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  • You had to feel bad for Ichiro last night,even though it meant the USA advanced, when they showed him after the loss.

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    • He's not done yet, Mexico beats USA, so Japan advances... . Well Japan needs to start hitting against Korea's pitching if they want to get to the finals.
      go M's/BSox :gt

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      • So far in this tournament, Ichiro is batting .292 with 7 hits, 1 HR, 3 walks, and 2 SB's (0 CS). Here's hoping he will pick it up - not that he'd doing bad.


        As a side note, everyone was saying they wanted to see the US vs. Cuba (as I did too), but I also wanted to see the US vs. Japan, and I did, and aside from that one bad call, it was a great game, but I haven't really heard anyone say they want to see Cuba vs. Japan.

        Really, I think that would be a great game. Cuba's team is very highly touted, and Japan has a great league to pull from itself, so I guess we shall see if it comes to be.

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        • ...........

          well here we go - Japan vs Cuba is the final matchup

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          • The right spot for Ichiro


            When Ichiro first came over to the Mariners from the Orix BlueWave in Japan, there was talk that he hit third much of his career in Japan. The thought is interesting. Is Ichiro a slugger ? The idea came up again when, against Korea in the semi's of the WBC, Oh had Ichiro hit in the three hole. Ichiro went 3-5 and had a nice two out RBI.

            During his career with the BlueWave and hitting (#3), Ichiro averaged (124) games per year, and hit (.353). He averaged (92) runs, (74) RBI's, (177) hits, (29) doubles, and (16) homers per year. In addition, he averaged (28) stolen bases per year and had a slugging percentage of (.522) These were his averages for when he played fulltime his last (7)years with Orix.

            In Ichiro's five years in the bigs, and hitting leadoff, he averaged (159) games played, (112) runs, (226) hits, (27) doubles, (10) home runs, (62) RBI's, and (38) stolen bases a year. He's slugged (.442) and averaged (.332).

            My biggest disappointment as a fan of both Ichiro and the M's is that it seems Ichiro gets stranded down on 1st base, much of the time. The M's have tried a few guys (Cirillo, ect) out in the two hole, but have never really found a guy that can give himself up and go the other way, when Ichiro is on first. Randy Wynn did good, but it seemed half the time he hit way back in the order and Wynn is a slow starter with his hitting. You think it would be a batter's dream to have the rightside open half the time you are up to bat with #51 sitting down there at first base.

            This topic might deserve it's own thread and this might be the wrong place for this, but what the hell. What do you think ? Should Ichiro hit in the three (3) hole for the M's ???
            Last edited by Rennie Stennett; 03-19-2006, 07:07 PM.

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            • Originally posted by Rennie Stennett
              This topic might deserve it's own thread and this might be the wrong place for this, but what the hell. What do you think ? Should Ichiro hit in the three (3) hole for the M's ???
              With some work, I believe that he could be a good 3 hole hitter, but the problem with that is, it's easier to find a good 3 hole guy than it is to find a great leadoff hitter, so we would be sacrificing that. If we could pick up a decent leadoff hitter, I would love to see Ichiro hit regularly at the #3 spot, but until then, I'd keep him at the top of the order.

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              • Orix BlueWave Manager: Akiri Ogi

                Interesting story about Akiri Ogi, Ichiro's Manager in Japan.

                http://ww1.baywell.ne.jp/fpweb/drlat...nager/blue.htm

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                • Originally posted by Rennie Stennett
                  Interesting story about Akiri Ogi, Ichiro's Manager in Japan.

                  http://ww1.baywell.ne.jp/fpweb/drlat...nager/blue.htm
                  Thanks for sharing that, it was a good read.

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                  • Oh San body-surfs as Japan Wins the WBC

                    Oh San keeps Ichiro in the three hole and Japan wins !
                    Last edited by Rennie Stennett; 03-21-2006, 01:02 AM. Reason: boo, boo

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                    • “ If there's anything I can bring back from America to Japan, I would say that I think the players have more passion in America than the Japanese players do. I don't see anybody who is cool about it, and I had to work hard to catch up to those guys who are really passionate about the game of baseball. ”
                      — Ichiro
                      I find that very interesting,as most baseball experts are saying America has the least passion of all the WBC teams.What do my fellow Ichiroest think about this?

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                      • Ichiro hitting in the three hole ?

                        Ichiro led off in six of his eight Classic games, but he batted in the third position in Japan's lineup in the other two games, including the final.

                        Mariners manager Mike Hargrove has been asked since the winter if he would consider hitting Ichiro in that spot, and while Hargrove admits that he's pondered the situation, a move is "not on the radar" and would have to be discussed with Ichiro first.

                        Ichiro said Thursday that he didn't necessarily have a preference.

                        "It's hard to say," Ichiro said. "I like hitting first, but it's really about what the team needs from me. I want to do whatever is best for the team.

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                        • Ichiro goes 3-3 in first game back from WBC

                          I know it's early, but is Ichiro in mid season form ?

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                          • Could Ichiro Approach Joe D's 56 game hit streak

                            Most of the time, Ichiro gets 5 AB's per game. Do you think this helps him if he goes on a long hit streak ? Ichiro can get hits in bunches, but can he stretch it out to 56 games ?

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                            • Originally posted by Rennie Stennett
                              Most of the time, Ichiro gets 5 AB's per game. Do you think this helps him if he goes on a long hit streak ? Ichiro can get hits in bunches, but can he stretch it out to 56 games ?
                              He deffently is a likely canidate to break it, if anyone does, but I'm not so sure anyone can break that record.

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                              • Well, Ichiro is off to a slow start this season, but nothing to worry about yet, though his .176 BA might suggest so, but while he only has 6 hits, he has scored 5 runs, and he should only be getting better as time goes on.

                                In fact, as I am writing this, the Mariners are playing, and Ichiro has just walked and scored a run - the offense that was so desparately needed against Oakland is starting to rear its little head here against Cleveland.

                                Also, as, Johjima has been off to an excellent start, with 2 HR's, in his first 2 games, and a 3 RBI double so far today, along with everything else, he has probably earned his own thread.

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