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  • Originally posted by mets16 View Post
    you don't understand, do you? These SEATS were installed in 1980. The frames have been there since 1964... sheesh
    When I say "seats", I am referring to the metal frames. As I said in a previous post, you do not paint plastic!
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    • Paul W. neat photos of the press room.

      I have heard that story a number of times about the chiller. I may be wrong about the press room it may have been visitor locker room. I will try to find out.

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      • Original Wood Shea Stadium Seat

        For those who seem to doubt my seat knowledge for whatever reason, here is a photo of an ORIGINAL, wooden, box seat from the field level of Shea Stadium. In all my years of collecting stadium seats, this is the ONLY seat I have ever come across that looks to be in ALL original condition & not repainted since it's Shea Stadium days. Being only the wooden seat parts were removed from Shea seats in 1980 (& NOT offered/sold to the public) .... finding another seat like this one is next to impossible these days. I've come across one or two other wooden Shea seats over the years, but those HAD been restored/repainted.
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        • Originally posted by RichieA13 View Post
          Agreed! Here's a shot of my boy at his first game ever last season (8/26/07 vs. L.A.). Notice the obvious neglect of these seats, especially on the armrests & underneath, too. We were sitting in Section 17 on the Loge in the last row. While these seats are not exposed to the elements from above. the metal fence behind the section allows the elements in from the backside. So, humidity, fog, wind are able to attack these seats from behind. As I said before .... anyone want to hazzard a guess how many times these seats have been painted since 1964? I'd doubt more than twice, personally!
          That hot dog looks disgusting..

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          • RichieA13 that is a nice picture. It looks in good shape. Why did they replace the seats? Was the wood rotting?

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            • Originally posted by DWright5 View Post
              That hot dog looks disgusting..
              I thought that too when I first saw the picture, but then I realized that it's probably a hamburger.

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              • Originally posted by nymdan View Post
                I thought that too when I first saw the picture, but then I realized that it's probably a hamburger.

                It WAS a burger, guys! (LL!). I would NEVER feed my son a hot dog that was grey!!

                Anyway, as to Mary Ellen's question "Why did they replace the seats? Was the wood rotting?" ....... I think the reason "why" is because Nelson Doubleday's company bought (or was buying) the Mets in 1980. Soon after, Shea started getting a sprucing up, including replacing the 55,000 wooden seats, circa 1964. As you can see in the seat in the photo .... the seats were getting a bit weathered by this time. It's my guess that, at most, this seat (& his 55,000 cousins) was repainted only once in 15 years! I wouldn't call these seats "rotting", but they were fairly worn & weathered. The new plastic seat parts installed in 1980 were manufactured by American Seating Company in Michigan. These plastic seats had been around for at least a decade or so in countless other ballparks (including renovated Yankee Stadium since 1976). This newer plastic seats eventually led to the demise of wooden ballpark seats forever. Plastic seats are easier to wash down after games, never need to be painted/repainted, are almost as durable as wood & can last two to three decades in most cases. The only real negetive on plastic seats is that they can oxidize in sections of the ballpark where the sun is strong & then they look awful. Wooden stadium seats can splinter & need to be repainted every few years or else they start looking ratty & then eventually need to be replaced.
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                • Originally posted by Paul W View Post
                  here's the press room...
                  When my uncle used to work at Shea, that used to be my favorite room besides the kitchen in the whole Stadium. Nice find.
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                  • Hope this wasn't posted.......



                    Amazing outfield design!!
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                    • Get ready guys, some SWEET (and clearly historic) shots from flickr that ancrman found in his basement!!







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                      • Come October, a classically original New York City baseball stadium will shut its gates for the last time. For decades, it's played host to thousands of games, thrilling pennant races, countless Hall of Famers and World Series drama.

                        Yes, Shea Stadium, home of the New York Mets, where my father took me to my first game on Helmet Day in 1970 (Nolan Ryan started for the Mets in a 4-3 win over the Astros), is playing out its final season.

                        You thought maybe I meant that other stadium across town? No, you already knew that Yankee Stadium is also in its final season. You've been told about that over and over (and over) again. The violins and countless tributes to Yankee Stadium that began in April and reached a fever pitch during All-Star week will no doubt continue through the last out this fall. The never-ending theme: A classic original has its swan song.

                        The only problem is that Yankee Stadium is not a classic original. The building where Ruth, Gehrig, DiMaggio et al. became legends? It was wrecked in 1973. Contrary to the prevailing myth, Yankee Stadium went through more than a "face lift" back then. It was closer to a razing and rebuilding. Same name, same grounds--but the stadium isn't a classic in the vein of Fenway Park or Wrigley Field. It's more of a '70s monstrosity. And, like disco, it was outdated about five years after its 1976 debut.

                        Shea Stadium has had its share of tweaks over the years. But it's still the same building that opened in 1964, right next door to the grounds of the New York World's Fair. In fact, the Mets debut game there coincided with the day Ford unveiled the Mustang right next door.

                        For fans looking for a baseball museum, complete with bars up and down the neighboring block, Yankee Stadium is the place. But the essence of being a sports fan is going to a stadium to actually, you know, see the game--aesthetics be damned. And to have fun doing it. On that score, it's just no contest.

                        At Shea, fans chant "Let's Go, Mets." At Yankee Stadium, they give the Bronx cheer. Shea Stadium has had the wave; Yankee Stadium the one-finger salute. Shea Stadium has Mr. Met entertaining the kids and a red apple popping out of a hat after home runs. Yankee Stadium has liquored-up "bleacher creatures" performing an inane roll call of player names as the game is about to start.

