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  • #16
    Another option out there is Michael Bourn. He could be a leadoff hitter for us. Not the best hitter out there but solid and has the speed I like at the top. He has experience leading off which would be nice as well.

    Not having a true leadoff hitter really hurt us last year after Ichiro left (though Ich wasn't doing that great beforehand either).

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    • #17
      Originally posted by Edgartohof View Post
      Another option out there is Michael Bourn. He could be a leadoff hitter for us. Not the best hitter out there but solid and has the speed I like at the top. He has experience leading off which would be nice as well.

      Not having a true leadoff hitter really hurt us last year after Ichiro left (though Ich wasn't doing that great beforehand either).
      That can be a problem, though there aren't many traditional leadoff hitters anymore. What do you think gives you the best bang for the buck here?

      Player A: .280/.348/.378 54 SB -13 CS ($17M per season)

      Player B: .288/.344/.344 40 SB -14 CS ($2M per season)

      Player A is Michael Bourn and the average of his last four seasons. Player B is Juan Pierre with the same.

      The main difference between the two would be their arms. Bourn can play CF while Pierre is better off in LF, though he has the legs to get to balls if forced to play CF. The issue I have with Bourn (aside from the money/years it'll take to get him), is that he's reliant on his legs. We here in Philly need a CF as well and there's no way I want Bourn (who was actually one of our prospects some years ago). He gets on base no better than Jaso or Pierre, and in getting Pierre, Jaso can move to #2 in the order looking at the players I listed. The M's could simply go with platoon matchups among Pierre, Carp, Saunders, Gutierrez, etc. with somebody like Swisher playing RF and maybe playing 1B or DH to give him a rest.

      The tough thing for the M's is that they're so far behind the rest of the AL West, that investing too many dollars on FAs over the next 2-3 years might be unwise. If anything, I'd look 3-4 years down the road as the Rangers will be much older as will the Angels and the A's are always a wildcard in how their team looks and holds up. I'd probably look to do small strategic signings to improve the team slightly each year, try to make Felix a lifer, groom the minors, work the payroll so that I can make a pounce in 2015 or so. The tough thing is, when there's so much ground to be made up and you have a 5-7 year FA on your team like Hamilton or Bourn, by the time your ready to make a move on the division, they're on the back end of their deals where they're less likely to produce for the dollars or are flat out failing.

      But moves need to be done wisely. I still don't get the Fister move. I think he would have flourished in that park, and unless the return actually pans out, it could be a huge miss.
      Last edited by Ben Grimm; 11-18-2012, 09:23 AM.
      "Chuckie doesn't take on 2-0. Chuckie's hackin'." - Chuck Carr two days prior to being released by the Milwaukee Brewers

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      • #18
        Well, nix that last idea as the Marlins signed Pierre for $1.6M last night.
        "Chuckie doesn't take on 2-0. Chuckie's hackin'." - Chuck Carr two days prior to being released by the Milwaukee Brewers

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        • #19
          How the Mariners can be contenders
          http://espn.go.com/blog/sweetspot/po...-be-contenders

          David Schoenfield is a Mariners fan.
          The Mets have the best, smartest fans in baseball.

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          • #20
            How the Mariners can be contenders
            http://espn.go.com/blog/sweetspot/po...-be-contenders

            David Schoenfield is a Mariners fan.
            The Mets have the best, smartest fans in baseball.

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            • #21
              The Mariners have designated Chone Figgins for assignment.
              The Mets have the best, smartest fans in baseball.

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              • #22
                Thank Goodness!!! The first real sign that the team actually wants to improve!

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                • #23
                  --Hey we picked up Robert Andino too. Halfway to the World Series now!

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                  • #24
                    So you are saying we dropped Chone Figgins and picked up a near replica of him? Career .235/.295/.323 hitter... really?

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                    • #25
                      --Wells Figgins has hit under .200 each of the last 2 years and made 9M per doing it. Andino should be a little better than that for alot less money (of course we are still paying Figgins too ) and play better defense. Obviously I was joking about him being a big step forward, but he seems like a perfectly decent utility infielder. He will probably be the 24th or 25th player on the roster, but at least he upgrades that spot for what its worth. Baby steps....

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                      • #26
                        And he is there to replace Kawasaki and Figgins. Guess there is always a need for a utility guy.

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                        • #27
                          Craig Robinson quits the Yankees to become a Mariners fan:
                          http://blogs.thescore.com/mlb/2012/1...g-my-religion/
                          The Mets have the best, smartest fans in baseball.

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                          • #28
                            Mariners appear to be one of the three big players for Mike Napoli. Texas and Boston both like him, but seem only willing to go three years while Napoli wants four.
                            "Chuckie doesn't take on 2-0. Chuckie's hackin'." - Chuck Carr two days prior to being released by the Milwaukee Brewers

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                            • #29
                              --Napoli would definately improve the Mariners offense, but he isn't exactly a great fit and 4 years seems too long for a guy with his skill set. As a 1B he is a good, not great, hitter now and probably no better than average before the end of the deal. The M's best 2012 hitter (Jaso), highest ceiling young hitter (Montero) and best prospect (Zanino) are all catcher/DH so Napoli would be addressing one of our strongest areas not one of of main weaknesses.

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by leecemark View Post
                                --Napoli would definately improve the Mariners offense, but he isn't exactly a great fit and 4 years seems too long for a guy with his skill set. As a 1B he is a good, not great, hitter now and probably no better than average before the end of the deal. The M's best 2012 hitter (Jaso), highest ceiling young hitter (Montero) and best prospect (Zanino) are all catcher/DH so Napoli would be addressing one of our strongest areas not one of of main weaknesses.
                                I agree. But the M's are in a bit of a tight spot. They've been losing in recent years, the rest of the division is tough to overcome at this time, and the park history does not exactly welcome hitters when it comes to free agency. Think if you were Napoli. You're 30 years old and with a 3-year deal, you'll likely be back out on the market at 33 (relatively young for a 1B/DH type by then). What will you be able to bring to the table if half of your games in this deal are played in a park that suppresses the one true asset you have - power? He could very well average out a .270 hitter with a 20 HR cap each year in Safeco, wheres Texas or Boston have deeper lineups and/or better hitting parks with which to help push out some big numbers.

                                I think the only way Seattle can really get him is to offer 4 years with a 5th option and/or blow everybody else away money-wise in a 3-year deal.

                                And if it comes to that, I simply cannot see paying for a 2011 year that very well may have been an outlier as his 2010 and 2012 seasons were simply okay - especially in the park he played in.
                                "Chuckie doesn't take on 2-0. Chuckie's hackin'." - Chuck Carr two days prior to being released by the Milwaukee Brewers

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