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  • Unbelievable Little League Story.

    http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/200...814/index.html

    I'd love to hear what the take on this is here.
    Get out the Vote!!!

  • #2
    That's disgusting. Especially since he knew exactly what happened to him.
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    • #3
      Sounds like the same coach who was paying players to bean weaker players on his own team... That's just not right!
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      • #4
        Not cool at all and not very sporting. Kind of like shooting fish in a barrell and calling it sport. I wouldn't have walked him to face the cancer patient. Imagine the cancer patient was a pitcher and they kept bunting on him. Some will do anything to win even if it's cruel and unkind. Great lesson in humanity to teach these kids.

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        • #5
          The line "I'd have done the same thing. It's just good baseball strategy" is very telling.

          Does anyone else find it wrong that when we're talking about 9 and 10 year olds, that "baseball strategy" comes into play at all?

          If you're a coach of little kids, and you're playing to win, you should go buy a copy of MLB 2006 for Playstation, and leave little kids alone. It's not about you and your manager fantasy, it's about the kids having fun.

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          • #6
            Even if the kid didn't have cancer, I would have ordered my pitcher to pitch to the best batter. It is a GAME for crying out loud. Everyone should have a chance to bat. They were in the lead, so probably they would have won it anyway.

            I can only think of one word to describe this coach: PATHETIC

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            • #7
              If the cancer kid was so weak that he could have severely injured himself why is he even playing in the PONY League? The parents can't have it both ways. They want their son to be treat normal but also be be treated "special" when it counts. Tha'ts hyocrisy! Also if baseball is supposed to be fun and not about winning then why is there a championship game? Does this league keep stadings and stats? Isn't that against the spirit of "fun"? People are so PC that they don't understand that kids love to compete. I know I did at that age. I wanted to win ever game and crush my opponent everytime. I wanted to take the pitcher deep every time. I played baseball because it was fun and I wanted to win. One year I played on a Little League team that went 2-21-1. Do you think that was much "fun" for our team?
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              • #8
                Coach=big *******! even if the poor kid was batting .400 i would have pitched to the slugger.
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                • #9
                  That just smells like a bad move to walk the batter to get to the next batter. At least go after the batter, its not about Barry Bonds and the World Series.

                  However, instead of us "lucky/normal" people answering, the people who should be giving the insight are those who are somewhat disabled, how would they want to be treated? Just like any other player? Well, then walk the guy in front and pitch to me, that's why I'm playing right?

                  Yes, you want to win, but not at the cost of embarrasing someone. Especially not blatantly with an intentional walk in a Pony League game. Championship game, whatever, its still 9 and 10 year olds. You win by going at their best player, not picking on the weakest link.

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                  • #10
                    Honus, I played on a team that went 0-17-1, struck out with the winning run on third in the game we tied. I still have a lot of great memories about that team and can barely remember some of the details about other teams I played on that did win.

                    I'm in agreement here with Honus. If this kid is so sick he can barely make it through the day, he probably shouldn't be playing in a league that is competitve like this one. I'm not a heartless person, and can take a lot of pity on this kid and his family. And at the end of the story, it sounds like this will only make him a bit tougher and more resolute.

                    I'm curious about something here: Did the Red Sox only have nine players? We only read about one at bat here. Did the sick kid bat before this? Was he subbed in, did he start? We don't know the answer to that just reading this story. If he was subbed in, then part of me thinks his coach might also be rethinking his 'strategy' to not start the sick kid, then pull him for another and not put the sick kid, or his team, in this position to begin with.
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Honus Wagner Rules
                      If the cancer kid was so weak that he could have severely injured himself why is he even playing in the PONY League? The parents can't have it both ways. They want their son to be treat normal but also be be treated "special" when it counts. Tha'ts hyocrisy! Also if baseball is supposed to be fun and not about winning then why is there a championship game? Does this league keep stadings and stats? Isn't that against the spirit of "fun"? People are so PC that they don't understand that kids love to compete. I know I did at that age. I wanted to win ever game and crush my opponent everytime. I wanted to take the pitcher deep every time. I played baseball because it was fun and I wanted to win. One year I played on a Little League team that went 2-21-1. Do you think that was much "fun" for our team?
                      I agree 100%.
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                      • #12
                        Just my opinion but I was never in a "competative" league where there was a cap on runs scored during an inning. Also there probably isnt much thought given to "baseball stratagey" in the league if batting a sickly child is your idea of giving protection to your teams best hitter. And I don't know about any of you guys experienced it but I can't remember a Intentional walk given to anyone until I hit Babe Ruth League.
                        Get out the Vote!!!

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                        • #13
                          There's a lot of hypocrisy (like HWR said) coming from the parents in that story. They want their kid to be treated normal, and yet are upset when the coach makes a "normal" play (isn't that what happens in real baseball games? Yes!). They basically want him to be treated normal but then at the end want them to treat him special. Sports should be about competition, regardless of age.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by 538280
                            There's a lot of hypocrisy (like HWR said) coming from the parents in that story. They want their kid to be treated normal, and yet are upset when the coach makes a "normal" play (isn't that what happens in real baseball games? Yes!). They basically want him to be treated normal but then at the end want them to treat him special. Sports should be about competition, regardless of age.
                            Trying to treat a disabled child normaly is one thing. Don't you think taking advantage of obvious disability to secure victory is something else entirely?
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                            • #15
                              Quote from the article:

                              Farr thinks the Sox coach is a hypocrite. He points out that all coaches put their worst fielder in rightfield and try to steal on the weakest catchers. "Isn't that strategy?" he asks. "Isn't that trying to win? Do we let the kid feel like he's a winner by having the whole league play easy on him?"
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