Fenway

[skeletor]

I've heard from other 'experts' that Fenway park, ain't in the best
shape..suffering from all sorts of wear and tear..moisture damage
and more..And yeah, John Henry the Sox owner, is doing research
on whether or not it can be retro fitted...But I bet eventually,
down the line..it too..will suffer the same fate of Tiger stadium,
and a new RED SOX park will be built...I hope Fenway lives on
but progress at times, is a bitter pill to swallow..

[efin98]

Despite the rosey picture the Red Sox try to paint it is a losing battle. The Stadium won't last past 2015 or 2020. There is alot of water damage, alot of problems with wear and tear through out the park. It needed a new drainage system on the field and through, newer concourses, new bathrooms. It's being slowly upgraded to modern standards year by year but it lags far behind other stadiums. It can't handle heavy construction so each year only a few minor additions can be made to the stadium. I don't know how the team will ever manage to fit in the planned "upper deck" in the area in and around the .406 club(glassed in area above the grand stand), but that should enable the team to finally meet the 40,000 seat mark and put it on parr with the rest of the league.

Also the research into upgrades to Fenway Park preceeds the current ownership group, it was actually started back when the plans for a new ballpark were first announced.

Also if not for the lack of land in the surrounding cities of Everett, Revere, and Somerville(where the stadium would have gone, with the front being just within Boston). Also if Frank McCourt group had not ended up coming in second in the race to buy the Red Sox the team would be moving into a new facility sometime in the next two years.

It's only amount of time though until the Red Sox HAVE TO move to a new facility. Fenway park simply can't handle the year in and year out wear and tear of 40,000 fans for 81 games a year. There WILL be a new stadium at some point, where it will be is anyone's guess though.

[abolishthedh]

Hopefully, it won't take falling pieces of concrete to get things going, but it will be a sad day. At least the park saw a 2nd Series victory!

[rxpro]

lets face it...can any ballpark opened in 1912 survive forever???

some day...sadly...Fenway and Wrigley will HAVE to go!!!

[KingNothing13]

At least the park saw a 2nd Series victory!

umm.....technically it is the 4th....

1912, 1914 the Braves played their Series games in Fenway, (1915-1916 Sox played in Braves Field for the Series), 1918 and 2004.

[efin98]

Hopefully, it won't take falling pieces of concrete to get things going, but it will be a sad day. At least the park saw a 2nd Series victory!

Actually, that would have happened a few years ago if not for the rebuilding of the concourses. Some of the concrete had worn away enough to cause concern.

[POLO GROUNDS 1957]

fenway park

I've heard from other 'experts' that Fenway park, ain't in the best
shape..suffering from all sorts of wear and tear..moisture damage
and more..And yeah, John Henry the Sox owner, is doing research
on whether or not it can be retro fitted...But I bet eventually,
down the line..it too..will suffer the same fate of Tiger stadium,
and a new RED SOX park will be built...I hope Fenway lives on
but progress at times, is a bitter pill to swallow..

Are there any reports from engineers saying that there are problems with fenway park. i recall the city of detroit trying to say that tiger stadium was falling down so members of the tiger stadium fan club who are engineers checked the ballpark out and said that there was nothing wrong with tiger stadium.the city of detroit lied about tiger stadium. i have been to fenway park and it looked great to me. one stadium that did have problems was old comiskey park and that was because of the owners thru the years not maintaining comiskey park. but comiskey could have lasted with renovations. i loved going to old comiskey park and miss it. i have not seen a game at the new park and wont be going to it either. Donald

[efin98]

Are there any reports from engineers saying that there are problems with fenway park.

There are reports, but they are none of the public's business since the stadium is private property. There were engineers and architects examining the stadium each of the past three years before any construction started that included city engineers and private engineers hired by the team. However you don't need to be an engineer to know that there are problems with the stadium just by looking at it. Rust on all metal surfaces, concrete crumbling in the concourses and in the stands, rebar starting to show through supports- all that isn't supposed to be showing. I don't care how old a stadium is, none of that is supposed to be showing unless there is a problem with the stadium.

