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  • #91
    Originally posted by RichardLillard1
    I don't want to start a fight on here but I am curious as to how you see the current Yankee Stadium as a cookie cutter?
    There's nothing that stands out. I can go to a ballpark like Fenway and see the green monster, see the brick wall facade, walk on Yawkey way. Or Wrigley with the busch wall. Hell even the Rogers Centre has that hotel, but I'm not implying that Rogers Centre > Yankee Stadium because Yankee Stadium is definately much more mystique than Rogers Centre, plus Yankee Stadium doesn't have a stupid retractable roof. But anyways, my point is I go to the New York stadiums, which I have been to both and all I see is either an orange or a blue bowl. Yes, the mystique of Yankee Stadium makes it what it is, but aren't we overrating the overall uniqueness of the place because of that? I just think so judging by seeing it in person, watching a ballgame. To be honest, even as a Red Sox fan, I was rather disappointed about it. I just hope the new one isn't a cookie cutter either.

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    • #92
      Originally posted by Knick9
      To put it in the kindest way that I can...your case has no leverage at all. Even so when Yankee Stadium was renovated in the 1970's, I don't think that it was ever a cookie cutter.
      Prove your statement and just because the majority of the public thinks Yankee Stadium isn't a cookie cutter stadium doesn't mean that it's true. You shouldn't appeal to popularity when you prove your case is all I'm saying.

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      • #93
        Originally posted by winningtheweapon
        Prove your statement and just because the majority of the public thinks Yankee Stadium isn't a cookie cutter stadium doesn't mean that it's true. You shouldn't appeal to popularity when you prove your case is all I'm saying.
        The term cookie-cutter was given to the multi-purpose stadium of the 60s and 70s because of their identical circular shape and very similar exterior and interior designs. Yankee Stadium's shape, layout and tri-deck design were revolutionary when constructed, and its overhead profile is among the most unique and recognizable of any stadium in the world. The fact is that it was and is the very antithesis of the term cookie-cutter.

        To call Yankee Stadium a cookie-cutter is like calling Rosie O'Donnell anorexic, or calling the Tampa Bay Devil Rays the most successful franchise in pro-sports history - it makes absolutely no sense.

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        • #94
          Ready for 2009

          I'm looking forward to the new stadium. The "historic" part of Yankee stadium was gutted in the remodelling. The new one will be closer to historic yankee stadium then what is used now. Happy to see the roof w/ the facade back. Wish they had the upper deck closer to the playing field (i.e., cantilevered) but all things considered, this is a good move. Plus, some elbow room when you go get a hot dog will be a welcome change.

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          • #95
            Originally posted by Elvis
            The term cookie-cutter was given to the multi-purpose stadium of the 60s and 70s because of their identical circular shape and very similar exterior and interior designs. Yankee Stadium's shape, layout and tri-deck design were revolutionary when constructed, and its overhead profile is among the most unique and recognizable of any stadium in the world. The fact is that it was and is the very antithesis of the term cookie-cutter.

            To call Yankee Stadium a cookie-cutter is like calling Rosie O'Donnell anorexic, or calling the Tampa Bay Devil Rays the most successful franchise in pro-sports history - it makes absolutely no sense.

            They took a non-cookie cutter layout and tried their hardest ot make it into one.

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            • #96
              Originally posted by RichardLillard1
              I have posted this before, but I'll do it again to show my ideal Yankee Stadium. First of all I would love to keep the original stadium.

              However if I had to design a new one I would use the same idea as my ideal renovation for the Stadium.

              It would have the same shape as far as the grandstands(you would see no difference between how far close the upper deck is in the new and old). But I would add things like this new Great Hall and the Grand Staircase outside.

              There would also be a roof now supported by columns much like US Cellular and with some posts going all the way through to the lower bowl.

              I would also bring back Death Valley.


              By and alrge I like this idea, but why would you want columns obstructing views in the upper deck. The columns are a necessary evil, but if you can avoid them, why wouldn't you?

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              • #97
                Originally posted by Elvis
                The term cookie-cutter was given to the multi-purpose stadium of the 60s and 70s because of their identical circular shape and very similar exterior and interior designs. Yankee Stadium's shape, layout and tri-deck design were revolutionary when constructed, and its overhead profile is among the most unique and recognizable of any stadium in the world. The fact is that it was and is the very antithesis of the term cookie-cutter.

                To call Yankee Stadium a cookie-cutter is like calling Rosie O'Donnell anorexic, or calling the Tampa Bay Devil Rays the most successful franchise in pro-sports history - it makes absolutely no sense.
                Yeah, people recognize it because it says "YANKEE STADIUM" on the outside. Give me one thing that makes Yankee Stadium unique in its own right? It looks like an ordinary blue bowl to me. Again, as I've stated before I do think people use the stadium's history as a way to overrate the overall uniqueness of the actual stadium design itself.

