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  • #16
    Another Near Perfect Game

    Although he is remembered for his home runs, Babe Ruth belongs on the list of near perfect games. Once when he was still in Boston, I believe, the starting pitcher got ejected after facing just one batter. Ruth came in and retired the next 27 in a row. Anyone know the date of this game?

    - Compy

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    • #17
      Re: Another Near Perfect Game

      Originally posted by Compy90_2000
      Although he is remembered for his home runs, Babe Ruth belongs on the list of near perfect games. Once when he was still in Boston, I believe, the starting pitcher got ejected after facing just one batter. Ruth came in and retired the next 27 in a row. Anyone know the date of this game?

      - Compy
      Actually, you've got that reversed. On June 23, 1917, Ruth started the game against Washington. He pitched to one batter, walked him, and was ejected for arguing balls and strikes. Ernie Shore then came in, picked off the guy on first, and retired the next 26 batters.

      Until Major League Baseball went through their records in the early '90s and cleaned out their records of perfect games and no-hitters, Ernie Shore was credited with a perfect game. As it stands, Ruth and Shore are credited with a combined no-hitter.

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      • #18
        For some strange reason, the name Harvey Haddix keeps bouncing around in my memory....Something about 12 innings???
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        • #19
          Originally posted by lamearm
          For some strange reason, the name Harvey Haddix keeps bouncing around in my memory....Something about 12 innings???
          Well aware of that game, you could also include Pedro Martinez on that list. However, I'm referring to official no-hitters (which neither of those games were) where the pitcher faced the major league minimum.

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          • #20
            Harvey Haddix!

            Harvey Haddix pitched 12 innings of a perfect game against the Braves in 1959 but his no-hitter AND the game on a homer in the 13th. There has never been a pitcher that's thrown 12 perfect innings in a game, let alone lost it! I'm surprised you bumpkins missed him on your list.

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            • #21
              Here's a list I put together awhile back. I haven't updated it in several months, so there are still a few holes in there, but most are from the 1800s or early 1900s:
              RETIRING FIRST 26+ BATTERS THEN ALLOWING BASERUNNER
              N.L.-
              7/4/1908 Hooks Wiltse, New York vs. Philadelphia, game 1, hit opposing pitcher (on 0-2 count) (10 innings) (26 batters)
              5/26/1959 Harvey Haddix, Pittsburgh vs. Milwaukee, error by 3rd baseman Don Hoak allowed Felix Mantilla to reach base in 13th (36 batters)
              9/2/1972 Milt Pappas, Cubs vs. San Diego, walked Larry Stahl (after having 1-2 count) (26 batters)
              5/2/1988 Ron Robinson, Cincinnati vs. Montreal, single by Wallace Johnson (26 batters)
              6/3/1995 Pedro Martinez, Montreal vs. San Diego, double by Bip Roberts leading off 10th (27 batters)
              A.L.-
              8/5/1932 Tommy Bridges, Detroit vs. Washington, single by Dave Harris (26 batters)
              6/27/1958 Billy Pierce, Chicago vs. Washington, double by PH Ed Fitzgerald (first pitch) (26 batters)
              4/15/1983 Milt Wilcox, Detroit at Chicago, single by Jerry Hairston (26 batters)
              8/4/1989 Dave Stieb, Toronto vs. New York, double by Roberto Kelly (on 2-0 pitch) (26 batters)
              4/20/1990 Brian Holman, Seattle vs. Oakland, home run by Ken Phelps (26 batters)
              9/2/2001 Mike Mussina, New York vs. Boston, single by Carl Everett (on 1-2 pitch) (26 batters)


