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  • #1

    Worst Earned Run Averages (ERAs)

    Hello Baseball Fever Fans,

    I was answering a question over on Baseball Almanac about hall of fame pitchers with the worst ERA and gave this list of those with an ERA above 3.59:

    1. 3.80 : Red Ruffing
    2. 3.67 : Ted Lyons
    3. 3.64 : Jesse Haines
    4. 3.60 : Herb Pennock

    This made me wonder about pitchers in general who had some of the worst earned run averages ever. I set some levels so it could be fair and came up with the following names:

    100 IP : 8.86 Andy Larkin
    250 IP : 6.99 Bill Kissinger
    400 IP : 6.74 Jim Walkup
    800 IP : 5.84 Claude Willoughby
    1,000 IP : 5.11 Mike Sullivan

    Plenty of other levels for you to take a look at, but I hope you enjoyed this brief list nonetheless. Reply with other plateaus if you do the research and share with us your findings...

    Sean
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    If this is correct:
    75 IP Andy Larkin 8.96?
    60 IP Charlie Stecher 10.32
    40 IP Stu Flythe, 13.12
    20 IP Sid Schacht, 15.00
    15 IP June Greene, 18.95
    6 IP Jim Brady, 29.51
    Mythical SF Chronicle scouting report: "That Jeff runs like a deer. Unfortunately, he also hits AND throws like one." I am Venus DeMilo - NO ARM! I can play like a big leaguer, I can field like Luzinski, run like Lombardi. The secret to managing is keeping the ones who hate you away from the undecided ones. I am a triumph of quantity over quality. I'm almost useful, every village needs an idiot.
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    • #3
      Some are HOFers and some or not...worse ERAs

      2000 IP Kid Carsey 4.95
      3000 IP Earl Whitehill 4.36
      4000 IP Gus Weyhing 3.89
      5000 IP Phil Niekro 3.35
      6000 IP Jim Galvin 2.85
      7000 IP Cy Young 2.63
      Last edited by chanceron; 04-30-2005, 05:57 AM.

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      • #4
        Well how many people actually pitched 7000 innings?
        "I don't like to sound egotistical, but every time I stepped up to the plate with a bat in my hands, I couldn't help but feel sorry for the pitcher."
        -Rogers Hornsby-

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        -Rogers Hornsby-

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Cubsfan97
          Well how many people actually pitched 7000 innings?
          Only Cy Young did it. For your info, Pud Galvin is also the only one with 6000 + IP, and there are 10 guys who have 5000 +.

          Claude
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          • #6
            Originally posted by Cubsfan97
            Well how many people actually pitched 7000 innings?
            This got me curious too. The first guy who came to mind was Walter Johnson, and I see he was just short of 6000 (5914). Then I wondered about Christy Mathewson, but even he didn't make 5000 (4780).

            If I'm not mistaken, the guy with the highest tangible (non-infinite) ERA is Joe Cleary at 189.00, thanks to the 7 ER he surrendered in his 1/3 inning career in 1945.

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            • #7
              Special acknowledgement for futility should go to Jim Brady, for having recorded the most outs while giving up more earned runs that outs. He recorded 19 outs and gave up 20 earned runs. Tough to do.
              Last edited by Brooklyn; 01-04-2006, 08:19 AM.

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              • #8
                I forgot about Joe Cleary. China's Shuai Li had a 40.50 ERA in 2/3 innings during a World Baseball Classic game last weekend.

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                • #9
                  Worst E.R.A.'s

                  How about single season Starters? I guess this could be a seperate thread. Some come to mind:

                  1) Bobo Newsome 1938 Browns 20-16 5.08 E.R.A.
                  2) Rick Helling 1998 Rangers 20-7 4.41
                  3) Jim Merritt 1970 Reds 20-12 4.08
                  4) Dan Spillner 1980 Indians 16-11 5.29
                  5) Len Barker 1980 Indians 19-12 4.17

                  These are,of course,before this crazy era of 4.25 E.R.A.s being respectable!

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by JohnGelnarFan
                    How about single season Starters? I guess this could be a seperate thread. Some come to mind:

                    5) Len Barker 1980 Indians 19-12 4.17
                    You call that bad, another Indian, Milt Shofner's 7.03
                    Mythical SF Chronicle scouting report: "That Jeff runs like a deer. Unfortunately, he also hits AND throws like one." I am Venus DeMilo - NO ARM! I can play like a big leaguer, I can field like Luzinski, run like Lombardi. The secret to managing is keeping the ones who hate you away from the undecided ones. I am a triumph of quantity over quality. I'm almost useful, every village needs an idiot.
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                    • #11
                      High E.R.A.s

                      Mine were regulars in the rotation and pitched at least 190 innings but that's bad for anyone that gets into a number of games.I looked him up and he actually had back to back years over 7.20! The first,In 1930,he was 3-4 with a 7.97 In 24 games and 10 starts,he pitched 84.2 Innings.His numbers were awful! In 1931,he was 2-3 with a7.24. He pitched in 12 games,4 starts and 41 Innings. He was Ok for a few years after that. Amazing that he got another shot. How do you know about this Guy??!!

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by JohnGelnarFan
                        Mine were regulars in the rotation and pitched at least 190 innings but that's bad for anyone that gets into a number of games.I looked him up and he actually had back to back years over 7.20! The first,In 1930,he was 3-4 with a 7.97 In 24 games and 10 starts,he pitched 84.2 Innings.His numbers were awful! In 1931,he was 2-3 with a7.24. He pitched in 12 games,4 starts and 41 Innings. He was Ok for a few years after that. Amazing that he got another shot. How do you know about this Guy??!!
                        They used to have a thing on the radio every once in a while about worst Indian stiffs, so I started researching
                        Mythical SF Chronicle scouting report: "That Jeff runs like a deer. Unfortunately, he also hits AND throws like one." I am Venus DeMilo - NO ARM! I can play like a big leaguer, I can field like Luzinski, run like Lombardi. The secret to managing is keeping the ones who hate you away from the undecided ones. I am a triumph of quantity over quality. I'm almost useful, every village needs an idiot.
                        Good traders: MadHatter(2), BoofBonser26, StormSurge

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                        • #13
                          Shofner

                          That's a great thing to share with fans.Do you remember any of the other names(Stiffs)?

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by JohnGelnarFan
                            That's a great thing to share with fans.Do you remember any of the other names(Stiffs)?
                            I made up my own list, and some of them are short-timers. I hope you can stomach this
                            P-Jose Roman
                            P-Jeff Mutis
                            P-Denis Boucher
                            P-Ross Grimsley
                            C-Scooter Tucker
                            1B-Bill Schwartz
                            2B-Gus Gil
                            3B-Kurt Bevacqua
                            SS-Houston Jimenez
                            OF-Larry Littleton
                            OF-Otto Velez
                            OF-Arthur Hauger
                            Mythical SF Chronicle scouting report: "That Jeff runs like a deer. Unfortunately, he also hits AND throws like one." I am Venus DeMilo - NO ARM! I can play like a big leaguer, I can field like Luzinski, run like Lombardi. The secret to managing is keeping the ones who hate you away from the undecided ones. I am a triumph of quantity over quality. I'm almost useful, every village needs an idiot.
                            Good traders: MadHatter(2), BoofBonser26, StormSurge

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                            • #15
                              In the modern era some of the single season bad boys by range were:

                              100 - 199 IP's Leo Sweetland 7.71
                              200 - 299 IP's Pedro Astacio 6.23
                              300 - 399 IP's Snake Wiltse 5.13
                              400+ IP's Joe Mc Ginnity 2.43
                              Buck O'Neil: The Monarch of Baseball

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