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Is little league as popular as it used to be??

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  • #16
    Here in Texas, football is King and I do mean king!!! If a kid does not like getting the crap knocked out of him, the old-timers think your limp-wristed. However, my son is a seasonal athlete and baseball is as fun to him at 10 yrs of age as football and track. He is a pitcher, quarterback-corner back and runs the 100m, 200m and 4X100m. He also likes basketball, but can't dribble or shoot. If its his idea, and his behavior and grades are good, we (my wife and I indulge him). He plays little leauge and tournament ball and has not had to choose any of the sports over the other. However, like most Texas kids, all sports seasons are simply seasons around football seasons

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    • #17
      Little League has a lot of competition now. It is not as popular as it used to be. If the question was "Is youth rec ball as popular as ever?" I would say yes.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by Mikie View Post
        Interesting take, I've never heard that. Two reasons I've heard why parents prefer their kids to play soccer is that it's aerobic, much more exercise than baseball, and that more kids get to play more since both teams are always on the field.
        My brother told me that my 7 year old nephew loves soccer and hates baseball because there is too much standing around in baseball.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by EdTarbusz View Post
          My brother told me that my 7 year old nephew loves soccer and hates baseball because there is too much standing around in baseball.
          From having been through the journey with two kids this excuse is the most common one used by kids who can't hit. There's a lot of sitting around in baseball if a kid can't get on base.

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          • #20
            Lacrosse is the other spring sport where I live. Right around June 1st every year some of the best little leaguers suddenly can't hit, can't pitch, and can't even show up for games (including LLWS All Stars). Why, you ask? Their lacrosse travel league starts around the 1st of June and the practices and games wear out the kids trying to play both sports. It took me a few years of coaching before I understood this.

            All the lacrosse coaches and parents have to say to new recruits is...SCHOLARSHIPS!! I have recent NCAA Lacrosse Champions for Div 1, Div 2, and Div 3 within an hours drive from me. Can't say the same thing for baseball.
            "He's tougher than a railroad sandwich."
            "You'se Got The Eye Of An Eagle."

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            • #21
              The odds of a preteen becoming a college scholarship athlete is very small, even in lacrosse. The numbers aren't any better than baseball. D1 Baseball rosters 35. The NCAA allows 11.7 scholarships. I don't know what the NCAA limits on D1 lacrosse rosters are, but Hopkins has 50 players and Virginia has 44. The NCAA allows D1 Lacrosse 12.69 scholarships. D2 provides less in each sport. D3 does not provide athletic scholarships. Anyone thinking scholarship when their kids are preteens are nuts. My son may get a 25% ride for baseball. It's not enough to cloud our thinking on selecting the best possible academic situation combined with a competitive baseball program. Colleges provide academic exceptions in the admissions process for athletes even at the best academic institutions. Harvard did not win an NCAA hockey championship with a bunch of skating valedictorians. Use the sport for the best possible collegiate situation.

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              • #22
                Up here lacrosse helps many athletes get accepted into reach schools. Our high schools announce which students are playing college sports and the list is dominated by boys and girls playing college lacrosse. We finally had one girl earn a softball scholarship at a top Liberal Arts College and she was a starter as a freshman. I coached her brother who unfortunately didn't get the athletic genes in the family.

                What many of our parents don't realize is most of these athletes will be attending Div 3 schools and Community Colleges. There are a few exceptions and they get the lacrosse scholarships to Syracuse or accepted at an Ivy League school where they will play lacrosse.
                "He's tougher than a railroad sandwich."
                "You'se Got The Eye Of An Eagle."

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                • #23
                  In every sport there are some very competitive D3 programs who on any given day can hang with a D2 or middle of the road mid major D1. In the east there are some fantastic academic D3's. Hopkins recruits mostly baseball players who could play mid major D1. I wouldn't let my son rule out a competitive high end academic D3 to play for a middle of the road academic mid major.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by tg643 View Post
                    From having been through the journey with two kids this excuse is the most common one used by kids who can't hit. There's a lot of sitting around in baseball if a kid can't get on base.
                    My nephew can hit alright for his age. His biggest complaint about standung around is when he's in the field.

