advantage. Sometimes I can let them get the most of me and try to do too much."

    New York has been grooming Chamberlain for the rotation since selecting him out of the University of Nebraska with the 41st overall pick in the 2006 amateur draft. After posting a 0.38 ERA in 19 appearances last season, Chamberlain had a 2.28 ERA in 20 games out of the bullpen this year.

    After throwing on the side Friday, the rookie right-hander was excited.

    "I feel great. Everything is going well. Every `i' is dotted, and every 't' is crossed, so far," Chamberlain said.

    There has been plenty of fanfare over his arrival so far. Last year, he was phenomenal down the stretch, striking out 34 and walking only six with 12 hits allowed in 24 innings. Team co-chairman Hank Steinbrenner was vocal earlier this year about wanting him in the rotation.

    Steinbrenner doesn't have to wait any more.

    The Yankees considered using Chamberlain on Monday for a road game to minimize the pressure, but they decided normal rest for Pettitte was more important.

    "Eventually you have to pitch at both places," Girardi said.

    As for the buzz in the Bronx?

    "I don't think it probably matters what I say," Girardi said. "Every time he came out in the bullpen I think people expected him not to give up a run. Unfortunately when there's a lot of hype around a guy, it's hard to control people's expectations."
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  • #2
    Did anyone else hear that Joba said that he isn't just a good hitter for a pitcher that he is a good hitter. I have to see if he is when they play a NL team.

    I guess we'll see how he does starting real soon now.
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    • #3
      So it begins....
      "After my fourth season I asked for $43,000 and General Manager Ed Barrow told me, 'Young man, do you realize Lou Gehrig, a 16-year-man, is playing for only $44,000?' I said, Mr. Barrow, there is only one answer to that - Mr. Gehrig is terribly underpaid."- Yankees outfielder Joe DiMaggio

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      • #4
        Originally posted by nyyfan View Post
        Can't wait to see what he does!
        The wait wasn't worth it. Now can they please forget the idea and put him back where he belongs?
        :cap:

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Silver Blaze View Post
          The wait wasn't worth it. Now can they please forget the idea and put him back where he belongs?
          Actually that is where he belongs. He was never a reliever until last year. He was always a starting pitcher. 8th inning specialty is worthless if you need 4 other pitchers to get to him......

          He'll come around and give us those 6-7 inning quality starts....
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          • #6
            Well that was a waste...
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            • #7
              Originally posted by bryanspellman View Post
              He'll come around and give us those 6-7 inning quality starts....
              What type of logic leads you to believe that?

              Chamberlain could go through the same struggles as Kennedy, Hughes, Buchholz, Miller and the list can go on. While there's rookies who are successful instantly, like Volquez, there's much more than struggle. Chamberlain's dominance in the bullpen might lead people to believe he'll do the same in the rotation instantly. While I do see Chamberlain being a good pitcher, I can see him going through awful outings like these.

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              • #8
                0-1 (Striiiiiiike)
                0-2 (Striiiiiiike)
                1-2
                2-2
                3-2
                Foul
                Foul
                Take yer base, mister!

                Repeat too many times in the 1st inning.

                Me thinks that Joba got the heebie jeebies and was pressing too much. His move is only beneficial if he can get us some wins.

                Great kid, wonderful attitude, but we need to win some games. I think we should try this experiment in 2009.
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Silver Blaze View Post
                  The wait wasn't worth it. Now can they please forget the idea and put him back where he belongs?
                  #18 shares your sentiments, SB:

                  Johnny Damon questions Joba Chamberlain's move out of bullpen
                  You can feel the concern creeping into the Yankee clubhouse. By now the Yankees are practically the home office for slow starts, but the players are all too aware that improved pitching throughout the American League East means it won't be so easy to bludgeon their way to the top this year.

                  "We've seen that early on this year," Johnny Damon was saying at his locker Tuesday. "It's going to be tough to push across a lot of runs. So every game is precious.

                  "We've gotta win the games we should win. We didn't do that on the last road trip. We could have been 5-2. Instead, we went 3-4. That's a big swing."

