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This document was based on a similar policy used by SABR.

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  • Nice shot from 1981 from Jersey 1. The original facade between the ramps is starting to show itself again in the demo thread.

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    • Originally posted by IPO View Post
      You mean it was part of the negotiated ripoff to build this fiasco. Some articles (not all) claim Taxpayer Fredo Field is now completely owned (rent/tax/parking) free for the first time ever by Fredo Wilpon.

      Since when have I written I expect the Mets to always have good cheap seats ten minutes before the first pitch? The sham ballpark for the greedy and entitled was built for the corporate fan, the Jeff Wilpon, Madoff kind of people.

      If you really think Shea is being demolished or Fredo Field is being built for the long-time average fans the joke is on you.

      Guess you have not figured this out yet.
      You sure are negative - how do I enable "Ignore"?


      • Originally posted by Ralf View Post
        He IS in my ignore list and has been for some time. The problem is when others quote him, I'm basically forced to read it.
        I'm tired of his act. Its futile. Shea is being torn down. Get over it.
        Can you please ignore me already?

        I do not agree with with the demolition of Shea, get over it and do not take it so personally unless you work for Fredo or are one of his relatives.

        If you are one of his relatives or corporate flunkies, too damn bad. Disgrace Shea is being demolished.

        I only hope Fredo or Jeff humiliate themselves enough at the hearings for more public funds for Taxpayerfield that NYC decides to slap a stop work order on Shea and leave it standing as is right on his doorstep. Fredo has his Ebbets field fantasy, I now have mine.

        They can pay for free agents, pay for this fiasco to the tune of about five billion long-term.
        Last edited by IPO; 01-04-2009, 09:32 AM.


        • Originally posted by OffTheTable65 View Post
          Amazing shots, Dan.

          Looks like some of the falling concrete tugged on the blue siding at the top of the stadium, exposing a hint of how it looked in 1986 and in prior years...with the vertical cable columns above the various entrances.

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          • Just a curious question, when did Shea go to all blue? It was beige before my time, so I was just wondering when it became how I always knew it to be.
            "You're killin' me Smalls!"


            • Originally posted by RichardK View Post
              I have seen video of some large demos where they did not use explosives and they weakened all the load bearing beams at the bottom and a few up higher, and then they use one of the larger peices of equipment to tug at it and the whole thing collapses to the ground, where they then go to town crunching it to smaller peices like they have with the non load bearing seating areas that are already gone.

              I have a feeling they are going to do this with Shea, one section at a time. Which by the way, from what I can see, there are four "free standing" sections divided by the expansion joints, which means the rest of the stadium is structually sound even with a large section of it missing.

              From what we have seen so far, they have stopped removing canopy at the expansion joint so I would not be suprised if they use the above method to bring down that section before they go on to the rest.

              So we may end up seeing Shea go in four stages, section by section.

              Great shots btw.

              This is exactly how they dismantled the Orange Bowl. They also had asbestos issues. They first removed the seats, signs, and other mementos for public sale, then the sod and light towers for other city use, then the asbestos before the concrete and steel (which was all recycled-- the steel mainly used to make manhole covers, the concrete for new road paving) could begin to be pounded by the wrecking ball. Once the steel skeleton was all that was left, the joints and beams were all either cut or loosened. They then used cables to pull each section down, like how the Shea scoreboard was taken down. Debris was carted away as it came down, with the removal equipment and operation increasing as more stadium was knocked down.

              You can catch an entire show on the Orange Bowl demolition on the Nat Geo Channel. I think the program was called "Taking It Down", or someething like that. It was a great show.


              • Originally posted by LINYUSA View Post
                You sure are negative - how do I enable "Ignore"?
                Sorry, nothing positive comes from this.


                • Originally posted by LINYUSA View Post
                  What you are not considering is that Shea is right on the water and Dodger Stadium is not close to a body of water. Having lived for many years in Southern California, I can attest that all structures there are in much better shape then similar structures here in the Northeast. I would not minimize the effect harsh winters have on a stadium. Further, Dodger Stadium is built into a hill - it is not a stand alone struture like Shea.
                  I am well aware of Sheas location, and I am also aware that Dodger Stadium is built into a hill.
                  But since I was responding to a post that claimed it is "much EASIER for DODGER STADIUM to keep up its APPEARANCE DUE TO the fact that it doesn't have to sit through SNOW and ICE", I decided to address that specific comment.
                  Dodger Stadium and Kaufman Stadium have been maintained. Shea, Veterans and the Orange Bowl were not.


                  • Originally posted by kingcohn92 View Post
                    I made a quick timelapse video of all of the pictures taken by gary, dan, richie and everyone from the train station vantage point.
                    I'm uploading it to youtube right now and ill post the link when its finished processing.
                    HERE'S THE LINK:


                    • Originally posted by metsforever7515 View Post
                      Just a curious question, when did Shea go to all blue? It was beige before my time, so I was just wondering when it became how I always knew it to be.
                      80's renovation.


                      • Nice pano from Rick Brandt on Flickr, Sept. 2008 (Alert - wide photo, but not too big a file).

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                        • Originally posted by kingcohn92 View Post
                          Not bad, King!

                          You should add ....TO BE CONTINUED........... at the end of it.



                          • Camera Day, 1970 from Jersey 1. Ken Singleton, Donn Clendenon, Rich Folkers, Duffy Dyer. Love the WS flag!

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                            • The snow and ice alone are not what cause car chassis to rust and steel structures to deteriorate. It's the salt spray from either road salt or seaside ocean spray.


                              • Originally posted by LINYUSA View Post
                                You sure are negative - how do I enable "Ignore"?
                                Youre going to have to figure it out on your own since you obviously cannot read. Read prior posts about quoting idiots that people want to ignore. You want to ignore someone but you still force all of us to read his jibberish? Wow.

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