A bit of a strange request here. Does anyone know what the scouting report was for Mickey Welch? Perhaps scouting report is the wrong word. Not even sure if they had such a thing in the 1880's. Basically I'm looking to find out what kind of pitches he threw (fastball, curve, changeup, etc) and what his best pitch was (did he have a blazing fastball?, wicked curve?, etc) Anyone know where I can find this information at? I'm also in need of it for other 300 game winners pre 1970
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Originally posted by bkmckenna1) variety of curves
2) change
3) fastball
per his words - i had a pretty good fastball but i depended mostly on change of pace and an assortment of curve balls
The major leagues' third 300-game winner, 5'8" Mickey Welch learned the fundamentals of baseball on the post-Civil War Brooklyn sandlots. Though he did not throw with great velocity, he had an effective curveball, a change of pace, and a version of the screwball. During his 13 major league seasons, he posted 20 or more wins nine times - seven in succession.
Here's some more sources for you also, Sockeye.
Hope this helps.
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Excellent! Would you happen to know about Charley Radbourn, Tim Keefe, John Clarkson, Pud Galvin & Kid Nichols?My dream ballpark dimensions
LF: 400 Feet...Height 37 Feet...LCF: 455 Feet...CF: 542 Feet...Height 35 Feet
RCF: 471 Feet...RF: 400 Feet...Height 60 Feet
Location....San Diego
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Originally posted by SockeyeExcellent! Would you happen to know about Charley Radbourn, Tim Keefe, John Clarkson, Pud Galvin & Kid Nichols?
Check baseballlibrary.com for cross references, citations, and original sources. You can then access them through your local library
You could go for a compendium book like Leecemark suggested earlier.
Most of all, I'd recommend joining SABR. They give you access to a universe of historical information...
The SABR Encyclopedia
The Baseball Index
The SABR Lending Library
The SABR-L Archives
ProQuest Historical Newspapers
Heritage Quest Genealogical Resources
Archives USA
Amatuer Athletic Association of LA Digitized Sports Periodicals
SABR Research Committees
SABR Chapter Resources
Triple Plays Database
Basically everything under the sun if you're just looking to learn what a guy threw or you want to start writing a biography.
There's a 19th century egroup at Yahoo for SABR members run by Paul Wendt, who chairs the SABR 19th century baseball committe. There's also a section at SABR Hot Stove forums dedicated specifically to addressing research questions such as yours.
Unfortunately I'm not nearly as informed as some of our members here, and many of the members over at SABR. Regardless, I hope this points you in the right direction!
-Chris
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Originally posted by SockeyeExcellent! Would you happen to know about Charley Radbourn, Tim Keefe, John Clarkson, Pud Galvin & Kid Nichols?
They give a good rough overview of the man."Here's a crazy thought I've always had: if they cut three fingers off each hand, I'd really be a great hitter because then I could level off better." Paul Waner (lifetime .333 hitter, 3,152 lifetime hits.
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Originally posted by bkmckennathe neyer/james guide to pitchers and baseball's first stars don't make a reference to a screwball for welch
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Originally posted by csh19792001That's why I'm not the biggest fan of using internet sources and cutting/pasting without doing the background research and forethought, but I didn't have any of my books in front of me, and wouldn't have the time to reprint entire passages/bios from books regardless.Last edited by Brian McKenna; 03-28-2006, 04:15 PM.
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Originally posted by bkmckennai would be interested in what a "version of the screwball" actually means - could be part of "assortment of curves"
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