                  We've gotta win the games we should win.

                  In the language of ballplayers, that translates to not blowing games in the late innings. Which brings us to - what else? - the Joba Chamberlain debate.
                  I'm willing to give him a few more tries, despite what I'd said earlier. Let's see if the media pundits are just as anxious. Heck, even the Op-Ed cartoonist has something to say:



                  Either case, Joba has to get over the butterflies. However, who comes in from the pen after him? His twin brother?
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Mattingly View Post
                    0-1 (Striiiiiiike)
                    0-2 (Striiiiiiike)
                    1-2
                    2-2
                    3-2
                    Foul
                    Foul
                    Take yer base, mister!

                    Repeat too many times in the 1st inning.

                    Me thinks that Joba got the heebie jeebies and was pressing too much. His move is only beneficial if he can get us some wins.

                    Great kid, wonderful attitude, but we need to win some games. I think we should try this experiment in 2009.
                    Matty, I chalk this upto Joba being pumped up and too hyped about the situation. It's alot to take in. Personally, I felt it was too soon and thought this would be done sometime in late June. But it's here now.

                    I'm sure Joba's next start won't be anything like this.
                    "After my fourth season I asked for $43,000 and General Manager Ed Barrow told me, 'Young man, do you realize Lou Gehrig, a 16-year-man, is playing for only $44,000?' I said, Mr. Barrow, there is only one answer to that - Mr. Gehrig is terribly underpaid."- Yankees outfielder Joe DiMaggio

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                    • #11
                      I'm very much in favor of Joba moving to the rotation. However I think the Yankees made a mistake doing it the way they are. You can't have your starting pitcher go out there with a 65 pitch count limit. The Blue Jays knew exactly what was going on. They took as many pitches as they could to get Joba out of the game and start working on the soft underbelly of the Yankees bullpen. If the Yankees put Joba on another pitch limit (and they will) the hitters will do the exact same thing next time. I understand the Yankees have a lack of good starters right now with Hughes and Kennedy being injured/terrible but this move is just stupid.

                      At first I was in favor of moving Joba to the rotation in the middle of the season, but now I think it was a mistake. I really believe the team would have been better of either waiting until next year or putting him in Scanton to stretch him out. But the die has been cast and I don't see the Yankees moving him back. That would be like admitting they made a mistake and as all Yankee fans know Steinbrenner's DO NOT make mistakes. Ever.

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                      I told you not to be stupid you moron.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by bryanspellman View Post
                        Actually that is where he belongs. He was never a reliever until last year. He was always a starting pitcher. 8th inning specialty is worthless if you need 4 other pitchers to get to him......

                        He'll come around and give us those 6-7 inning quality starts....
                        Never underestimate bullpen dominance. Who did more to win for the Yankees in October, the starting pitching or Rivera? Pitching is always important, but you don't win games at the start, you win them at the end. I would argue bullpen and bench are two of the most important factors come October.

                        Let me preempt your reply of "you have to get to October first." That's true, but the Yankees can buy just about any pitching they need. It's those one-run games where a dominant set-up and closer can close it out that often make a lot of difference to a season.
                        :cap:

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Mattingly View Post
                          #18 shares your sentiments, SB:

                          Johnny Damon questions Joba Chamberlain's move out of bullpen

                          I'm willing to give him a few more tries, despite what I'd said earlier. Let's see if the media pundits are just as anxious. Heck, even the Op-Ed cartoonist has something to say:



                          Either case, Joba has to get over the butterflies. However, who comes in from the pen after him? His twin brother?

                          In the cartoon, not only does Joba have a name on the back of his uniform, it's the wrong one, and it's upside down! Not very realistic.....
                          :cap:

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                          • #14
                            Here's Joba's very first pitch as a starting pitcher...


                            (Photo taken June 3, 2008. © Gary Dunaier)


                            ...and, having finished his first inning as a starting pitcher, he receives applause from the Yankee Stadium faithful on his way to the dugout.


                            (Photo taken June 3, 2008. © Gary Dunaier)
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