Updated Baseball Fever Policy

Baseball Fever Policy

I. Purpose of this announcement:

This announcement describes the policies pertaining to the operation of Baseball Fever.

Baseball Fever is a moderated baseball message board which encourages and facilitates research and information exchange among fans of our national pastime. The intent of the Baseball Fever Policy is to ensure that Baseball Fever remains an extremely high quality, extremely low "noise" environment.

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webmaster - Baseball Fever Owner
The Commissioner - Baseball Fever Administrator
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And a group of forum specific super moderators. The role of the moderator is to keep Baseball Fever smoothly and to screen posts for compliance with our policy. The moderators are ALL volunteer positions, so please be patient and understanding of any delays you might experience in correspondence.

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Any suggestions on this policy may be made directly to the webmaster.

III. Acknowledgments:

This document was based on a similar policy used by SABR.

IV. Requirements for participation on Baseball Fever:

Participation on Baseball Fever is available to all baseball fans with a valid email address, as verified by the forum's automated system, which then in turn creates a single validated account. Multiple accounts by a single user are prohibited.

By registering, you agree to adhere to the policies outlined in this document and to conduct yourself accordingly. Abuse of the forum, by repeated failure to abide by these policies, will result in your access being blocked to the forum entirely.

V. Baseball Fever Netiquette:

Participants at Baseball Fever are required to adhere to these principles, which are outlined in this section.
a. All posts to Baseball Fever should be written in clear, concise English, with proper grammar and accurate spelling. The use of abbreviations should be kept to a minimum; when abbreviation is necessary, they should be either well-known (such as etc.), or explained on their first use in your post.

b. Conciseness is a key attribute of a good post.

c. Quote only the portion of a post to which you are responding.

d. Standard capitalization and punctuation make a large difference in the readability of a post. TYPING IN ALL CAPITALS is considered to be "shouting"; it is a good practice to limit use of all capitals to words which you wish to emphasize.

e. It is our policy NOT to transmit any defamatory or illegal materials.

f. Personal attacks of any type against Baseball Fever readers will not be tolerated. In these instances the post will be copied by a moderator and/or administrator, deleted from the site, then sent to the member who made the personal attack via a Private Message (PM) along with a single warning. Members who choose to not listen and continue personal attacks will be banned from the site.

g. It is important to remember that many contextual clues available in face-to-face discussion, such as tone of voice and facial expression, are lost in the electronic forum. As a poster, try to be alert for phrasing that might be misinterpreted by your audience to be offensive; as a reader, remember to give the benefit of the doubt and not to take umbrage too easily. There are many instances in which a particular choice of words or phrasing can come across as being a personal attack where none was intended.

h. The netiquette described above (a-g) often uses the term "posts", but applies equally to Private Messages.

VI. Baseball Fever User Signature Policy

A signature is a piece of text that some members may care to have inserted at the end of ALL of their posts, a little like the closing of a letter. You can set and / or change your signature by editing your profile in the UserCP. Since it is visible on ALL your posts, the following policy must be adhered to:

Signature Composition
Font size limit: No larger than size 2 (This policy is a size 2)
Style: Bold and italics are permissible
Character limit: No more than 500 total characters
Lines: No more than 4 lines
Colors: Most colors are permissible, but those which are hard to discern against the gray background (yellow, white, pale gray) should be avoided
Images/Graphics: Allowed, but nothing larger than 20k and Content rules must be followed

Signature Content
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A Link to your Baseball Fever Blog does not require written consent and is recommended
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Please adhere to these rules when you create your signature. Failure to do so will result in a request to comply by a moderator. If you do not comply within a reasonable amount of time, the signature will be removed and / or edited by an Administrator. Baseball Fever reserves the right to edit and / or remove any or all of your signature line at any time without contacting the account holder.

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Most concisely, the test for whether a post is appropriate for Baseball Fever is: "Does this message discuss our national pastime in an interesting manner?" This post can be direct or indirect: posing a question, asking for assistance, providing raw data or citations, or discussing and constructively critiquing existing posts. In general, a broad interpretation of "baseball related" is used.

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It is considered appropriate to post a URL to a page which specifically and directly answers a question posted on the list (for example, it would be permissible to post a link to a page containing home-road splits, even on a site which has advertising or other commercial content; however, it would not be appropriate to post the URL of the main page of the site). The site reserves the right to limit the frequency of such announcements by any individual or group.

In keeping with our test for a proper topic, posting to Baseball Fever should be treated as if you truly do care. This includes posting information that is, to the best of your knowledge, complete and accurate at the time you post. Any errors or ambiguities you catch later should be acknowledged and corrected in the thread, since Baseball Fever is sometimes considered to be a valuable reference for research information.

VIII. Role of the moderator:

When a post is submitted to Baseball Fever, it is forwarded by the server automatically and seen immediately. The moderator may:
a. Leave the thread exactly like it was submitted. This is the case 95% of the time.

b. Immediately delete the thread as inappropriate for Baseball Fever. Examples include advertising, personal attacks, or spam. This is the case 1% of the time.

c. Move the thread. If a member makes a post about the Marlins in the Yankees forum it will be moved to the appropriate forum. This is the case 3% of the time.

d. Edit the message due to an inappropriate item. This is the case 1% of the time. There have been new users who will make a wonderful post, then add to their signature line (where your name / handle appears) a tagline that is a pure advertisement. This tagline will be removed, a note will be left in the message so he/she is aware of the edit, and personal contact will be made to the poster telling them what has been edited and what actions need to be taken to prevent further edits.

