All-time Toronto Blue Jays team

[Mariano_Rivera]

Can a mod who is knowledgable about Jay's history add a poll to this thread?

I want the results for the All-Time position by position battle. I have a thread about it in the history forum if you're interested.

[bluejaysfan]

1B- Carlos Delgado
2B- Roberto Alomar
SS- Tony Fernandez
3B- Kelly Gruber
OF- Joe Carter/Jesse Barfield
OF- Lloyd Moseby
OF- George Bell
C- Ernie Whitt
DH- Paul Molitor

SP- Dave Stieb
SP- Jimmy Key
SP- Roy Halladay
SP- Pat Hentgen
SP- Jim Clancy

RP- Jim Acker
RP- Duane Ward
RP- Paul Quantrill
RP- Tom Henke

Manager- Cito Gaston

[bluejaysfan93]

What's your all-time Toronto Blue Jays team? Here's mine and feel free to comment.

1B:Carlos Delgado (C/LF) 2B:Roberto Alomar
3B:Rance Mulliniks (2B/SS)
SS:Tony Fernandez (2B/3B)
Cerren Fletcher (my fav!)
LF:George Bell (2B/3B) (this guy hit alot of doubles)
CF:Shannon Stewart (OF) (alot of hits in 2001 and high enough hitting %)
RF:Joe Carter (1B/OF) (although not a high hitting %, he came clutch at the 1993 WS)
Util:Shawn Green I cant remember what he played so Ill stick him at 2
Al Woods (OF)
Lloyd Moseby (OF)




SP:Jimmy Key
Dave Stieb
Roy Halladay
Juan Guzman
Roger Clemmons (I hate the guy but he is good)


RP/CP:Tom Henke
Mike Timlin
Roy Lee Jackson

Manager:Cito Gaston

[Knick9]

The polls are closed and tallied up, and with few spots remaining, the all time Blue Jay roster is like this:

(fielding/hitting: 15 spots available)

1B:Carlos Delgado (4 votes), John Olerud (3 votes)

2B:Roberto Alomar (6 votes)

3B:Kelly Gruber (3 votes), Rance Mulliniks (2 votes)

SS:Tony Fernandez (6 votes),Alfredo Griffin (2 votes)

C:Pat Borders (4 votes), Ernie Whitt (3 votes)

OF:Joe Carter (7 votes), George Bell (4 votes), Lloyd Moseby (3 votes), Shannon Stewart (3 votes), Devon White (3 votes)

Utility/Bench:-None

Outside looking in: (1 spot remains; who gets it?)

2B Damaso Garcia
OF Jesse Barfield
OF Shawn Green
OF Al Woods
OF Willie Upshaw


(Starting Pitching; 5 spots available)

SP:Jimmy Key (7 votes)
Dave Steib (7 votes)
Roy Halladay (4 votes)
Juan Guzman (4 votes)
David Wells (4 votes)

(Relief/Closing pitching; 5 spots available)

RP/CP:Tom Henke (6 votes)
Duane Ward (4 votes)
Paul Quantrill (3 votes)
Mike Timlin (2 votes)


Outside looking in: (1 spot remains for the bullpen)

RP/CP:Roy Lee Jackson
Mark Eichhorn
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Alright, so who gets the last spot in the hitting squad? Who will start in the field? Who makes the bullpen between Jackson and Eichhorn? Discuss.

[Big_Mac]

hmmm, i'd go with

c - whitt
1b - olerud/delgado
2b - alomar
ss - griffen
3b - fernandez
of - carter, bell, devo, barfield
dh - moliter

sp - key, morris, stieb, guzman, clemens
rp - henke, ward, quantrill

[Shoeless]

Why's everybody taking Carter over Green for OF? I say Bell, Green and Barfield. Devo's glove is amazing, but statistically, I don't think the variability in OF defense at the big-league level affects the outcome of games nearly enough to justify him over those three. Maybe put him the bench in hopes of convincing Bell to DH...uh, right. Anyway, Barfield's defense was pretty amazing too.
On Mulliniks vs Gruber, I'd take Gruber, for speed and power. Rance platooned with Iorg; if you can fill a position without platooning, that gives you flexibility at other positions.

How do we get Carlos and Olerud both in? if one DHs then we can't have Molitor (assuming the uncontroversial Alomar and Fernandez)--but then again, what's the length-of-service criterion?

Oh well, this is more fun that watching this year's crew will be.

