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  • Jays Prospects Mega-Thread

    This thread is to keep track of all rookies in the Jays minor league system who are highly rated or doing well at all levels of play. This way we can consolodate all of our players into one thread.

    DSL Blue Jays

    GCL Blue Jays

    Bluefield Blue Jays

    Vancouver Canadians

    Lansing: Single A

    Dunedin Blue Jays: Single A

    New Hampshire: Double AA

    Las Vegas 51's: Triple AAA

    Blue Jays Top 15 Prospects:
    1. RHP/ Kyle Drabek 8.0 B
    2. 3B/ Brett Lawrie 8.0 B
    3. RHP/ Zach Stewart 8.0 C
    4. OF/ Anthony Gose 8.0 C
    5. C/ J.P. Arencibia 7.0 C
    6. RHP/ Deck McGuire 7.5 B
    7. RHP/ Chad Jenkins 8.0 C
    8. RHP/ Aaron Sanchez 8.5 D
    9. OF/ Jacob Marisnick 8.5 D
    10. C/ Travis D'Arnaud 7.5 C
    11. SS/ Adeiny Hechavarria 7.5 D
    12. OF/ Eric Thames 7.0 C
    13. RHP/ Henderson Alvarez 8.0 D
    14. RHP/ Asher Wojciechowski
    15. OF/ Marcus Knecht

    Graduated:
    LHP: Marc Rzepczynski
    LF/DH: Travis Snider
    LHP: Ricky Romero
    LHP: Brett Cecil

    Ranking System

    10: Generational Talent, Best ever; Nolan Ryan, Roger Clemmons, Albert Pujols.

    9: MVP Caliber, Wins many awards; Derek Jeter, Cliff Lee, Randy Johnson

    8: All-Star player, plays at a high level for most of their career; Carl Crawford, John Lester, Mark Tiexera

    7: Good Starting Player who could potentially make an all-star team every once in a while; Daisuke Matsuzaka, Jhonny Peralta, Ben Zobrist

    6: Average Major League player with no exceptional qualities; Jose Molina, Nate McLouth, Joe Blanton

    5: Utility Player; Johnny MacDonald, Kevin Slowey, Tony Gwynn Jr


    A: Blue Chip, baring injury should reach his full potential

    B: Very Likely to reach his full potential but there is still some work to do to reach it.

    C: Still has a modest amount of risk before fulfilling his potential.

    D: Not very likely to reach his full potential.
    Last edited by Woodman19; 07-16-2011, 09:51 AM.

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    Kyle Drabek


    Assets: Has a live arm, throws 94-96mph. Has a great Curveball.

    Flaws: Still working on his change-up and Control.

    Comparisons: Ben Sheets, Chad Billingsley

    Rating: 8.0 B

    Career Upside: Has the potential to be a 1-2 type Pitcher. Must work on his change-up to reach Ace status. Likely a perennial 15 game winner.

    Brett Lawrie



    Assets: Very hard working player, does all the small things to help a team win. Great hitter

    Flaws: Defense needs work, he is learning a new position.

    Comparisons: Casey Blake, Aramis Ramirez

    Rating: 8.0 B

    Career Upside: Solid middle of the order bat. Fan favorite player.




    Zach Stewart


    Assets: Has a good slider to go with his good fastball. Lots of sink on his fastball. Throws in the high 90's.

    Flaws: Needs to build up his endurance to become a major league starter. Still needs to work on command.

    Comparisons: Roy Halladay, Derek Lowe

    Rating: 8.0 C

    Career Upside: Has the ability to be a top of the rotation starter 2-3.
    Last edited by Woodman19; 05-25-2011, 10:35 AM.

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    • #3
      Anthony Gose



      Assets: Speed, kid has lightning legs. Plays great defence covering allot of ground with his great speed.

      Flaws: Hitting is not yet polished, needs to work on being more selective at the plate to allow him to get on base.

      Comparisons: Kenny Lofton

      Rating: 8.0 C

      Career Upside: 50 steal threat gold glove center fielder.



      J.P. Arencibia


      Assets: He has the potential to drive in alot of runs due to his above average power.

      Flaws: He is not a defensively sound Catcher, although he has a strong arm.

      Comparisons: A.J. Pierzynski, Brian McCann

      Rating: 7.0 C

      Career Upside: Has the potential to be an average catcher with some power.


      Deck McGuire



      Assets: Has the body of a major league pitcher. Has good control.

      Flaws: Needs to get better movement on his pitches.

      Comparisons: Bartolo Colon

      Rating: 7.5 B

      Career Upside: Inning eater #3-4 pitcher.
      Last edited by Woodman19; 05-25-2011, 01:54 PM.

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        Chad Jenkins


        Assets: Has a strong body built to log many innings. Has a fastball that reaches in the mid to upper 90's. Has strong sink on his fastball.

        Flaws: Needs to work on his control.

        Comparisons: Derek Lowe

        Rating: 8.0 C

        Career Upside: Middle Rotation starter who logs 200 innings.


        Aaron Sanchez



        Assets: Big bodied kid with a great fastball.

        Flaws: Needs to improve control.

        Comparisons: Chris Carpenter

        Rating: 8.5 D

        Career Upside: Staff Ace



        Jake Marisnick


        Assets: Potential 5-Tool Talent, Very Athletic

        Flaws: Needs to learn how to hit pro pitching.

        Comparisons: B.J. Upton

        Rating: 8.5 D

        Career Upside: 5-Tool outfielder.
        Last edited by Woodman19; 05-25-2011, 02:04 PM.

