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    Hello Gentleman.
    I have been frequenting the ESPN boards for a while and a recent thread was posted regarding plagurisum. There have been quite a few posts from users here showing up almost verbatum with no credit given by a user named Cyril Oreily.

    ESPN Cyril Oriely
    http://forums.espn.go.com/espn/messa...ageID=20149829
    Baseball fever. Imapotato
    http://www.baseball-fever.com/showth...768#post485768

    ESPN Cyril Oreily
    http://forums.espn.go.com/espn/messa...ageID=20048749
    Negro league HOF voting Imapotato
    http://www.baseball-fever.com/showth...165#post484165

    ESPN Cyril Oreily
    http://forums.espn.go.com/espn/messa...ageID=20235618
    Baseball Fever West Coast Orange and Black
    http://www.baseball-fever.com/showth...780#post462780

    ESPN Cyril Oriely
    http://forums.espn.go.com/espn/messa...ageID=20371597
    Baseball Fever. Splintergroup.
    http://www.baseball-fever.com/showth...443#post489443


    Unfortunately it has been also done here by poster Dontworry

    Baseball Fever Don’t Worry
    http://www.baseball-fever.com/showth...426#post489426
    ESPN Yankees319
    http://forums.espn.go.com/espn/messa...ageID=20349395

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    Don’tworry
    http://www.baseball-fever.com/showthread.php?t=39943
    ESPN by LandsharkSF
    http://forums.espn.go.com/espn/threa...readID=3220963

    Kenny Williams Baseball Fever Don’t Worry
    http://www.baseball-fever.com/showthread.php?t=40077
    ESPN by Bri Boy24
    http://forums.espn.go.com/espn/threa...28&sortBy=null

    Manny Ramirez Vs. Dick Allen Don’t Worry
    http://www.baseball-fever.com/showth...068#post488068
    JohnQ1969
    http://forums.espn.go.com/espn/messa...ageID=20203492

    I just thought people here would want to know.
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    Thanks for the heads up, people are just amazing :grouchy
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    • #3
      You know, it's at least good to know that we're known as a source of excellent baseball discussion.
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      • #4
        good work inspector!
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        • #5
          sharing historical information is one thing - it helps us all gain a greater understanding of the facts - but adopting another's opinions and calling them your own is another matter - i have spent a lifetime gaining an understanding of this game - apparently some are content to take the short route - in the end they know no more at the end of the day as they did when it started - unless one has an array of user names, i, for one, am making an addition to my ignore list

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          • #6
            This is a true shame.

            If we don't have our own thoughts/opinions to express and share with eachother; then what do we have?

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            • #7
              If we don't have our own thoughts/opinions to express and share with eachother; then what do we have?
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              • #8
                Well put.

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                • #9
                  I'm moving this to the Web Improvements forum, from Current Events, since it's more about the forum than baseball itself.

                  We the various Mods are discussing this at the moment.
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                  • #10
                    Are there any of mine, do they like me better over there?

                    Seriously, this is a shame, it was only a matter of time before something like this happened. I was just hoping that I wouldn't see this phenomenon happening for the first time in something written by a popular baseball writer or in a book I bought that somebody got paid to "write."

                    In one respect it could be flattering, but dude give credit. Prefacing any such instance witht the following would do:

                    "As the brilliant baseball historian, philosopher, sociologist and political analyst digglahhh once wrote on the grandfather of all baseball sites, Baseball-Fever..."

                    Thanks for the heads up ESPN fan- now quick somebody more assertive than I, do something about this.
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by digglahhh
                      In one respect it could be flattering, but dude give credit. Prefacing any such instance witht the following would do:

                      "As the brilliant baseball historian, philosopher, sociologist and political analyst digglahhh..."
                      I think you meant to add "humble" too
                      Mythical SF Chronicle scouting report: "That Jeff runs like a deer. Unfortunately, he also hits AND throws like one." I am Venus DeMilo - NO ARM! I can play like a big leaguer, I can field like Luzinski, run like Lombardi. The secret to managing is keeping the ones who hate you away from the undecided ones. I am a triumph of quantity over quality. I'm almost useful, every village needs an idiot.
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                      • #12
                        The only example above that does not look like out and plagarising is the Manny Ramirez vs Dick Allen which both look like they copied win-share lists from another place (which strictly speaking in itself is plagarism since the source isn't listed).

                        Maybe some of the examples above, especially from the second group are from the same person using differents sigs at different sites.

                        I think anyone caught doing this should be suspended from the forum.

                        This gives a good idea why an internet site is probably not the best place to publish any serious research that you have done.
                        Last edited by wamby; 03-07-2006, 12:27 PM.

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                        • #13
                          Kidnaping

                          Originally posted by ESPNFan
                          Hello Gentleman.
                          I have been frequenting the ESPN boards for a while and a recent thread was posted regarding plagurisum. There have been quite a few posts from users here showing up almost verbatum with no credit given by a user named Cyril Oreily. .......
                          Unfortunately it has been also done here by poster Dontworry.....
                          I just thought people here would want to know.
                          Many thanks, ESPNFan; and yes we like to know when posers/posters are thieving. Plagiarism comes from the Latin plagiarius kidnaper, from plagium, kidnaping, from plaga, net. ~from: The American Heritage Dictionary Houghton Mifflin, Boston 1976 edition :atthepc

                          Welcome aboard, ESPNFan, and please make yourself welcome to the Fever. I haven't participated in many boards since I discovered this site many moons ago, and shudder to think that people I thought had real ideas were merely lifting others' words and purporting to use them as their own. That is lower than squid poop at the bottom of the Marianas Trench, in my book. I have a personal loathing for this behavior because of an incident during my college days. My Constitutional Law prof took my final thesis and published it nearly word for word in a well-read journal with his name as author, and gave me no credit whatsoever. When I confronted him the following semester he scoffed "Well, this will teach you to have your work copyrighted before submission, won't it?" I made sure there were no witnesses in sight and gave him a patented haymaker below the belt. I suppose we both learned a lesson that day.
                          Last edited by trosmok; 03-07-2006, 12:11 PM.
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                          • #14
                            Tros,

                            You rule!

                            In college I was accused of plaigiarism once, by a professor who had a very frail ego and could not accept the fact he had students who wrote better than he did. I told him "I confess, portions of this paper were taken from another work...a paper I wrote in high school."
                            Last edited by digglahhh; 03-07-2006, 12:33 PM.
                            THE REVOLUTION WILL NOT COME WITH A SCORECARD

                            In the avy: AZ - Doe or Die

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                            • #15
                              [QUOTE=trosmok
                              I have a personal loathing for this behavior because of an incident during my college days. My Constitutional Law prof took my final thesis and published it nearly word for word in a well-read journal with his name as author, and gave me no credit whatsoever. When I confronted him the following semester he scoffed "Well, this will teach you to have your work copyrighted before submission, won't it?" I made sure there were no witnesses in sight and gave him a patented haymaker below the belt. I suppose we both learned a lesson that day.[/QUOTE]

                              I know this term is thrown around a lot on this forum but I feel the need to use it here. That professor is a scumbag.

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