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    Heyde Cruz puts a new coat of blue on some seats at Tropicana Field. During the work, 35,000 seats will be scrubbed and repainted. The Rays plan to spend about $10-million fixing up the stadium.

    ST. PETERSBURG - The rebuilding Tampa Bay Devil Rays can't guarantee they'll have a winning record in 2006. But the team is promising that fans will see other improvements at Tropicana Field next season, including an exterior paint job and nicer restrooms.

    It is all part of a roughly $10-million renovation, the most extensive work to be done at the stadium since the Rays' inaugural 1998 season.

    Better yet for the city of St. Petersburg, the Rays will pay for the improvements. Local taxpayers shelled out more than $60-million to prepare the ballpark for the start of the '98 season.

    The goal of the renovations is to make the much-maligned Trop a more pleasant place to see a ballgame, Rays president Matt Silverman said Thursday.

    "We're going to welcome in more than a million fans next year and it's our job to deliver upon an experience that will make them want to come back for more," Silverman said.

    The renovations will include major overhauls to the interiors of the premium Kane's Club seating area behind home plate, luxury suites and the soon-to-be-renamed Platinum Club along the first-base line on the 200 level. Four rows of seats will be removed in front of the latter and retractable glass doors will be installed along most of the club's viewing area into the ballpark to give it a more open feel.

    But most of the other renovations will focus on less drastic cosmetic improvements. The Trop's grayish green exterior will be repainted, although the shade hasn't been chosen. Outdoor awnings will be added and new directional banners will be installed in the parking lot, parts of which will be repaved.

    Inside the stadium, 35,000 seats will be scrubbed and repainted. Painted cinder-block walls on the 100 and 200 levels will be covered with stucco or drywall. Restrooms on the first two levels will be outfitted with new sinks and better lighting.

    "We think of this place as our home," Silverman said. "When you invite guests to your home, you start with the basics, making sure it's clean and comfortable."

    Silverman is coordinating the renovations with Rick Nafe, the Rays' vice president of operations/facilities and Ana Rabelo Wallrapp, an architect with Wannemacher Russell Architects of St. Petersburg.

    Work began shortly after Thanksgiving, and is expected to be completed by the end of March.

    "This is easily a one-year project that's going to be condensed into . . . months," Nafe said.

    The Rays are considering installing a new sound system and even a large tank of live rays. Improvements being considered include a new scoreboard and large decorative murals along the stadium's exterior. Silverman said the team could end up spending $10-million on more renovations over the next several years.

    The Trop and the Metrodome in Minneapolis are the only dome stadiums in Major League Baseball that don't have a retractable roof. One aim of later improvements will be to try to create an "outdoor feel" in the stadium as much as possible, Nafe said. "We're just out to make it one of the more fun ballparks to come to," he said.

    http://www.sptimes.com/2005/12/16/Bu...top_Trop.shtml
    Unlike most other team sports, in which teams usually have an equivalent number of players on the field at any given time, in baseball the hitting team is at a numerical disadvantage, with a maximum of 5 players and 2 base coaches on the field at any time, compared to the fielding team's 9 players. For this reason, leaving the dugout to join a fight is generally considered acceptable in that it results in numerical equivalence on the field, and a fairer fight.

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    Their renovations won't be successful unless the stadium can get rid of it's cavern-like feel. A new shade of paint may do it, but I hope the team can get some new lighting eventually to make the field look less dreary and tiresome.
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    • #3
      I wish Oriole Pak At Camden yards would get a renovation. Like add extended upper level and club level over add more seats.

      See the Upper level next to tower? Why not extend it all the way over to scoreboard and club level too?

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      • #4
        Originally posted by steveox
        I wish Oriole Pak At Camden yards would get a renovation. Like add extended upper level and club level over add more seats.

        See the Upper level next to tower? Why not extend it all the way over to scoreboard and club level too?
        I don't think the Orioles need MORE seats. OPACY is big enough to draw decent attenance. What the Orioles need to do is give their fans more of a reason to come out to the ballpark again. Then there will be fewer people cheering for the visitors when the Yanks and Bosox come to town.

        Besides, extending the upper deck as you suggest would completely cut off any view of downtown Baltimore.

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        • #5
          Yeah, but they should really re-do the turf.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by efin98
            Their renovations won't be successful unless the stadium can get rid of it's cavern-like feel. A new shade of paint may do it, but I hope the team can get some new lighting eventually to make the field look less dreary and tiresome.
            I kid you not, after the Marlins leave and after what happens to the Twins and A's, I can only keep thinking in my mind "the Rays are gonna get it...", regardless of new ownership that says they would change the name of the team but they then say "not right now...it's not our top priority." Well, it's already December and the name's the same, I guess they backtracked on that statement.