Henke and Ward, for sure. Mark Eichorn if we're going by single-season peak value (that 86 season still amazes me!) Starters other than Key and Stieb depend on the inclusion criterion.

[Knick9]

Attention:1 week remains for you to fill out your entries for the all-time Blue Jays team, so get those entries in.

Once the week has passed, we will start discussing about who out of the chosen, makes the 25 man roster.

[stromey]

C - Pat Borders/ Ernie Whitt
1B - John Olerud/Carlos Delgado/ John Mayberry
2B - Roberto Alomar
SS - Tony Fernandez/ Alfredo Griffen
3B - Kelly Gruber
OF - Llyod Moseby, George Bell, Joe Carter, Willie Upshaw, Jesse Barfield, Shawn Green, Rickey Henderson.....I think this has been a big strength for the Blue Jays
DH - Paul Molitor, Rico Carty, Dave Winfield
Pitching - Dave Stieb, Jimmy Key, Roger Clemens, David Wells, Jack Morris, Juan Guzman, Jim Clancy, Roy Halladay, Dave Stewart, David Cone, Al Leiter, Pat Hentgen, Woody Williams

Relievers - Tom Henke, Duane Ward, Paul Quantrill, Jim Acker

Manager - Bobby Cox, Cito Gaston

[HDH]

C Ernie Whitt
1B Carlos Delgado
2B Roberto Alomar
SS Tony Fernandez
3B Kelly Gruber
CF Lloyde Moesby
RF Joe Carter
LF Shannon Stewert
DH George Bell

SP Dave Steib
SP Jimmy Key
SP Pat Hentegan
SP Jim Clancy

RP Tom Henke

[WinnipegJaysFan]

Getting back to Mulliniks again, I read that he'll be doing colour-commentary for Sportsnet for 28 games this year. Go Rance!

[Jayme]

C Pat Borders/Lance Parrish

1B John Olerud/Carlos Delgado

2B Robbie Alomar

3B Kelly Gruber/Rance Mulliniks

SS Tony Fernandez/Alex Gonzalez

OF George Bell/Jesse Barfield

OF Devon White/Shannon Stewart

OF Joe Carter/Raul Mondesi

DH Paul Molitor/Dave Winfield

SP Jimmy Key/David Wells/Pat Hentgen/Roger Clemens/Roy Halladay

Bullpen Paul Quantrill/Mike Timlin/Duane Ward
Closer Tom Henke

Some just because i enjoyed watching them in a Jays uniform!

[Vlad4040]

What about Kelly Gruber?

1B:Carlos Delgado (Agreed)
2B:Roberto Alomar (Agreed but 'cause he spit in an Umps face I have to go with Damaso Garcia)
3B:Rance Mulliniks (Kelly Gruber GG)
SS:Tony Fernandez (Agreed but I liked watching Alfredo Griffin).
C:Ernie Whitt (Agreed)
LF:George Bell (Agreed - Jorge for sure)
CF:Stewart (Lloyd Moseby but soon to be Rios)
RF:Joe Carter (Agreed but Jesse Barfield was my fav)

SP:
Dave Stieb (Agreed)
Jimmy Key (Agreed)
Roy Halladay (Could move up on the list)

[tonyc123]

I'd go for

C Pat Borders

1B Carlos Delgado

2B Robbie Alomar

3B Rance Mulliniks

SS Tony Fernandez

OF George Bell

OF Devon White

OF Joe Carter

DH Cecil Fielder

Utility:

Garth Iorg
Jeff Kent
Shawn Green

Pitching: (Assuming all at peak performance !)

Dave Stieb
Juan Guzman
Jimmy Key
David Wells
David Cone

Relievers/Closers

Mark Eichhorn
Duane Ward
Tom Henke

Manager:

Bobby Cox

[rudy]

Looks good to me, but I'd take Devon White over Stewart for centre (infinitely better defense), and would have to make Duane Ward one of my relievers.

I like your choice of Rance Mulliniks. Never had spectacular stats, wasn't a flashy guy, but solid and dependable. One of my all-time faves!

Peg...you beat me to it....these were the EXACT suggestions I was going to make too....

[WinnipegJaysFan]

Looks good to me, but I'd take Devon White over Stewart for centre (infinitely better defense), and would have to make Duane Ward one of my relievers.

I like your choice of Rance Mulliniks. Never had spectacular stats, wasn't a flashy guy, but solid and dependable. One of my all-time faves!