              PERFECT GAMES BUT A HIT BATTER OR ERROR
              A.A.- 5/24/1884 Al Atkinson, Philadelphia vs. Pittsburgh, hit Ed Swartwood to leadoff game
              N.L.-
              8/19/1880 Larry Corcoran, Chicago vs. Boston, 4 men reached on errors
              8/20/1880 Pud Galvin, Buffalo vs. Worcester, 6 men reached on errors
              7/25/1883 Charles Radbourn, Providence vs. Cleveland, error by___________
              8/4/1884 Pud Galvin, Buffalo vs. Detroit, error by ____________
              8/9/1884 Charlie Buffinton, Boston vs. Providence, 5 men reached on errors
              7/27/1885 John Clarkson, Chicago vs. Providence, 3 men reached on errors (one DP turned)
              9/18/1897 Cy Young, Cleveland vs. Cincinnati, first game, 4 men reached on errors
              6/13/1905 Christy Mathewson, New York vs. Chicago, 2 men reached on errors (one DP turned)
              7/4/1908 Hooks Wiltse, New York vs. Philadelphia, first game, 10 innings, hit in 9th
              9/5/1908 Nap Rucker, Brooklyn vs. Boston, second game, 3 men reached on errors
              8/18/1960 Lew Burdette, Milwaukee vs. Philadelphia, hit Tony Gonzalez in fifth
              7/20/1970 Bill Singer, Los Angeles vs. Philadelphia, 2 men reach on errors
              6/27/1980 Jerry Reuss, Los Angeles vs. San Francisco, throwing error by shortstop Bill Russell in 1st
              9/26/1983 Bob Forsch, St. Louis vs. Montreal, error by 2nd baseman Ken Oberkfell, hit Gary Carter in 2nd
              8/15/1990 Terry Mulholland, San Francisco vs. Philadelphia, throwing error by 3rd baseman Charlie Hayes in 7th (out in DP)
              6/10/1997 Kevin Brown, Florida vs. San Francisco, hit Marvin Benard in 8th
              A.L.-
              8/30/1910 Tom Hughes, New York vs. Cleveland, error by __________
              7/1/1920 Walter Johnson, Washington vs. Boston, second baseman Dave Harris booted a grounder in 7th
              9/3/1947 Bill McCahan, Philadelphia vs. Washington, first baseman Ferris Fain threw wildly to McCahan who came over to cover 1st in 2nd
              9/10/1967 Joel Horlen, Chicago vs. Detroit, first game, error by 1st baseman Ken Boyer in 5th, hit Bill Freehan in 3rd
              7/19/1974 Dick Bosman, Cleveland vs. Oakland, throwing error by Bosman in 4th

              FIRST BATTER REACHES, THEN 27 RETIRED STRAIGHT
              A.A.- 5/24/1883 Al Atkinson, Philadelphia vs. Pittsburgh (hit Ed Swartwood, who stole 2nd, went to 3rd on putout, and scored on passed ball)
              A.L.-
              6/30/1908 Cy Young, Boston vs. New York (walked leadoff batter) (Baserunner was CS)
              6/23/1917 (1st game) Babe Ruth and Ernie Shore, Boston vs. Washington (Ruth walked leadoff man and was ejected; base runner was CS; Shore retired next 26 consecutively)
              4/22/1993 Chris Bosio, Seattle vs. Boston (walked first 2 batters, threw DP ball, then retired 26 consecutively)
              N.L.-
              7/23/1880 Monte Ward, Providence vs. Cincinnati (single by Blondie Purcell to leadoff game)
              5/16/1953 Curt Simmons, Philadelphia vs. Milwaukee (single by Bill Bruten to leadoff game)
              5/13/1954 Robin Roberts, Philadelphia vs. Cincinnati (home run by Bobby Adams to leadoff game)
              7/1/1966 Woodie Fryman, Pittsburgh vs. New York (single to Ron Hunt to leadoff game)
              5/19/1981 Jim Bibby, Pittsburgh vs. Atlanta (single by Terry Harper to leadoff game)

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              • #22
                you guys mention all of these picthers but you have forgotten to mention the most heartbraking one of them all:

                12 perfect innings by harvey haddux (pittsburgh) before LOSING in the 13th!

                if i was him i would have gone home, bought a semi-automatic gun and shot everyone of the pirates in the lineup who didn't score a run for him.

                that just sux
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                • #23
                  Haddix bitter

                  People HAVE mentioned Haddix' game 3 or 4 times in this forum. you and Bum need to focus! can you imagine how Hoak felt to ruin it with a damned error!? I'd like to see a film of that error and the reactions. Haddix threw it against the Braves, too, one of the best-hitting teams of all time. he was pissed afterward. He said something bitter, like "you can't count on your team to do anything for you, and then they'll do even less."