            To get on topic, I think numerous renovations to the Trop just isn't going to do it. The Trop, just like the article said, is one of the only two domes left in MLB along with the Metrodome, but even then the Twins are wanting a new stadium, so the Rays are going to be put into a corner stadium-wise. Furthermore, though I like stingrays, the Trop always looks dreary and tiresome to me no matter what tactic is used.
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            • #7
              Suppose the Orioles do wind up in the world series.Then im SOL getting tickets and if i buy tickets from a scalper it might be an undercover PIG! Thats why they need more seats.

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              • #8
                The Rays onwership should save it's money for a new stadium.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by steveox
                  Suppose the Orioles do wind up in the world series.Then im SOL getting tickets and if i buy tickets from a scalper it might be an undercover PIG! Thats why they need more seats.
                  first off, as a general comment, I'm astonished how people are able to turn every single thread into something about their home team / park. It's pretty incredible.

                  Second, 45,000+ seats is already pretty large, and for the game I was at last summer, it wasn't more than 1/4 full on a beautiful day. Why should the Orioles spend 10-20 million renovating a park to both make it uglier and more expensive to keep clean without getting any new revenue in? I mean, by that logic, Cleveland Memorial Stadium and the LA Coliseum were the best parks in baseball history since they were so huge.

                  Trust me, you don't want Camden to change, it's too nice. As for the Trop, MLB has mandated a move for the Devil Rays if they're not out of that monstrosity by 2010, so it looks like Florida may have 0 teams really soon. And, frankly, that's fine by me. Maybe the owners should spend the $10m on pitching so people have a reason to go to the park in the first place.
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                  • #10
                    You realize theyre 60,000 seats at yankee stadium? 60,000!! So everyone could get world series tickets.If lawmakers would just drop the scalping laws people could go to the world series without have to buy season tickets.

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                    • #11
                      Yankee Stadium was built in the same era as Cleveland's Mistake by the Lake. Yankee Stadium only looks good because of its two year renovation.
                      Unlike most other team sports, in which teams usually have an equivalent number of players on the field at any given time, in baseball the hitting team is at a numerical disadvantage, with a maximum of 5 players and 2 base coaches on the field at any time, compared to the fielding team's 9 players. For this reason, leaving the dugout to join a fight is generally considered acceptable in that it results in numerical equivalence on the field, and a fairer fight.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by nascarfn5
                        Yankee Stadium was built in the same era as Cleveland's Mistake by the Lake. Yankee Stadium only looks good because of its two year renovation.
                        Steve- Have you ever heard of the site stubhub.com? I've purchased and sold tickets on that site a number of times without incident, so it's not like there's some draconian police state keeping you from purchasing tickets. You are trying to say that a park should be built solely for the world series games. Let's look at Yankee Stadium since the renovation for a comparison.

                        The Yankees have been in 10 world series since the renovation, meaning there have been 30-40 World Series games played at Yankee Stadium. it has seen 29 years of baseball, or 2460 games. So, the number of world series games for the Yankees, who have made it more than any team, is still at 1.4% of the regular season games played at the park. This alone shows that you shouldn't build just for the world series. Now, let's look at average attendance.

                        The Yankees averaged 50,499 people to their 55,000 seat park, or 87.9% full. Baltimore, meanwhile, averaged 32,404 people, or 67.2% full. The yankees are able to fill almost all of their stadium regularly, while the Orioles almost never do. In fact, most of the sellouts were probably for the Red Sox series, when Boston fans fly down to see their team.

                        I don't know why I wasted all this time, but I hope you at least see why your argument just doesn't make sense logically or monetarily. Camden is great, you don't want it changed. And if you want it expanded, tell your fellow fans to actually go out to the games.
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                        • #13
                          stubhub.com dont they charge you a fee? Were the only nation that pass stupid insane laws passed by liberals.I bet over in england or in australia or even in japan you dont have undercover police trapping you when try to buy a ticket from a sold out major event from a scalper.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Knick9
                            The Trop, just like the article said, is one of the only two domes left in MLB along with the Metrodome...
                            There are plenty more domed stadiums in MLB than that, unless you believe retractable roofed stadiums like Minute Maid Park don't count.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by steveox
                              stubhub.com dont they charge you a fee? Were the only nation that pass stupid insane laws passed by liberals.I bet over in england or in australia or even in japan you dont have undercover police trapping you when try to buy a ticket from a sold out major event from a scalper.

                              You're such an idiot it's not even worth talking with you. You go be a victim and cry about how terrible your life is, meanwhile us adults will continue with our lives. Maybe some day you'll learn about corporations and why these laws exist, but until then, you keep living in your idiot dream world.
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