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by EdTarbusz View Post
                      My nephew can hit alright for his age. His biggest complaint about standung around is when he's in the field.
                      And it’s a perfectly valid complaint! Sometime people are so much in a hurry to defend the game, they forget there’s much more to it than hitting the ball and running the bases!

                      From the time there’s 1st pitching by the players, the only people to blame for the boredom coming from standing in the field, is coaches! They seldom miss an opportunity to turn baseball into little more than a FPSB game by putting the most physically mature players they can find on the mound to blow away everyone they can.

                      What ends up happening is, nearly everyone in the field is watching the P & C play catch, and that gets boring to everyone other than the P&C, their parents, and the coach. It is entirely possible for coaches to give other players opportunities on the bump, but normally they give the rationalization that their job is to give the team the best chance to win, so its unlikely more than just a few players will get to pitch.

                      But even ML players say over and over again how they prefer to play behind pitchers who don’t waste a lot of time, and throw lots of strikes because it helps them stay focused. If a ML player making a few mil can be bored to the point of losing focus, you can bet your bippy some little kid in LL is going to experience the same thing, but in a much more pronounced way.
                      The pitcher who’s afraid to throw strikes, will soon be standing in the shower with the hitter who's afraid to swing.

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                      • #26
                        My feeling is that youth baseball leagues are declining because of the watering down of the rules and every kid getting a trophy for winning nothing.

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                        • #27
                          Introduce baseball in elementary school. Whenever I pass by an elementary in S. Florida I see kids playing every sport but baseball. I thought baseball was the national pasttime. Apparently not. MLB introduces baseball at the elementary level in other countries. I've never met a kid who doesn't like to hit. Use a sponge-like ball like my kid did at the YMCA.

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                          • #28
                            I know this is an older thread but I feel like answering this question. No, Little League is not as popular as it used to be. I know this because I played Little League until 2007, when I went to Babe Ruth and then High School. Almost all of us were able to play every inning, save one or two kids (ironically, never the coach's son(s)). If I were to go driving and count the number of Little League fields around, and then count the number of soccer/ football fields around, the number isn't even close. Mike Epstein puts it pretty well in my opinion "I've never known a kid who hits .180 to have fun". Little League keeps losing kids to soccer and other spring sports because of two reasons. 1. Baseball can /is prohibitively expensive. A new bat is 150 dollars. 2. Most players can't/ are never taught to hit properly, and as a result, lose interest.

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by pstein View Post
                              I know this is an older thread but I feel like answering this question. No, Little League is not as popular as it used to be. I know this because I played Little League until 2007, when I went to Babe Ruth and then High School. Almost all of us were able to play every inning, save one or two kids (ironically, never the coach's son(s)). If I were to go driving and count the number of Little League fields around, and then count the number of soccer/ football fields around, the number isn't even close. Mike Epstein puts it pretty well in my opinion "I've never known a kid who hits .180 to have fun". Little League keeps losing kids to soccer and other spring sports because of two reasons. 1. Baseball can /is prohibitively expensive. A new bat is 150 dollars. 2. Most players can't/ are never taught to hit properly, and as a result, lose interest.
                              Very true. Soccer is a lot of fun if you suck. You can be talentless and still have a nice day. Baseball is different. If you can hit it's the greatest thing. but if you can't it really sucks.


                              I'm from europe, how big is soccer there? I have heard it's a very minor sport and nobody exept some girls and latinos play it in the US
                              I now have my own non commercial blog about training for batspeed and power using my training experience in baseball and track and field.

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by dominik View Post
                                I'm from europe, how big is soccer there? I have heard it's a very minor sport and nobody except some girls and latinos play it in the US
                                Soccer is NOT a minor high school sport in the U.S.

                                HS sports participation nos. as of 2009--
                                boys:
                                football 1,100,100
                                track and field 558,000
                                basketball 545,000
                                baseball 473,000
                                soccer 383,000


                                girls:
                                track and field 455,000
                                basketball 445,000
                                volleyball 440,000
                                softball 369,000
                                soccer 344,000
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