[westsidegrounds]

There are reports, but they are none of the public's business since the stadium is private property. <...>

Considering said private property hosted 2,320,422 members of the public last season, it might almost seem that the public has a right to know how safe said private property is.

Hope it doesn't make me a communist to think that!

[POLO GROUNDS 1957]

fenway park

Considering said private property hosted 2,320,422 members of the public last season, it might almost seem that the public has a right to know how safe said private property is.

Hope it doesn't make me a communist to think that!

Good point westsidegrounds i dont know how he can think that its no ones business about fenway. Donald

[efin98]

Considering said private property hosted 2,320,422 members of the public last season, it might almost seem that the public has a right to know how safe said private property is.

Hope it doesn't make me a communist to think that!

Actually, the public has a right to know via another means: building permits and public hearings. Both of which in the city of Boston and Commonwealth of Massachusetts are open to the public for review.

[efin98]

Good point westsidegrounds i dont know how he can think that its no ones business about fenway. Donald

You want to make this personal, fine.

It is no one's business what is being done to Fenway Park when it comes to plans for demolition and upgrades. It's private property, something here in New England take very seriously. Jerks like you who cry foul any time someone does something that they don't like or whines when something is changed that doesn't meet your expectations have no bearing on what goes on and never have. It's a courtesy to directly inform the public about changes, not a right.

[ElHalo]

Here's the thing, though...

The Roman Collusseum (that's one of the few words I know of with NO standard spelling... weird) was in heavy, heavy use for 500 years... the only problem it had in its first century was that the arena floor was no longer watertight, so they couldn't stage the naval battles in the arena that they had before.

If, 2000 years ago, they could build a stadium that could last for half a millenium... why can't we build stadiums today that will last a century?

[efin98]

Here's the thing, though...

The Roman Collusseum (that's one of the few words I know of with NO standard spelling... weird) was in heavy, heavy use for 500 years... the only problem it had in its first century was that the arena floor was no longer watertight, so they couldn't stage the naval battles in the arena that they had before.

If, 2000 years ago, they could build a stadium that could last for half a millenium... why can't we build stadiums today that will last a century?

You are comparing two different stadiums designed in completely different styles using completely different materials...no comparison other than longevity and even that is misleading.

Simply won't be economically viable any more. You can dress it up all you want but it won't help the stadium. It is going to need a thorough overhaul just to keep it up to near modern(10 years ago) standards. You guys bash Yankee Stadium for it's renovations, yet it will take a renovation even more challenging and controversial to keep Fenway open. It's borderline hypocritical.

It'll last 100 years, only has 7 more to reach the century mark. Odds are it will last up to 110 years but I don't believe it will hold out for much longer.

[ElHalo]

You are comparing two different stadiums designed in completely different styles using completely different materials...no comparison other than longevity and even that is misleading.

Well, sure, completely different styles and materials... but if two thousand years ago they could build a stadium with working plumbing and concessions that could last for 500 years as a stadium (and much, much longer as a monument), it just kind of bothers me that we can't do the same in our modern world.

Simply won't be economically viable any more. You can dress it up all you want but it won't help the stadium. It is going to need a thorough overhaul just to keep it up to near modern(10 years ago) standards. You guys bash Yankee Stadium for it's renovations, yet it will take a renovation even more challenging and controversial to keep Fenway open. It's borderline hypocritical.

Hypocritical? What on Earth are you talking about? I quite literally have no idea where you're going with that. People "bash" the 70's Yankee Stadium renovations for two reasons... they got rid of the support beams in an effort to create better sight lines (but just ended up making the place lose character), and they got rid of the facade. What on Earth do those two things have to do with any potential renovation of Fenway?

And, just as an aside... chill. Nobody was jumping down your throat about anything before. I don't see one iota of a hostile remark that would lead you to get all defensive and "make things personal." Nobody said anything that would require you to call them "jerks."