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        • #5
          Travis D'Arnaud



          Assets: Above average speed for a catcher, Developing a good eye at the plate.

          Flaws: Needs work on his defense.

          Comparisons: Brian McCann

          Rating: 7.5 C

          Career Upside: All-star Catcher


          Adeiny Hechevarria



          Assets: Has good size and is very polished Defensively.

          Flaws: Needs to learn how to hit pro pitching. Struggled since he began pro ball.

          Comparisons: Jimmy Rollins

          Rating: 7.5 D

          Career Upside: Has potential to be an All-Star Shortop who can challenge for Gold Glove titles, but first he needs to be able to hit major league pitching.


          Eric Thames




          Assets: Has good power, Chance to drive in runs.

          Flaws: Defence is Average and is a bit older in terms of prospects.

          Comparisons: Martin Prado

          Rating: 7.0 C

          Career Upside: Middle of the Order bat.
          Last edited by Woodman19; 05-25-2011, 02:28 PM.

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          • #6
            Henderson Alvarez

            Assets: Control artist, Has an excellent big league Change-up

            Flaws: Injured since 2010. Needs to get back on the mound and log innings.

            Comparrisons: Greg Maddox

            Rating: 8.0 D

            Career Upside: Has the potential to be a good middle of the rotation starter.
            Last edited by Woodman19; 05-25-2011, 02:29 PM.

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            • #7
              Woodman, impressive little list you've got there. Are those prospects listed your Top 15 or the Top 15 as judged by Baseball America?

              From the little I've seen of some of these pitchers at the Major League level, I'm hardly wowed by the potential. Hopefully the system will get better after you-know-who is outta here.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Greg Maddux's Biggest Fan View Post
                Woodman, impressive little list you've got there. Are those prospects listed your Top 15 or the Top 15 as judged by Baseball America?

                From the little I've seen of some of these pitchers at the Major League level, I'm hardly wowed by the potential. Hopefully the system will get better after you-know-who is outta here.
                It's a List I have compiled to personal preference based off of many different scouting services

                Baseball America
                Baseball Prospectus
                mlb.com
                Sporting News
                ESPN

                as well as individual scouting reports.


                I will try to finish up the player bio's for all 15 I have listed.

                If anyone wishes to discuss where they are rated or anything like that, I can definately move players around based on where they are and rise/fall of status. Infact I plan to modify the order as I just listed them off the top of my head

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Woodman19 View Post
                  It's a List I have compiled to personal preference based off of many different scouting services

                  Baseball America
                  Baseball Prospectus
                  mlb.com
                  Sporting News
                  ESPN

                  as well as individual scouting reports.


                  I will try to finish up the player bio's for all 15 I have listed.

                  If anyone wishes to discuss where they are rated or anything like that, I can definately move players around based on where they are and rise/fall of status. Infact I plan to modify the order as I just listed them off the top of my head
                  I would weigh-in, but I don't really know about the prospects other from what I've seen. I do frequent BA website often, but ususally non-Jay players are profiled. I've already stated my opinion on Rzepcynski and Mills - not favorable so far (of course this could change with increase in velocity or pitch repetoire etc).

                  As for Romero, I'm not really sold on him yet, despite the promising rookie year. As you've indicated, he doesn't miss many bats and I don't find his curveball that exciting. Changeup looks about average. If Romero is not on and hitting his spots, he's going to get hit hard. Cecil looks like the best potential out of the pitchers besides Litsch I would say. He's too much of a thrower right now though. To me it looks like he humps on the fastball too much; trying to overthrow too much past hitters. It doesn't look like he trusts his stuff as of yet. Looks like he will develop a plus cutter and changeup. Reminds me of young Andy Pettite.

                  As for Snider, like the swing & power. He lacked plate discipline earlier this year but if that develops, could be a 30 HR guy. Judging by Arencibia stats in Triple AAA, he's way too much of a free swinger. He needs better pitch selection to be a ML hitter. The rest I don't know about really.

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                  • #10
                    And thus concludes my review of the top 15 players


                    I now open this up for discussing possible changing of the order the addition/subtraction of the system.

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                    • #11
                      I have to say, I'm surprised Ray is so high. I haven't heard anything about him before he was brought up and he did do a decent job, but I didn't think that he'd shoot up the prospect rankings so fast.

                      1 player I'd like to mention is Brian Jeroloman. He's pretty much never going to make an MLB team as a starter because his bat is pretty bad, but his defence is MLB ready from what I've heard and I think he'd be a great role player coming off the bench for us in the future. Maybe an offense (Arencibia)/defense (Jeroloman) combo?

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                      • #12
                        Anybody have any honourable mentions of players we can add to this list?

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Woodman19 View Post
                          Anybody have any honourable mentions of players we can add to this list?
                          I think you pretty much covered it. Ahrens is having a terrible year though
                          Last edited by Greg Maddux's Biggest Fan; 08-28-2009, 09:58 AM.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Greg Maddux's Biggest Fan View Post
                            I think you pretty much covered it. Ahrens is having a terrible year though
                            So is Justin Jackson. However Rios struggled at a similar age, so I wont count them out until back to back horrid years. They can still rebound.

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                            • #15
                              Arencibia might be turning it around

                              He has had a few good games at the plate recently

                              He went 3-4 with a HR the other night and has pushed his average up from .210 to .231

                              Defensively he has improved even further this year and is described as a "Excellent" defensive catcher.

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