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  • Baseball artwork help??

    Hey all,

    I'm new to the forum as a poster, but certainly an old lurker.

    I was interested in knowing whether any of you had any rare or odd pictures of any of the historic MLB ballparks that you all grew up with - especially ones which clearly depict outfield advertisements. I am especially interested in images of the Harry M. Stevens panoramic stadium shots that were auctioned off by Lelands in 1996. These photographs were used to demonstrate to advertisers the state of their scoreboard ads for a given year. The image clarity of these photos is astonishing, as they were produced from glass plate negatives. The dates depicted ranged from 1934 to 1956 I believe, and many of the MLB ballparks were depicted, including: Yankee Stadium, the Polo Grounds, Ebbets Field, Fenway, and Braves Field.

    Some of these panoramics made their way onto ebay at some point, and I managed to get my hands on shots of Yankee Stadium from 1936 and 1947. It was immediately after that I sold them back to collectors. Why did I do this you may ask?

    I am an artist who specializes in painting vintage baseball scenes, most of which lie in the first half of the 20th century. Being a stickler for historical accuracy, these kinds photos are invaluable resources for my work - as they provide the exact look of stadium advertisement signs from each particular year. Though many photos exist of stadiums from these eras (especially to be found on Corbis and Getty Images), it's harder to find reliable resources in regards to the stadiums from the 1930s and 1940s - which incidentally is my favorite period to depict.

    I am not into the collectibility aspect of them, as I make high quality photocopies of the images to keep for myself. What I ask of you fellows, is whether you own or have access to photographs such as these. I wouldn't necessarily be interested in buying any of them per se, but would most certainly love to arrange for high quality scans/photocopies of the panoramics to be made if anyone was willing to do so. I would certainly pay for the time spent, and if desired, would be happy to provide prints of my artwork for compensation.

    I have enclosed a scan of one of the Harry M. Stevens photographs I speak of, as well as two examples of my artwork. If anyone can help out in anyway, please feel free to contact me via email/PM/phone/smoke signal.

    Graig
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  • #2
    Those are some great pictures. You're a great artist.
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    • #3
      Dudes really got his light/contrast down. Pretty kickass. If I had the moolah, I'd commission a few pieces. Maybe an Eddie Gaedel at bat or a BoSox era Ruth.

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      • #4
        Thanks for the compliments, guys. I really appreciate the fact that you took the time to check out the post, as well as reply. Hopefully one day, I can get some more of these paintings done; though with student teaching in full swing, I find it tougher to touch a brush every single day!!
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        • #5
          Originally posted by Philmore
          Thanks for the compliments, guys. I really appreciate the fact that you took the time to check out the post, as well as reply. Hopefully one day, I can get some more of these paintings done; though with student teaching in full swing, I find it tougher to touch a brush every single day!!
          Student teachign? Good man. I'm a fifth grade teacher in my first contract year. Good luck to you.


          Once I get some school and other bills paid off, I may be interested in some pictures.
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          • #6
            Sickle,

            I never knew how much work it would be!! It's amazing to think that you guys can do this every single day. Of course, I'm still in my beginning stages, so it's all rather new and overwhelming - but jeez. I gave my first two lessons yesterday, and will be observed for the first time on Monday. Can anyone say 'butterflies'? Hopefully it all goes well, and in the end, I like the profession.

            If not, I guess it's back to the easel...
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            • #7
              philmore, the first painting shared seems to me to be a recall of the photograph -- a beautiful product of what someone would paint (if the talent was there) -- by way of memory.

              i take that the images not lining up exactly is by design, and that the feeling of the ballyard is more important to you than the physical detail.

              many thanx for letting us see your stuff, man. very much appreciated.
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              • #8
                Actually, the Mantle image was done directly from a photograph, so I didn't necessarily use the panoramic for inspiration. However, shots like the one from 1947 certainly motivate me while I make other images that are less photo-based. These are awfully hard to put together, as they're a combination of resources; but sometimes the end result is very satisfactory (or at least, to me).

                It's amazing how much I rely on photography for the look of these old ballparks and such, and the details of advertisements and all is incredibly important!!
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                • #9
                  Wow Philmore, that is great stuff. Paint me as one of your admirers here. Keep us posted on when you are ready to be commissioned.
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                  • #10
                    Keep me posted on your teaching, my man. I'd be more than willing to offer up some advice, as well (I mean, I'm fairly new, too, but I have some student teaching experiences, two years of subbing, and my first year full of stories that I can help you with). Let me know in here, and I can give you my email or screen name and we can chat.

                    Keep up the art, too. It will be a nice stress release after long weeks.


                    Now, if only the rest of the population could spend a day as a teacher and see how much dedication and hard work it takes ....

                    It's definitely rewarding, though.
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                    • #11
                      Thanks for the warm comments all. I hope that soon I will be able to continue my work, though it seems that my window of free times gets smaller with each passing day. I am trying to work on another painting for Bill Goff and goodsportsart.com, a panoramic of the new Philadelphia ballpark. It's unfortunate that right now, I can't dedicate to it the time it deserves.

                      In response to your message Sickle, let's just say that student teaching is certainly tough. I took over two 6th grade classes a week and a half ago, and it's amazing how different they are from one another. The first is right before lunch, and oddly enough, they're completely out of control. They're a few great kids in the class, and it's rather small at only 17 students. However, there are 2 - 3 who are very talkative and have a hard time focusing. They're certainly challenging all of the classroom management skills that I have learned thus far in grad school (which have actually been none whatsoever). Granted, there should be socialization in an art class (in my opinion), but sometimes, these kids take that a little too far.

                      The next one is right after lunch, and they're absolutely wonderful - which is amazing to think because it's rather large, at almost 25. They're some very gifted kids in the group, and they all seem to gel very well together. With that in mind, I am taking over the next period class (7th grade) in a week and a half, and being observed the Monday after next. The supervisor is actually coming to see the first 6th grade class, and I'm a bit worried that the class will be a bit rowdy.

                      So, overall, I'm losing my mind!!

                      How do you guys do it????
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                      • #12
                        Excellent work!

                        Hello Philmore!

                        Your work is on par with the greats like Jurinko, Pudom, and Feldman! Hail to our next generation of Ballpark Realist painters! Please count me in as a devoted fan of your work now, and in the future!!

                        Sincerely,

                        Dennis

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                        • #13
                          Dennis,

                          Thank you so much for the kind comments - they're some of the nicest I have ever heard! I have been a fan of those guys for a while, and I truly hope that the work I do brings back the same kinds of emotions that theirs can.

                          Hopefully, once I get some free time, I can back to the other images I've started - of which they're too many. It's annoying to come into the basement, sit on computer and do schoolwork, while Carl Hubbel, Jimmie Foxx, Jackie Robinson, Ted Williams, and a slew of others stare me in the face, and politely request to be finished.

                          Though either way, thank you so much for your words...

                          Graig
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                          • #14
                            Hey all...

                            Finally got a scan back for the Ortiz image I did for Bill Goff and goodsportsart.com. I figured some of you might be interested in seeing it.

                            It's unfortunate that I had to paint this image, as my house is filled with Yankee fans (including myself). Though, I think it was certainly the most important moment of the 2004 ALCS, if not the playoffs. This is when everything changed for Boston...

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                            • #15
                              Excellent work Phil. Just outstanding.
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