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  • Looks like we're stuck with Vidro...

    Bill Bavasi strikes again — or rather, he doesn't strike. Frank Thomas is back with the A's. Sigh.

    http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?...=.jsp&c_id=mlb

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    Vidro vs Thomas

    Originally posted by themedia View Post
    Bill Bavasi strikes again — or rather, he doesn't strike. Frank Thomas is back with the A's. Sigh.

    http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?...=.jsp&c_id=mlb
    Jose Vidro started the year batting 7th in the order. After ten games he was moved to the 5th spot and since then Jose has raised his average almost(.100) points to (.208). He had one of two RBI's last night and had that big two RBI hit in the first game of this series with Baltimore. He's a switch hitter and hits equally well from both sides. His on base percentage was over (.400) most of last year and he hit over (.300). I know The Big Hurt's OBP is higher, as well as his HR's, but Vidro only strikes out every (10) at bats. Few guys in the DH spot had as many plate appearances as Vidro in 2007. Just a couple other guys mainly played DH all year in 2007. Ortiz and one or two others. Vidro walked (63) times last year, the third highest of his career and he's on pace for the same this year. Thomas has only hit over (.300) once since 2000 and his OBP has been over (.400) once since 2000. Vidro had (27) more hits last year than Thomas in about the same AB's. Frank Thomas is striking out more the last two years and walking less. He's still not bad for an old guy. He'll be (40) in May. Vidro is at the ripe old age of (34). He's basically at the age were Frank started his decline. Thomas had a few injury plagued years. Vidro gives himself up more than the hurt. Vidro had (5) SH's in 2007 and (8) SF's. Last year, you routinely saw Vidro giving himself up to move runners over, much like Jose Lopez is doing this year. The Mariners are basically a NL club with a DH. The games are well pitched and they are low scoring defense affairs. This could change when the weather warms. Vidro is in a great spot to contribute. If the opposition walks Ibanez or Beltre to get to Vidro, they will be in trouble. Also, with Big Ritchie behind him, he should see some pitches to get him going. Plus, a lead off single by Vidro won't be a rally killer, if Ritchie hits his fair share of taters.

    Another possible prop for those so inclined, is who will be on their respective teams longer ? (a) Vidro w/ M's, or (b) Thomas w/ Oakland ?

    Oakland is playing good ball. It will interesting to see how Thomas fits in. The M's will face Oakland very soon. Oakland arrives for a weekend set Friday.
    Last edited by Rennie Stennett; 04-24-2008, 02:35 PM.

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    • #3
      I'd say you guys are stuck with Sexson vs. Vidro. Richie is making like $15M this year and can barely hit his weight- now that's sad. Just think what that money would get you in Tampa Bay!
      WAR? Prove it!

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      • #4
        hey weather person

        Originally posted by Zito75 View Post
        I'd say you guys are stuck with Sexson vs. Vidro. Richie is making like $15M this year and can barely hit his weight- now that's sad. Just think what that money would get you in Tampa Bay!
        maybe we could buy some sunshine with that kind of money...

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        • #5
          --I doubt we're stuck with Vidro. If he doesn't start hitting there is (or shouldn't be anyway) no way there are going to let him play enough to vest his option for next year. I was okay with the idea of signing Thomas, but it isn;t a disater that we didn't. Clement and Balentin are good options at Tacoma or even Reed coming up to improve the defense and giving Ibanez and/or Wilkerson some rest at DH. Norton should get a few starts too. Vidro will not be the everyday DH if he doesn't perform - and I hope we are looking at other options very soon.

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          • #6
            Yeah, not signing Thomas isn't that big a deal IMO.

            Vidro may or may not be a problem (it's a little early to tell), but we have other options.
            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cDxgNjMTPIs

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            • #7
              It is early this year, and he hasn't been all that bad (15 RBIs), but the problem with Vidro is his steady decline. Look back to 2000, which was his best year, and you'll see a pretty steady decline (other than 2002) from then to now. His average and OBP bounced back last year, but he still only hit 32 extra-base hits. For a DH, we could do better.

              I think either Clement or Valentin would do better with a significant shot to play. Plus, then you're playing for the present and the future. There's no future with Vidro, and he isn't that good in the present.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Rennie Stennett View Post
                maybe we could buy some sunshine with that kind of money...
                Maybe so... And a player like Evan Longoria!
                WAR? Prove it!

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                • #9
                  yes

                  Originally posted by Zito75 View Post
                  Maybe so... And a player like Evan Longoria!
                  The Rays think so. The Montgomery Biscuits. What a great name.

                  -any relation to Eva Longoria ?

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