                  Dave Stieb came within an out or two of 2 no-hitters in 2 starts. the second time, when a blooper ruined it, Stieb just stood and stared at the hitter, who stood and stared back. people didn't like Stieb, even his own team.

                  the year that Ron Robinson came within one out of a perfect game, Tom Browning came within an out of a no-hitter, and then DID pitch a perfect game, and they did all 3 within about a month, late in the year. It was weird.

                  Floyd Bevins, Yankees, 1947 Series, lost a no-hitter and the game with 2 out in the 9th.

                  Jim Barr of San Francisco retired 41 straight batters in relief.

                  Wasn't Bobby Witt's perfect game 5 innings long?

                  after Johnny Vander Meer threw two consecutive no-hitters, Cincinnati's Ewell Blackwell threw a no-hitter, then came within one out of throwing 2 in a row.
                  Why you do this to me, Dimi?

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                  • #24
                    I'm no longer one to be tooting Mike Mussina's horn, but to be fair he hasn't just come within 3 outs of 2 perfect games....he's come within 7 outs of 3 (maybe 8, at most). He had his game with the Yankees vs. the Red Sox where Carl Everett got the hit with 2 outs in the ninth. He had his game with the Orioles vs. Cleveland where Sandy Alomar, Jr. laced a single to left with 1 out in the ninth. And he had a game with the Orioles vs. Detroit where Frank Catalanatto broke up a perfect game with 2 (maybe 1) out in the eighth, I believe with a double.
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                    • #25
                      I was at the Mussina/Boston game. Too bad for Pedro in Montreal, too.

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                      • #26
                        I remember watching the Game where Mike Mussina was only one out from pitching a perfect game, but the batter got a basehit. I felt so bad for him.

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                        • #27
                          Didn't Mark Buehrle have a SHO of Cleveland with 27 BFP? JUST FOR 2004 that's probably notable, but that was just last season.

                          Poor Stieb. How can Blue Jays hate their best pitcher ever?
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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by Bushrod
                            Dave Stieb came within an out or two of 2 no-hitters in 2 starts. the second time, when a blooper ruined it, Stieb just stood and stared at the hitter, who stood and stared back.
                            I thought it was three out of four starts
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                            • #29
                              Now who was the winning pitcher in that game?

                              Originally posted by Communist_Bum
                              Harvey Haddix pitched 12 innings of a perfect game against the Braves in 1959 but his no-hitter AND the game on a homer in the 13th. There has never been a pitcher that's thrown 12 perfect innings in a game, let alone lost it! I'm surprised you bumpkins missed him on your list.
                              Great post, I was wondering the same thing.

                              Here are more questions:

                              Who was the winning pitcher in that game?

                              Who broke up the no-hitter?

                              Why was the hit value of that final hit and final score changed?
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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by Bluesteve32
                                Great post, I was wondering the same thing.

                                Here are more questions:

                                Who was the winning pitcher in that game?

                                Who broke up the no-hitter?

                                Why was the hit value of that final hit and final score changed?
                                The winning pitcher was Lew Burdette. In the bottom half of the 13th, Felix Mantilla reached first on Don Hoak's throwing error. Eddie Matthews sacrificed Mantilla to second and Hank Aaron was intentionally walked. Joe Adcock hit a homer over the right-center field fence but was declared out for passing Aaron who had cut across the diamond without touching third base, between second and third. The hit was eventually ruled a double. Burdette won with a 12 hit performance.
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