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                • #98
                  Originally posted by cadam
                  I'm looking forward to the new stadium. The "historic" part of Yankee stadium was gutted in the remodelling. The new one will be closer to historic yankee stadium then what is used now. Happy to see the roof w/ the facade back. Wish they had the upper deck closer to the playing field (i.e., cantilevered) but all things considered, this is a good move. Plus, some elbow room when you go get a hot dog will be a welcome change.
                  Bringing back "death valley" would be an improvement.

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                  • #99
                    Originally posted by winningtheweapon
                    Yeah, people recognize it because it says "YANKEE STADIUM" on the outside. Give me one thing that makes Yankee Stadium unique in its own right? It looks like an ordinary blue bowl to me.
                    I already explained it. No other stadium in the world, past or present has the shape, layout, profile and design of Yankee Stadium. What part of that don't you get? The term "cookie-cutter" refers to the generic shape/layout of a stadium. If a stadium is unique, as Yankee Stadium is, than it is the antithesis of generic. What other stadium's profile looks like this?

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                    • Originally posted by Elvis
                      I already explained it. No other stadium in the world, past or present has the shape, layout, profile and design of Yankee Stadium. What part of that don't you get? The term "cookie-cutter" refers to the generic shape/layout of a stadium. If a stadium is unique, as Yankee Stadium is, than it is the antithesis of generic. What other stadium's profile looks like this?



                      U.S. Cellular Field has a few characteristics it's sharing with Yankee Stadium.



                      Shea Stadium, not as much, but it does remind me of the blue bowl layout of Yankee Stadium with its orange bowl design.

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                      • not even close, shea which looks nothing like a seating bowl, can be compared more to tropicana than yankee stadium!

                        and CHW's seating behind homeplate reminds me of SEA's
                        Last edited by JordanDL3891; 01-31-2007, 05:16 PM.
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                        • Originally posted by winningtheweapon


                          U.S. Cellular Field has a few characteristics it's sharing with Yankee Stadium.



                          Shea Stadium, not as much, but it does remind me of the blue bowl layout of Yankee Stadium with its orange bowl design.

                          US Cellular looks a lot like NEW yankee stadium. That seems to be what the complaints are about. Besides the seats being blue (which most are not anymore at US Cell), what else does it have in common with current YS? US Cell has almost no overhang. No 3 distinctive decks. The term seating "bowl" shouldn't even be used when talking about Yankee Stadium. A seating "bowl" is when there is one basic slope of seats from front to back. Like LA Coliseum. New Yankee has more of a "Bowl" shape than current YS. And comparing it to Shea? I don't get that at all.

                          As has been discussed, the current YS was not "torn down and rebuilt" as a lot of people say. To oversimplify, the work that was done in the '70s renovation was to lower the field 8 feet, add some rows to the front of the box seats, remove the facade, shorten the roof, add 15 rows to the back of the upper deck and remove the poles. The internal structure is EXACTLY the same as it was in 1923. As are the external walls. Painted, but the same walls. Compare old pictures.

                          So if you say current YS looks like a cookie cutter, than you're saying old YS was a cookie cutter.

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                          • Originally posted by winningtheweapon
                            Prove your statement and just because the majority of the public thinks Yankee Stadium isn't a cookie cutter stadium doesn't mean that it's true. You shouldn't appeal to popularity when you prove your case is all I'm saying.
                            That's pretty harsh, don't you think?

                            The term cookie-cutter didn't come out until after the ballparks of the 60's or 70's were made. Come on now.
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                            • Originally posted by J25nadroj2042
                              not even close, shea which looks nothing like a seating bowl, can be compared more to tropicana than yankee stadium!

                              and CHW's seating behind homeplate reminds me of SEA's
                              No?



                              How does this look anything like Shea?

                              The Cell's blue seating does remind me of Yankee Stadium.

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                              • Originally posted by spiderico
                                US Cellular looks a lot like NEW yankee stadium. That seems to be what the complaints are about. Besides the seats being blue (which most are not anymore at US Cell), what else does it have in common with current YS? US Cell has almost no overhang. No 3 distinctive decks. The term seating "bowl" shouldn't even be used when talking about Yankee Stadium. A seating "bowl" is when there is one basic slope of seats from front to back. Like LA Coliseum. New Yankee has more of a "Bowl" shape than current YS. And comparing it to Shea? I don't get that at all.

                                As has been discussed, the current YS was not "torn down and rebuilt" as a lot of people say. To oversimplify, the work that was done in the '70s renovation was to lower the field 8 feet, add some rows to the front of the box seats, remove the facade, shorten the roof, add 15 rows to the back of the upper deck and remove the poles. The internal structure is EXACTLY the same as it was in 1923. As are the external walls. Painted, but the same walls. Compare old pictures.

                                So if you say current YS looks like a cookie cutter, than you're saying old YS was a cookie cutter.
                                Yeah, those changes destroyed any uniqueness that place had. I can't believe they got rid of "death valley."

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