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2012/2013 New York Yankees Off-Season Thread

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  • Originally posted by NJYankeeFan View Post
    That's why they structured his contract the way they did. He has the option of coming back at reduced salary. Jeter is the one that has to make decision to walk away or only be overpaid less.

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    If he has a similar year to 2012, he won't take that option. He'll want a three year deal.
    Lou Gehrig is the Truest Yankee of them all!

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    • Originally posted by White Knight View Post
      If he has a similar year to 2012, he won't take that option. He'll want a three year deal.
      Then let him be the bad guy and walk. No one would give him 3 more years.

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      • Originally posted by NJYankeeFan View Post
        That's why they structured his contract the way they did. He has the option of coming back at reduced salary. Jeter is the one that has to make decision to walk away or only be overpaid less.

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        You think $8 million is being overpaid if he maintains his second half 2011-2012 performance in 2013? Sure talk about changing positions( which won't happen most likely), but $8 million isn't overpaying for a person who hits .320, gets on base, etc.

        Originally posted by White Knight View Post
        If he has a similar year to 2012, he won't take that option. He'll want a three year deal.
        I'm with NJYankeefan, if Jeter wants 3 years, let him walk. I would personally offer him a 1 year deal worth $13 million with a club option for a 2nd year worth $10 million.

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        • Originally posted by quagmire View Post
          You think $8 million is being overpaid if he maintains his second half 2011-2012 performance in 2013? Sure talk about changing positions( which won't happen most likely), but $8 million isn't overpaying for a person who hits .320, gets on base, etc.



          I'm with NJYankeefan, if Jeter wants 3 years, let him walk. I would personally offer him a 1 year deal worth $13 million with a club option for a 2nd year worth $10 million.
          That is still a lot for a player with negative defensive value. If he is worth 2-3 wins, then $8 mm is in the ballpark fair.

          He will likely decline though.

          I would not offer a club option. Not exercising it would be a media nightmare. This way it is Jeter who is the bad guy in the tabloids if he walks.

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          • Originally posted by quagmire View Post
            You think $8 million is being overpaid if he maintains his second half 2011-2012 performance in 2013? Sure talk about changing positions( which won't happen most likely), but $8 million isn't overpaying for a person who hits .320, gets on base, etc.



            I'm with NJYankeefan, if Jeter wants 3 years, let him walk. I would personally offer him a 1 year deal worth $13 million with a club option for a 2nd year worth $10 million.
            That is still a lot for a player with negative defensive value. If he is worth 2-3 wins, then $8 mm is in the ballpark fair.

            He will likely decline though.

            I would not offer a club option. Not exercising it would be a media nightmare. This way it is Jeter who is the bad guy in the tabloids if he walks.

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            • Originally posted by NJYankeeFan View Post
              That is still a lot for a player with negative defensive value. If he is worth 2-3 wins, then $8 mm is in the ballpark fair.
              FanGraphs calculates the value of 1 WAR at something like $5 million.

              So, $8 million is a pretty big bargain for a 2-3 WAR player, especially one who is a team/city/sport/cultural icon like Jeter.

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              • double post

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                • Originally posted by NJYankeeFan View Post
                  Koufax was not great in any era. he simply had the advantage of pitching when very few good hitters were around.
                  I would actually say that there were more good hitters around then. Today with 14 more teams you have several hundred players who wouldn't
                  even have been close to making it to the majors. Also most of today's hitters are very one dimensional. What's the biggest complaint about
                  the current Yankee team? It's that they can't move runners along. Good fundamentals were valued more back then. BTW, if you had actually
                  seen Koufax back in '63, 64 and 65, you wouldn't be making these ridiculous statements. OK rant over, grandpa's going to go have some warm
                  milk and go take a nap now.

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                  • Originally posted by solderjockey View Post
                    I would actually say that there were more good hitters around then. Today with 14 more teams you have several hundred players who wouldn't even have been close to making it to the majors.
                    Then again, with so many teams (and therefore spots available) players have a chance to make it and absolutely shine where they wouldn't have in a more compressed league. I wonder how many possibly very good players never made it simply because there were so few opportunities to do so back before the expansion boom. I've said it before, so I have to stay with my pretzel logic - athletes have improved over time, and I doubt it's some phenomenon that it happens in every single sport except baseball. We as fans can get lost in the history of this game, but I'm a believer that the human race improves with each decade.
                    "Chuckie doesn't take on 2-0. Chuckie's hackin'." - Chuck Carr two days prior to being released by the Milwaukee Brewers

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                    • Originally posted by NJYankeeFan View Post
                      That is still a lot for a player with negative defensive value. If he is worth 2-3 wins, then $8 mm is in the ballpark fair.

                      He will likely decline though.

                      I would not offer a club option. Not exercising it would be a media nightmare. This way it is Jeter who is the bad guy in the tabloids if he walks.
                      But he would never be the bad guy in the NY tabloids, the team would be the one for not giving him a three year deal when he had a good year. I would give a three year deal at a reduced rate. After all, how else is he going to get to 4,000?
                      Lou Gehrig is the Truest Yankee of them all!

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                      • Originally posted by White Knight View Post
                        But he would never be the bad guy in the NY tabloids, the team would be the one for not giving him a three year deal when he had a good year. I would give a three year deal at a reduced rate. After all, how else is he going to get to 4,000?
                        He does give out a lot of autographs.

                        God. I hope he is not. We are about the same age. Do you remember Pete Rose going for the record? Pathetic.

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                        • Originally posted by filihok View Post
                          FanGraphs calculates the value of 1 WAR at something like $5 million.

                          So, $8 million is a pretty big bargain for a 2-3 WAR player, especially one who is a team/city/sport/cultural icon like Jeter.
                          If he keeps it up. Big if. Chances are his offense will decline and his defense will get even worse.

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                          • More proof that steroids do not work:

                            http://riveraveblues.com/2013/02/pas...-clinic-82120/

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                            • Originally posted by NJYankeeFan View Post
                              More proof that steroids do not work:

                              http://riveraveblues.com/2013/02/pas...-clinic-82120/
                              Why? Cervelli might be a keg softball catcher without them.

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                              • Originally posted by PVNICK View Post
                                Why? Cervelli might be a keg softball catcher without them.
                                You mean you think they made him worse??? I was a keg softball catcher in my day!

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