                        Shea has four retired numbers on its left field wall: for Casey Stengel, the Mets' original manager; Gil Hodges, who died while still manager in 1972; Tom Seaver, the greatest player in franchise history; and for Jackie Robinson, whose number was permanently retired by Major League Baseball in 1997. I've lost count of how many retired numbers line Yankee Stadium's left field wall. At last check it was something like 1,800--one for every player who ever hit at least 0.260 in a season.

                        In a nutshell, Shea Stadium is fun; Yankee Stadium is stuffy. Setting the tone in the Bronx is veteran public address announcer Bob Sheppard, a.k.a. the voice of God. With all due respect to the renowned Mr. Sheppard, a Yankee Stadium fixture for over five decades who has been ill and on the sidelines this season, his ultra-serious baritone delivery never did much for me. Who wants the players introduced by Dudley Moore's butler in Arthur? Sheppard's opening remarks each night might as well go something like this:

                        "Good evening, ladies and gentlemen. Welcome to Yankee Stadium, the royal cathedral of sports, where we take our baseball very seriously. Talking is to be limited to a whisper. Anyone who fails to genuflect toward Monument Park at the end of each inning, as house rules require, will be ejected. And please note: No fun is allowed at any time."

                        Funny how Yankee Stadium was generally thought to be a dump in the early 1990s, when owner George Steinbrenner, threatening a move to New Jersey, constantly whined about narrow aisles, leaky pipes, a shortage of luxury suites and limited parking. The team stunk then too. But by 1996, when Joe Torre and Derek Jeter arrived to lead the Yankees back to championship glory, the stadium somehow became iconic.

                        Thanks, but I'll take Jerry Koosman jumping into his catcher's arms after the final game of the 1969 World Series, completing the Mets' journey from laughingstock to champions.

                        Tug McGraw fighting off the fans as he ran for the dugout after the final out of the 1973 playoff upset over the Reds, which sent the team to its second World Series in five years.

                        Tom Seaver mowing down opponents during the '70s, then coming back to a packed house as a Cincinnati Red in August of 1977 as loyal fans cheered his victory over his old (and their own) team. For one day, a message to management that dared trade Tom Terrific was more important than a win.

                        Shea is whooping it up with my father as 19-year-old phenom Dwight Gooden whiffs 12 Dodgers one night in 1984, the "K Corner" patrol in the left field upper deck acknowledging each one with a sign. Plate umpire Doug Harvey, normally as staid as they come, got so into the atmosphere that night that he took to ringing up Dodger hitters with more and more dramatic flair as the game progressed, sending the crowd into frenzy.

                        Shea is Darryl Strawberry and Mike Piazza taking curtain calls after hitting bombs, and Jose Reyes clapping his hands after stretching a double into a triple. And, of course, the way the place shook when Ray Knight stomped on home plate with the winning run of the sixth game of the 1986 World Series, just moments after all seemed to be lost.

                        Meanwhile, dad and I are set to come full circle, with tickets in hand for the July 25 Mets-Cardinals game at Shea. It's our last one, 38 years after Helmet Day. The only drag will be the sight of Citi Field, the Mets' new state-of-the-art home that opens next season, just beyond the outfield fence; a sober reminder that an era has passed. Am I just being a sappy sentimentalist, ignoring the economic realities of 21st-century baseball? Well, of course. But I have no apologies. We're all entitled to mourn the passing of our youths.

                        Right now I tell people I'll never go to Citi Field, that my run ends when Shea closes down. Of course, I'll probably weaken eventually, especially because I've got a two-year-old son of my own. Citi Field is where he'll collect his memories. But I've already got mine. So thanks, Shea, it's been a great ride. You are a true original.
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                        • What a great article.

                          I did not know Shea debuted with the Mustang on the exact day! As a Mets fan it is strange to go to both Yankee Stadium & Fenway Park. At Fenway (I went to the see the Mets interleague last year) all they do is scream about how the Yankees suck. They were not even playing the Yankees.

                          The Yankees fans at the Stadium were chanting the Mets suck?!? Mets fans do that only when the opposing team is in the house.

                          I was very disappointed at the Allstar Game when the Yankees fans booed the Red Socks and Sarah Jessica Parker. For heaven's sake it is the all star game and the Socks won it for the AL. And Parker was raising money for cancer. It was embarassing for New York fans to act that way.

                          Maybe that is why so many Yankees fans with children appear at Shea for the Subway Series games.

                          I will take Shea (and its imperfect fans) any day. Just my 2 cents.

                          Ralph - was that article in Forbes?
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                          • Originally posted by Mary Ellen View Post
                            What a great article.

                            I did not know Shea debuted with the Mustang on the exact day! As a Mets fan it is strange to go to both Yankee Stadium & Fenway Park. At Fenway (I went to the see the Mets interleague last year) all they do is scream about how the Yankees suck. They were not even playing the Yankees.

                            The Yankees fans at the Stadium were chanting the Mets suck?!? Mets fans do that only when the opposing team is in the house.

                            I was very disappointed at the Allstar Game when the Yankees fans booed the Red Socks and Sarah Jessica Parker. For heaven's sake it is the all star game and the Socks won it for the AL. And Parker was raising money for cancer. It was embarassing for New York fans to act that way.

                            Maybe that is why so many Yankees fans with children appear at Shea for the Subway Series games.

                            I will take Shea (and its imperfect fans) any day. Just my 2 cents.

                            Ralph - was that article in Forbes?
                            Well said.

                            I believe it was just on Forbes online.

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                            • I notice that even some of these old pictures have the Budweiser bow tie in them. I thought Rheingold was the original beer at Shea.
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                              • NJ Jets during last Jet game at Shea

                                On Wikipedia someone posted the fact that for their last game at Shea the scoreboard operators listed the Jets as the "N.J. Jets"?

                                Is that true? If so, has anyone seen a photo of that?

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