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  • 19th Century NL Franchise Shifts

    The following lists the vast number of franchise shifts that took place in the National League during its first 25 years before it settled itself with the coming of the American League:

    ------IN--------------------------------------------OUT
    1876
    Chicago
    St. Louis
    Harford
    Boston
    Louisville
    New York
    Philadelphia
    Cincinnati
    1877-------------------------------------------------New York
    ------------------------------------------------------Philadelphia
    1878
    Providence
    Milwaukee
    Indianapolis
    ------------------------------------------------------Harford
    ------------------------------------------------------St. Louis
    ------------------------------------------------------Louisville
    1879
    Buffalo
    Milwaukee
    Syracuse
    Troy
    Cleveland
    ------------------------------------------------------Indianapolis
    1880
    Worcester
    ------------------------------------------------------Syracuse
    1881
    Detroit
    ------------------------------------------------------Cincinnati
    1883
    New York
    Philadelphia
    ------------------------------------------------------Worcester
    ------------------------------------------------------Troy
    1885
    St. Louis
    ------------------------------------------------------Cleveland
    1886
    Kansas City
    Washington
    ------------------------------------------------------Providence
    ------------------------------------------------------Buffalo
    1887
    Pittsburgh
    Indianapolis
    ------------------------------------------------------St. Louis
    ------------------------------------------------------Kansas City
    1889
    Cleveland
    ------------------------------------------------------Detroit
    1890
    Brooklyn
    Cincinnati
    ------------------------------------------------------Indianapolis
    ------------------------------------------------------Washington
    1892
    Baltimore
    St. Louis
    Washington
    Louisville

    1900------------------------------------------------Baltimore
    ------------------------------------------------------Louisville
    ------------------------------------------------------Washington
    ------------------------------------------------------Cleveland.

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    In 1877, Cincinnati's games were not officially counted by the NL because they failed to pay their dues, forfeiting their membership. The club in fact reorganized twice during the season. When the NL met on December 5, 1877, the Reds were readmitted, having met all the League's demands under a contract they had with them. Cincy's games are now counted by the current crop of revisionists without regard to history as it happened. Thus, all the won/lost totals, as well as batting averages and other stats for 1877 that you see and use in recent reference books are erroneous. Cincinnati was not a member in 1877, but reentered in 1878.

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    • #3
      did the league teams still play cincinnati? was the schedule kept? were the games viewed as viable contests by their opponents despite whatever administrative threats that were being bantered about?

      those kind of disputes were common throughout all of baseball in the 19th century - especially in the minor and independent leagues - but with other major league teams as well - some major league teams didn't even join the league until august

      likewise in the negro leagues and in the minors in the 20th century, especially during the depression
      Last edited by Brian McKenna; 04-03-2006, 05:55 AM.

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      • #4
        Yes to your questions. However, to include them now as official is revisionism pure and simple. It is not history as it was known.

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        • #5
          NL Franchise Shifts

          I really enjoyed getting your listing of NL franchise shifts since the league first formed. I have been looking for something like this for quite some time. Thanks

          paa0408

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          • #6
            Subtraction franchises

            I appreciated the list too. Egads, baseball history can be confusing, especially when the American League and now-defunct leagues are taken into account. How many "Baltimore Orioles" franchises have there been through the years? How many "St. Louis Browns," "Milwaukee Brewers," and "Chicago White Stockings/Sox"?

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            • #7
              How many "Baltimore Orioles" franchises have there been through the years? How many "St. Louis Browns," "Milwaukee Brewers," and "Chicago White Stockings/Sox"?
              Here is a website that should help answer that:

              http://www.baseball1.com/bb-data/bbd-tms.html

              For instance according to this site there were:

              4 Baltimore Oriole franchsies

              3 St Louis Brown franchsies (but one of those was knicknamed the Cards and Redbirds and another was also called the Reds)

              5 Milwaukee Brewer franchises - including one of those that became one of the St Louis Brown franchises (which is ironic since the first baseball team Bill Veeck Jr owned was a minor league Milwaukee Brewer franchise)

              1 Chicago White Sox franchise but one of the knicknames of the Cubs was the WhiteStockings

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Hoyfan
                I appreciated the list too. Egads, baseball history can be confusing, especially when the American League and now-defunct leagues are taken into account. How many "Baltimore Orioles" franchises have there been through the years? How many "St. Louis Browns," "Milwaukee Brewers," and "Chicago White Stockings/Sox"?
                O's=3
                Browns=2
                Brewers=3
                White Stockins/Sox=2
                In the 1920's, Harry Heilmann led the AL with a .364 average. In addition, he averaged 220 hits, 45 doubles, 12 triples, 16 homers, 110 runs, and 130 RBI.

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