The moderators perform no checks on posts to verify factual or logical accuracy. While he/she may point out gross errors in factual data in replies to the thread, the moderator does not act as an "accuracy" editor. Also moderation is not a vehicle for censorship of individuals and/or opinions, and the moderator's decisions should not be taken personally.

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Help Needed on Early Stars/Pioneers

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  • Help Needed on Early Stars/Pioneers

    Gentlemen, I must beg your indulgence as I am in need of your expertise.

    I am working on a massive project (working through construction of a personal Hall of Fame chronologically).

    Long story short, the eligibility guidelines are mostly determined by Year of Birth and I am starting in 1893 (first year of new pitching rubber distance and 25th anniversary of organized professional play). For player candidates they must be born in 1852 or earlier. For non-player candidates they must be born in 1827 or earlier.

    My difficulty is with the National Association stars who might not show up (or stand out) in a search of Baseball Reference. While my list of candidates doesn't have to be exhaustive, I do want to give myself a goodly number of candidates to research and review.

    What I ask of you is to review the two lists below and let me know anyone not already on the list who you believe deserves my attention or was prominent enough as should make such a list of potential "hall of fame" candidates. I just want to ensure I haven't overlooked anyone and/or missed out on an opportunity to study some interesting candidates. It's very important for me, especially, to get the initial pool of eligibles right as all subsequent elections proceed forward in time from the first and these are the players I will probably spend the most time researching during this project.

    Here are the lists:
    Players - born 1852 or earlier
    Doug Allison
    Ross Barnes
    George Bradley
    Asa Brainard
    Jack Burdock
    John Clapp
    Jim Creighton
    Candy Cummings
    Jim Devlin
    Bob Ferguson
    Davy Force
    Charlie Gould
    George Hall
    Charley Jones
    Joe Leggett
    Bobby Mathews
    Dick McBride
    Mike McGeary
    Levi Meyerle
    Cal McVey
    Candy Nelson
    Dickey Pearce
    John Peters
    Lip Pike
    Orator Shafer
    Al Spalding
    Joe Start
    Ezra Sutton
    Deacon White
    George Wright
    Tom York
    George Zettlein

    Non-Players - born in 1827 or earlier
    Doc Adams
    William Cammeyer
    Alexander Cartwright
    Henry Chadwick
    Duncan Curry
    Louis Wadsworth
    William Wheaton

    Any suggestions will be given serious consideration and further research.

    What have you, friends?
    "It is a simple matter to erect a Hall of Fame, but difficult to select the tenants." -- Ken Smith
    "I am led to suspect that some of the electorate is very dumb." -- Henry P. Edwards
    "You have a Hall of Fame to put people in, not keep people out." -- Brian Kenny
    "There's no such thing as a perfect ballot." -- Jay Jaffe

  • #2
    Harry Wright has to fit in somewhere.


    • #3
      Originally posted by kbs84r View Post
      Harry Wright has to fit in somewhere.
      Wright was born in 1835 and is not yet eligible for me to look at as a manager. Are Wright's credentials as a player only really notable enough for a list of players like this? Prior to the outright professionalism of post-1868, my understanding is that Wright was primarily a cricket player who only engaged in organized baseball in Cincinnati for a few years after the Civil War. Perhaps I'm wrong on that count? He certainly wasn't one of the best players on either of his professional Red Stockings teams.
      "It is a simple matter to erect a Hall of Fame, but difficult to select the tenants." -- Ken Smith
      "I am led to suspect that some of the electorate is very dumb." -- Henry P. Edwards
      "You have a Hall of Fame to put people in, not keep people out." -- Brian Kenny
      "There's no such thing as a perfect ballot." -- Jay Jaffe


      • #4
        Does this mean you will have subsequent consideration for Wright based upon a his post 1827 birth date?


        • #5
          Yes, absolutely. Let me be clear about the parameters: players are going to be evaluated solely for their playing while non-players will not have their playing career considered. The same individual can be chosen in both elections so, for example, Albert Spalding could be selected as a pitcher and later selected as an executive.

          My intention is to not exclude any reasonable candidate, particularly up front. Again, were you making a case that Harry Wright, the Player, was one of the better players in the league for a period of time?
          "It is a simple matter to erect a Hall of Fame, but difficult to select the tenants." -- Ken Smith
          "I am led to suspect that some of the electorate is very dumb." -- Henry P. Edwards
          "You have a Hall of Fame to put people in, not keep people out." -- Brian Kenny
          "There's no such thing as a perfect ballot." -- Jay Jaffe


          • #6
            I understand better now. No, I don't think Harry Wright particularly distinguished himself as a player.


            • #7
              From the player list I would put in these:

              Ross Barnes
              Jim Creighton
              Charley Jones
              Cal McVey
              Al Spalding
              Joe Start
              Ezra Sutton
              Deacon White
              George Wright

              I'd put Bob Ferguson in as a contributor.

              19th Century League Champion
              1900s League Champion
              1910s League Champion

              1930s League Division Winner
              1950s League Champion
              1960 Strat-O-Matic League Regular Season Winner
              1960s League Division Winner
              1970s League Champion
              1971 Strat-O-Matic League Runner Up
              1980s League Champion
              All Time Greats League Champion


              • #8
                On September 2, 1867, Harry Wright and John C. Howe of Cincinnati each hit 7 home runs in a game against the Holt Club of Newport, Kentucky.