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    Should women be able to play competetive baseball (high school, college, ect.)?
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  • #2
    there will be an awakening to female players - and it must to come from the court system and through the purse strings

    i personally feel that male college sports is headed for trouble - whether it is 5-10-15-20 years i don't know - there is a great deal of corruption and favoritism (discrimination) - the hammer will eventually fall - in some sports college ball is a de facto minor leagues make billions of dollars - but in the name of amateur play there are a lot of shady practices - one day it will all be sorted out - through the courts and through the $$$ i guess

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    • #3
      What happens to the gals who can't make the grade with the guys. Suppose a couple of girls make the men's squad. The girls' team would be less competitive and the men's team would be about the same, assuming that the two gals would not play very much. You're left with a division of men/women and a division of all women. That'll lead to guys joining the all women's division via the courts again. That will open the door to non-starting guys joining the girls across the board, taking their starting positions: swimming, basketball, etc.

      Sometimes what seems to be fair turns out to be unfair.

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      • #4
        That's exactly what we want, the courts telling how sports ought to be handled. I refer you to the "Futurama" episode when they crash land on Amazonia.
        Buck O'Neil: The Monarch of Baseball

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        • #5
          sorry - don't buy any segregationist philosphy - sounds like an age old argument claiming to have the best interest of those excluded at heart - doesn't take into account a gradual shift in the nature of things with the gaps being filled in along the way

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          • #6
            Girls have tried out for male teams, and a few have actually made it over the years. But very few, and either the female athletes were exceptional or the male teams were simply "undermanned."

            However, when a girl is allowed to play on a male HS baseball team, shouldn't males likewise be allowed to play for the HS girls softball team? Volleball team? What's fair is fair.

            Of course, if that happened, sports like softball and volleyball, traditionally female sports at the HS level, would all of a sudden become dominated by male athletes, defeating the entire reason that Title IX was designed.

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            • #7
              Of Course They Should...

              A quick review of my calendar indicates that is 2006. Women can vote, drive cars, join the Army, all kinds of stuff. I don't think baseball should be changed in anyway to accomodate women baseball players, but if they can play the same game by the same rules, I'm all for it. There is a girl that plays basketball on the boys varsity team at Saxony Lutheran in Cape Girardeau, Missouri. SL is a small parochial school that doesn't have a girls team, so she plays with the boys and has excelled. She is going to Vandy on a basketball scholarship.

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              • #8
                If there isn't a girls team then they should be able to play with the boys, if she can make the grade. If there is a girls team then she should play with the girls. That isn't segregationist philosphy, that's common sense. However, I would make an exception, for the sake of harmony, but only if a rule was put into place that the guys couldn't join the girls team. Otherwise it becomes a mockery.

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                • #9
                  if a girl can bring it than i say let her play - i'm not going to be the one to tell them they can't do something - there are too many others out there shouting that from the rafters

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by bkmckenna
                    if a girl can bring it than i say let her play - i'm not going to be the one to tell them they can't do something - there are too many others out there shouting that from the rafters
                    She can bring it with the girls team, can't she?

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                    • #11
                      Get yer cake and eat it too

                      OK,,,how about a really fast human runner racing greyhounds. Hey, if he's fast enough, we shouldn't segregate them.

                      Personally, if a woman is good enough to play with the men, fine, go for it. (But don't crash her at home plate, brush her back from the plate, slap a head tag on her, or put Atomic Balm in her, er, "jockstrap") We must retain politcal correctness, lest we be branded mysoginists <sp?>

                      Is it fair for a woman to take a potential slot for a man, on a male baseball team, if he's not allowed to take a slot from a female player on that school's softball team?

                      How about this: What if a high school male is really skilled at fastpitch softball, yet his high school has no team that is exclusively male, only a baseball team. Is he allowed to take a spot from a female? Would the other teams in the league protest? What if he's really good, but maybe not as good as some of the other females on the team, yet better than some. You have to believe that the other teams (with all females) are going to protest.

                      So, they will never allow a male to play on a female team. YET, we are supposed to believe that it's fine for a female to play on a male team. Acutally, we aren't really even supposed to classify it as a "male" team. Those classifications are only correct, if one is classifying a female team.

                      Hmmm,,,maybe men and women are DIFFERENT. Whoa, what a concept.

                      I guess my question is, Why do the women want to play with men? Is there no satisfaction in being superlative amongst your peers and sex? What does this say about certain women's view of the competitiveness of their own sex? Why is it correct for women to "move up", yet deemed tacky for men to want to excel against women?
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                      “Even today, if the Royals win six games all year, if they're going to go 6-156, I hope they beat the Yankees six times.”

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Gashouse6
                        Should women be able to play competetive baseball (high school, college, ect.)?
                        Yeah. I think that girls should be able to play guys baseball. They have guys softball teams but no girls baseball teams. I myself play on a guys hardball team and I do fine. If you're not good enough to make it, well then thats your problem. But if you're just as good as the rest of the team, you shouldn't not make the team just because youre a girl. It's the same with the major leagues.. a girl has never played. I think that girls (like myself) should push the limits and try to break tradition with the original guys only baseball teams.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Brittney
                          Yeah. I think that girls should be able to play guys baseball. They have guys softball teams but no girls baseball teams. I myself play on a guys hardball team and I do fine. If you're not good enough to make it, well then thats your problem. But if you're just as good as the rest of the team, you shouldn't not make the team just because youre a girl. It's the same with the major leagues.. a girl has never played. I think that girls (like myself) should push the limits and try to break tradition with the original guys only baseball teams.
                          I agree with you, if Jackie Robinson can break the racial barrier, then women should break the sex barrier, just add in adjustments.
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                          • #14
                            There has been a woman drafted by a major league team

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                            • #15
                              In the 43rd round of the 1993 amateur free agent draft 18-year-old Carey Schueler became the first woman selected by a major league team. On a lark, her father, White Sox general manager Ron Schueler picked her. She was not signed.

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